Why I think prayer is absolutely futile, and blasphemy.

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IntruderLS1

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Re: Why prayer is absolutely futile, and blasphemy.

No cop out hun. You should know me better than that. ;)

A little metaphoric story to represent:
“Twins, a sister and brother were talking to each other in the womb. The little sister said to the little brother, ‘I believe that there is life after birth!’ Her brother protested: ‘No, no, this is all there is. This is a dark and cozy place, and we have nothing else to do but to cling on to the cord that feeds us.’ But the little girl insisted: ‘There must be something more than this dark place, there must be something else where there is light and freedom to move.’ Still she could not convince her twin brother. Then...after some silence, she said hesitantly: ‘I have something else to say, and I am afraid you won’t believe that either, but I think there is a mother!’ Her little brother now became furious: ‘A mother, a mother, what are you talking about? I have never seen a mother and neither have you. Who put that idea in your head? As I told you, this place is all we have so let’s be content.’ The little sister finally said: ‘Don’t you feel this pressure sometimes? Its really unpleasant and sometimes even painful.’ ‘Yes,’ he answered, ‘what’s special about that?’ ‘Well,’ the sister said, ‘I think this pressure is there to get us ready for another place, much more beautiful than this, where we will see our mother face to face! Don’t you think that’s exciting!”

Another example of why Grace is one of my favorite online peoples. :D

Great story lady. :rockon:
 
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Re: Why prayer is absolutely futile, and blasphemy.

Peter it was metaphoric. If you don't get it, I don't know how to better explain it to you. Sorry.
 

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Re: Why prayer is absolutely futile, and blasphemy.

Sorry Grace, because of my aspurgers syndrome, I'm not very good at understanding metaphors sometimes, nevermind.:)
 

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Your foundation is flawed. There are multipul examples in the Bible that go against your first premis.

And when you say "Christians" shouldn't pray, you really mean "religious people" doin't you? You wouldn't happen to have a soft spot in your heart for us now would ya? :)

Can you cite some examples for me?


I do mean all religious people that pray.
 

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Re: Why prayer is absolutely futile, and blasphemy.

No cop out hun. You should know me better than that. ;)

A little metaphoric story to represent:
“Twins, a sister and brother were talking to each other in the womb. The little sister said to the little brother, ‘I believe that there is life after birth!’ Her brother protested: ‘No, no, this is all there is. This is a dark and cozy place, and we have nothing else to do but to cling on to the cord that feeds us.’ But the little girl insisted: ‘There must be something more than this dark place, there must be something else where there is light and freedom to move.’ Still she could not convince her twin brother. Then...after some silence, she said hesitantly: ‘I have something else to say, and I am afraid you won’t believe that either, but I think there is a mother!’ Her little brother now became furious: ‘A mother, a mother, what are you talking about? I have never seen a mother and neither have you. Who put that idea in your head? As I told you, this place is all we have so let’s be content.’ The little sister finally said: ‘Don’t you feel this pressure sometimes? Its really unpleasant and sometimes even painful.’ ‘Yes,’ he answered, ‘what’s special about that?’ ‘Well,’ the sister said, ‘I think this pressure is there to get us ready for another place, much more beautiful than this, where we will see our mother face to face! Don’t you think that’s exciting!”
Thats a heart waring story but it doesn't really prove anything. Even for a metaphor.
 

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Sorry Grace, because of my aspurgers syndrome, I'm not very good at understanding metaphors sometimes, nevermind.:)
And I am not good at explaining things a lot of the times. :) I try, but I'm just not blessed with that art (teaching things). I don't think it comes naturally to me.
 

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"All your days were written". I suppose there's no way that could mean it says:

July 17th, 2007
*Your choices get filled in later*

July 18th, 2007
*Your choices get filled in later*

and so on.


You JUST said the Bible has to be taken literally. It says all your days are written, not everything you will do is written.
Ever feel like you got missed in the fray? You didn't reply to this one AEF :)
 

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"All your days were written". I suppose there's no way that could mean it says:

July 17th, 2007 July 18th, 2007
*Your choices get filled in later* *Your choices get filled in later*

and so on.


You JUST said the Bible has to be taken literally. It says all your days are written, not everything you will do is written.

"*Your choices get filled in later* *Your choices get filled in later*"


He already knows what your choices are. its a continual paradox.
 

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"*Your choices get filled in later* *Your choices get filled in later*"


He already knows what your choices are. its a continual paradox.
You believe what you want to believe. I'll believe what I want to believe.
 
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