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IntruderLS1

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I would like proof that homosexuals are at a greater risk of contracting AIDS/HIV, than hetrosexuals..

I haven't said anything in this thread that I too would like to see the proof...

From Center for Desese Control:

Fact Sheet: HIV/AIDS among Men Who Have Sex with Men | Resources | HIV/AIDS and Men Who Have Sex with Men (MSM) | Topics | CDC HIV/AIDS

CDC.gov said:
In the United States, HIV infection and AIDS have had a tremendous effect on men who have sex with men (MSM). MSM accounted for 71% of all HIV infections among male adults and adolescents in 2005 (based on data from 33 states with long-term, confidential name-based HIV reporting)​

Of those suffering AIDS:

- 67% get it from gay sexual contact
- 5% get it from a combination of gay sexual contact and drug use.
- 13% get it from doing drugs
- 15% get it from "High-risk herterosexual contact"
 

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That doesn't prove what I asked. It proves that AIDS is high in the homosexual population. It doesn't prove that AIDS is more likely to infect a homosexual than a hetrosexual.
 

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Did you read breath's article?
Yes I did. Look, it isn't fun to talk about, but ignoring facts in order to make people feel better is silly. Education is the key to fighting this enemy. We can't close our eyes to the primary source of spread and expect to defeat it. (And it DOES have to be defeated)

That doesn't prove what I asked. It proves that AIDS is high in the homosexual population. It doesn't prove that AIDS is more likely to infect a homosexual than a hetrosexual.

Okay, 71% of AIDS patients come from a societal cross section which ranges from 1-10% wide. I cannot answer your question any more completely than that. Perhaps you could tell me what 'kind' of proof you're looking for. Stats obviously isn't it. :shrug:
 

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I think people equate gay males as higher to contract AIDs because condoms are not made for anal use (read the box, it clearly says that they are not) and they break a lot during anal usage .. and that is how AIDS is transmitted the most .. because of the breaking of blood vessels and semen mixing together.

There are also a lot of gay males that have AIDS and either don't tell their partners or don't get tested and don't know .. and spread it. I know heterosexuals do as well .. but the statistics of who has it and their sexual orientation leans more towards the gay population as the higher risk category. All studies show that.

I have many gay (male) friends .. one of my best friends is gay actually. One of his BF's roomates has AIDS .. and he has lots of random sex at these "sex clubs" in ATL .. and he doesn't divulge his AIDS status. So who knows how many people he's infected .. and how many people each one of those people have unknowingly infected.

My friend and his BF tell as many as they can before he goes home with them, or into a "sex room" .. but they aren't with him 24/7, ya know. Really sad.

I'm sure that's not the only instance of it going on either.
 

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LOL .. if you don't have gay sex .. how are you actually gay? I don't know many "couples" straight or gay who don't have sex.
 

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LOL .. if you don't have gay sex .. how are you actually gay? I don't know many "couples" straight or gay who don't have sex.
lol. Being gay has to do with being attracted to men or women if you're a woman.. You can be gay all your life and not have gay sex.
 

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There are condoms designed for anal.
I just looked on google and saw none that said they were specifically for anal usage; just says to use a stronger or "thicker" condom. I know I've read the back of several brands of condoms .. and they all warn you to not use them for anal usage.

I've had this same discussion before. So I went to Walmart and read all the boxes.

What condoms should you use for anal intercourse?

With anal intercourse more strain is placed on the condom. You can use stronger condoms (which are thicker) but standard condoms are just as effective as long as they are used correctly with plenty of lubricant. Condoms with a lubricant containing Nonoxynol 9 should NOT be used for anal sex as Nonoxynol 9 damages the lining of the rectum increasing the risk of HIV and other STD transmission.
 

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lol. Being gay has to do with being attracted to men or women if you're a woman.. You can be gay all your life and not have gay sex.
um .. hello .. 2 girls licking each other .. is gay female sex.

And having not had sex is different than being in a relationship and not having sex. PT said not all gay men have anal intercourse .. so what kind of intercourse are they having then?
 

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I just looked on google and saw none that said they were specifically for anal usage; just says to use a stronger or "thicker" condom. I know I've read the back of several brands of condoms .. and they all warn you to not use them for anal usage.

I've had this same discussion before. So I went to Walmart and read all the boxes.
I just googled it too, and found a pretty good number of sites suggesting what lube and brands that could be used for safe anal.
 

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um .. hello .. 2 girls licking each other .. is gay female sex.

And having not had sex is different than being in a relationship and not having sex. PT said not all gay men have anal intercourse .. so what kind of intercourse are they having then?
no shit? :smiley24:


You don't need to have gay sex to be gay. All you need to be gay is to have a sexual attraction to the same gender as your own.
 

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lol .. whatever .. those are called gay tendencies .. until you experiment and determine/decide that you are in fact gay or were just curious .. you aren't officially considered "gay". I should know .. I've had a girlfriend and discovered it wasn't for me.
 

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lol .. whatever .. those are called gay tendencies .. until you experiment and determine/decide that you are in fact gay or were just curious .. you aren't officially considered "gay". I should know .. I've had a girlfriend and discovered it wasn't for me.
There's a major difference between being "bi-curious" and being gay. Being curious just means that: You're curious, or possibly Bi-sexual. Being gay means you have no real doubts about it. Trust me, I've talked to enough gay people to know.
 

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You can't know if you are gay "for sure" until you have tried it .. otherwise you just "think" you're gay.

That's like saying that you know you don't like carrots but haven't ever tasted them.
 

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You can't know if you are gay "for sure" until you have tried it .. otherwise you just "think" you're gay.

That's like saying that you know you don't like carrots but haven't ever tasted them.
Um no, you can be very sure that you're gay without having sex. Again, you're equating and lumping together being gay and having gay sex. They are two separate things.
 

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lol ok .. well unless you're talking about the gay = happy .. i will always believe you are wrong.
 
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