Will God be obsolete in 100 years?

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MoonOwl

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Every time I see this thread title I think of this:

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Perhaps in 1000 years we as a whole will have cast off the mind chains that those in power use to keep us down? One can hope. ;)
 

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1823 April 11. (Jefferson to John Adams). "The truth is that the greatest enemies to the doctrines of Jesus are those calling themselves the expositors of them, who have perverted them for the structure of a system of fancy absolutely incomprehensible, and without any foundation in his genuine words. And the day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the supreme being as his father in the womb of a virgin will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter. But we may hope that the dawn of reason and freedom of thought in these United States will do away all this artificial scaffolding, and restore to us the primitive and genuine doctrines of this the most venerated reformer of human errors."
 

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The only thing I'd ever really be pleased to see is a lessening of the populations (not by death of course :24:) of strong theists and strong atheists, as termed by Dawkins' scale. I think that would, in turn, reduce the destructive forces of religious fundamentalism and open up the channels for novel thought and genuine exploration.
 
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There wouldn't have been near as much genocide in the last century if there had not been Atheist regimes.


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The only thing I'd ever really be pleased to see is a lessening of the populations (not by death of course :24:) of strong theists and atheists, as termed by Dawkins' scale. I think that would, in turn, reduce the destructive forces of fundamentalism and open up the channels for novel thought and genuine exploration.

I would completely disagree with this part. How you can even claim that atheists are fundamentalists is beyond me.

I don't believe in a deity, how does that put me into the group of a fundamentalist? I don't deny others the comfort of faith, in fact, I believe that some people need their faith and would be lost without it. But that doesn't change the fact that I do not believe in a "supreme being"
 

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I'm not going to answer for her, but I can say that I've run across some Atheists that are just as rabid as some Christian Fundamentalists on their viewpoints.

That sometimes they are quite guilty of shooting themselves in the foot w/their want to shove their non-beliefs down someone's throat.

Not all. Some.
 
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I would completely disagree with this part. How you can even claim that atheists are fundamentalists is beyond me.

I don't believe in a deity, how does that put me into the group of a fundamentalist? I don't deny others the comfort of faith, in fact, I believe that some people need their faith and would be lost without it. But that doesn't change the fact that I do not believe in a "supreme being"

When I said fundamentalism I meant religious. To include strong atheists in my statement is to touch on the fact I think both extremes ignore the likelihood we can't know 100%. That's their only commonality. My statement is similar to CityGirl's thread a while back featuring a video claiming the same.
 

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I'm not going to answer for her, but I can say that I've run across some Atheists that are just as rabid as some Christian Fundamentalists on their viewpoints.

That sometimes they are quite guilty of shooting themselves in the foot w/their want to shove their non-beliefs down someone's throat.

Not all. Some.

I can understand that and while I agree that it's annoying and uncalled for, it isn't the same as someone telling you that you will burn in hell if you don't believe their way. If you don't agree with me, nothing happens. It's just a point of view that you won't subscribe to... The fundamentalist Christians, fundamentalist Muslims, fundamentalist whatever religion will use guilt, fear, coercion and every other tactic to get you to join their "flock" to indoctrinate you (brain wash you into their belief system)

The two aren't even remotely the same
 

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When I said fundamentalism I meant religious. To include strong atheists in my statement is to touch on the fact I think both extremes ignore the likelihood we can't know 100%. That's their only commonality. My statement is similar to CityGirl's thread a while back featuring a video claiming the same.

Nothing can be known 100%... I can not say that with 100% certainty that their isn't unicorns living in the alps... but I would still have no problem telling someone that they do not exist. Yet if someone would capture one, I would be the first to say, "holy shit, who would have known?" and accept the fact that they are real. But you won't catch me booking a trip to the alps anytime soon in a quest to look for one... See my point?
 

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Nothing can be known 100%... I can not say that with 100% certainty that their isn't unicorns living in the alps... but I would still have no problem telling someone that they do not exist. Yet if someone would capture one, I would be the first to say, "holy shit, who would have known?" and accept the fact that they are real. But you won't catch me booking a trip to the alps anytime soon in a quest to look for one... See my point?

It's been established in a number of threads we are on the same page about the likelihood of god(s), so this is all wasted on me. I didn't turn into a religious apologetic on a mission to discredit atheism over night. I think you just misunderstood what I was saying back there. Apologies if my point was poorly conveyed.
 

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I can agree with what Pan is saying, I think it's arrogant of anyone to say they know 100% that there is or isn't a God.

I'm not saying that's you Tim. But there are people out there who are exactly like that.

It'd be nice if we could all just agree that you can't know, not really :p but that's just pushing my opinion on people as well.
 
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