92 yr. old WWII vet kills home invader

[The Man]

Re: 92 yr. old WW11 vet kills home invader

Is that where the law stands in that particular state? Can you legally kill anyone who attempts to burgle you, or is it more around clear and present threat to life?

When someone is willing to illegally enter your home and commit a crime..one has no way of knowing what else they are capable of...Any sane person would call a burglar a threat to ones well being.

 

[Kakapo Dundee]

So if you believe your life is in danger, you go fetch your gun, sit on the couch and execute the first person you see?
You don't call the police, you don't challenge them through the door, you don't fire a warning shot, or attempt to stop them with anything other than lethal force?

Legal....probably. Ethical? Nope.

 

[The Man]

Re: 92 yr. old WW11 vet kills home invader

And I'm sure that he had options other than to execute the first person who came through the door. We agree on the letter of the law, if the State of Kentucky permits such executions, then the burglars are damn fools. We disagree on the morality of his actions.

Like what...go hide in the closet...perhaps be found then killed?.
He found his best spot for defense and took it....you should be commending the guy for fighting rather than hide like a pussy
Home invasions on elders are on the rise...bust in either kill em of beat the fuck out of em so they cant use the phone.
You act as if burglary is a leisure activity for some reason...Perhaps the Netherlands isnt that paradise after all

 

[Kakapo Dundee]

Re: 92 yr. old WW11 vet kills home invader

...you should be commending the guy for fighting rather than hide like a pussy
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Not a chance. Redneck hillbilly had a multitude of options, chose the most violent response.As far as I see it, he's pushing a badly written law to its limits,and will go to hell if there is such a place soon enough.

 

[The Man]

Re: 92 yr. old WW11 vet kills home invader

Here in PA the castle law was changed that I am fully within my rights to shoot someone who is on my property or in my house. But there is no way in hell I will ever shoot and kill someone just because they are on my property or in my house. There needs to be a threat to my life or my families for me to justify it.

How anyone can just shrug their shoulders and say, "So what, he's dead because I had a legal right to do so" is beyond me. And people still think that religious people have more morals than us atheists... yeah right

Like smashing your head into the concrete repeatably?...would that constitute shooting?
That legal right can save your life

 

[The Man]

Re: 92 yr. old WW11 vet kills home invader

Not a chance. Redneck hillbilly had a multitude of options, chose the most violent response.As far as I see it, he's pushing a badly written law to its limits,and will go to hell if there is such a place soon enough.

And he chose the safest one for himself.
Would you rather he hide ,then be found by these criminal young men and perhaps savagely beaten or killed?

 

[Kakapo Dundee]

Re: 92 yr. old WW11 vet kills home invader

And he chose the safest one for himself.
Would you rather he hide ,then be found by these criminal young men and perhaps savagely beaten or killed?

That would be a very poor option, but in no way was it the only other option available to him.

 

[The Man]

So if you believe your life is in danger, you go fetch your gun, sit on the couch and execute the first person you see?
You don't call the police, you don't challenge them through the door, you don't fire a warning shot, or attempt to stop them with anything other than lethal force?

Legal....probably. Ethical? Nope.

His door was already kicked in..they were inside.
Fire a warning shot?...like that will cripple or kill the criminal..perhaps make him shoot your ass.
Use logic here..some fucker kicks in your door you dont know if he is armed and with what...first shot wins.

 

[The Man]

Re: 92 yr. old WW11 vet kills home invader

That would be a very poor option, but in no way was it the only other option available to him.

It was the best option for him..Kentucky seems to think so as well.
My advice..dont do a home invasion on a 92 year old in KY as he has the right to defend himself.

 

[Kakapo Dundee]

Did you actually read the article or any of the many others available from more balanced sources ? From your posts it looks like you haven't bothered to research the facts.

 

[Kakapo Dundee]

Re: 92 yr. old WW11 vet kills home invader

It was the best option for him..Kentucky seems to think so as well.

It's legal to stand in the middle of the road at night wearing dark clothing, doesn't make it your best option. Try a little harder please.

 

[The Man]

Re: 92 yr. old WW11 vet kills home invader

Here's my problem with all of this.

Let's say you have a cop friend having a few drinks with you one night and someone kicks the door in and comes in. The cop pulls his gun and points it right at the intruders chest.
Would he get into trouble if he just blasted him? Would he need to show that the intruder either had a gun or was coming after him? Or would it be acceptable to just gun him down for kicking in the door and coming in?

Why should he be in trouble for shooting him?...The guy kicked in his door and came in to do who knows what...Obviously up to no good or he would have knocked...I could agree with you if the guy knocked and he let him in.
But if someone kicks in your door are you going to wait and see what he is going to do?...good way to possibly get killed tim.
Its probably was a good idea he shot when he did as there appeared to have been three pieces of shit involved

 

[The Man]

Did you actually read the article or any of the many others available from more balanced sources ? From your posts it looks like you haven't bothered to research the facts.

Read it

 

[The Man]

Re: 92 yr. old WW11 vet kills home invader

It's legal to stand in the middle of the road at night wearing dark clothing, doesn't make it your best option. Try a little harder please.

How does that equate to an old man defending himself from a home invader

 

[Kakapo Dundee]

Re: 92 yr. old WW11 vet kills home invader

How does that equate to an old man defending himself from a home invader

Not playing this silly game with you again. We don't agree, deal with it.

 

[Kakapo Dundee]

Read it

Just the one article? Presumably, that was enough for you to tick the boxes on your preconceived bias, but I'd rather not rely on Fox for anything involving unbiased reporting.

 

[The Man]

Re: 92 yr. old WW11 vet kills home invader

Not playing this silly game with you again. We don't agree, deal with it.

No...seriously what does your statement of

It's legal to stand in the middle of the road at night wearing dark clothing, doesn't make it your best option

have to do whether or not the old man made the best decision for his safety during the invasion

 

[The Man]

Just the one article? Presumably, that was enough for you to tick the boxes on your preconceived bias, but I'd rather not rely on Fox for anything involving unbiased reporting.

Why read more...Kentucky law enforcement already investigated it and deemed it a proper shooting by the old guy.
Do you have anything to prove otherwise

 

[Kakapo Dundee]

Re: 92 yr. old WW11 vet kills home invader

No...seriously what does your statement have to do whether or not the old man made the best decision for his safety during the invasion

You made a leap of logic here.

It was the best option for him..Kentucky seems to think so as well.

Just because something is legal, doesn't mean in any way that Kentucky sanctions it as the best course of action. Ditto for standing in the road.

 

[Kakapo Dundee]

Why read more...Kentucky law enforcement already investigated it and deemed it a proper shooting by the old guy.
Do you have anything to prove otherwise

You really haven't read this thread. Go away and do the basics if you want any further replies from me.