Where can you build an Islamic center?

[The Man]

http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=2977

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Quote:
Originally Posted by mazHur
12 July 2010 at 11:46 GMT
Afghanistan: civilian casualties 'on the rise'

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10598764

Civilian Casualties in Afghanistan: Beyond the Body Count

Wednesday 11 August 2010

http://www.truth-out.org/civilian-ca...time-high62222


From your first link

Quote:
Violence has soared across Afghanistan in recent months, with 212 civilians killed during June alone, Afghanistan Rights Monitor says.
Most of the deaths documented by the report were caused by insurgents, the report notes, with the widespread use of roadside bombs particularly deadly, killing almost 300 civilians.
Suicide bombs were also a major cause of death, the organisation said.
So it appears as if the majority of deaths come from their own people...they must not give a shit about killing some innocent civilians as long as they get some troops along the way.

Thanks again:thumbup

From your second link
Quote:
Taliban and insurgent groups were responsible for 76 percent of the civilians killed this year, most of them victims of roadside and suicide bombs known as improvised explosive device (IED) attacks. The WikiLeaks War Dairy of thousands of classified military documents reveal that IED attacks against coalition forces and civilians increased from 308 in 2004 in to 7,155 in 2009. These crude attacks intimidate an already scarred populace.


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[The Man]

hey, hold on!! I was mistaken, the civilian casualty is not 20 to 1 but 50 to 1! here's the complete story!! go figure!

The U.S. has increasingly used unmanned drones in the war in Afghanistan and in Pakistan. These attacks have killed an estimated 50 civilians for every targeted al-Qaeda or Taliban leader.
The United States has increasingly used unmanned drones in the war in Afghanistan and in Pakistan. These drone attacks have killed an estimated 50 civilians for every targeted al-Qaeda or Taliban leader. These attacks have increased anti-American sentiment, particularly in Pakistan, where 64 percent of the country views the United States -- not al-Qaeda or the Taliban -- as the enemy.
On October 6, 2010, Code Pink, Foreign Policy In Focus, and Pax Christi held a mock drone attack in Dupont Circle in Washington, DC.
http://www.fpif.org/media/mock_drone_attack

Quote:
Originally Posted by mazHur
12 July 2010 at 11:46 GMT
Afghanistan: civilian casualties 'on the rise'

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10598764

Civilian Casualties in Afghanistan: Beyond the Body Count

Wednesday 11 August 2010

http://www.truth-out.org/civilian-ca...time-high62222


From your first link

Quote:
Violence has soared across Afghanistan in recent months, with 212 civilians killed during June alone, Afghanistan Rights Monitor says.
Most of the deaths documented by the report were caused by insurgents, the report notes, with the widespread use of roadside bombs particularly deadly, killing almost 300 civilians.
Suicide bombs were also a major cause of death, the organisation said.
So it appears as if the majority of deaths come from their own people...they must not give a shit about killing some innocent civilians as long as they get some troops along the way.

Thanks again:thumbup

From your second link
Quote:
Taliban and insurgent groups were responsible for 76 percent of the civilians killed this year, most of them victims of roadside and suicide bombs known as improvised explosive device (IED) attacks. The WikiLeaks War Dairy of thousands of classified military documents reveal that IED attacks against coalition forces and civilians increased from 308 in 2004 in to 7,155 in 2009. These crude attacks intimidate an already scarred populace.

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[The Man]

What to expect

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEXWjlgJ83E&feature=player_embedded

 

[mazHur]

Quote:
Originally Posted by mazHur
12 July 2010 at 11:46 GMT
Afghanistan: civilian casualties 'on the rise'

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10598764

Civilian Casualties in Afghanistan: Beyond the Body Count

Wednesday 11 August 2010

http://www.truth-out.org/civilian-ca...time-high62222


From your first link

Quote:
Violence has soared across Afghanistan in recent months, with 212 civilians killed during June alone, Afghanistan Rights Monitor says.
Most of the deaths documented by the report were caused by insurgents, the report notes, with the widespread use of roadside bombs particularly deadly, killing almost 300 civilians.
Suicide bombs were also a major cause of death, the organisation said.
So it appears as if the majority of deaths come from their own people...they must not give a shit about killing some innocent civilians as long as they get some troops along the way.

Thanks again:thumbup

From your second link
Quote:
Taliban and insurgent groups were responsible for 76 percent of the civilians killed this year, most of them victims of roadside and suicide bombs known as improvised explosive device (IED) attacks. The WikiLeaks War Dairy of thousands of classified military documents reveal that IED attacks against coalition forces and civilians increased from 308 in 2004 in to 7,155 in 2009. These crude attacks intimidate an already scarred populace.

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do you want to be the chooser always?? unfair.

Read the latest one ....and the one from authentic source such as bbc!!

try not to play with links as they wouldn;t lead you anywhere except confusion.

I told you the war is counter-productive...Muslims killing Muslims because the terrorists believe they are with YOU!! So, the innocent are getting killed not only at your hands but also you are causing terrorists to kill others at your whims. Same stands true for NATO forces who have joined you for 'political' reasons' because YOU want to be the Champion of the war....
Was it Italy who called back its troops after some got killed in Afghanistan???
I feel so sad when troops get maimed or killed and your media doesn't even tell you about that...nor your media would show you their pictures...

Terrorists are against anyone who supports YOU and this is the reason the whole world is made to suffer...
and that is the bitter truth.
Better stop the war and pursue some constructive pursuit such as letting others live peacefully....as your non-allies are doing. Have some mercy on the marines and their families if you cannot show empathy towards innocent civilians....
I am against terrorists but you are just shooting in the dark!! Catch that bunch of bastards and kill them!
I think if you let the British lead the war they might do better.........

 

[mazHur]

What to expect

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEXWjlgJ83E&feature=player_embedded

full of lies..........


Just think why more than 1.5 M Muslims all over the world have developed hatred for the US?? Why??
Surely they all cannot be mad!!

Think what will happen if the Muslim population increases by 50%???

Think what is wrong with YOU that instigates Muslims to hate YOU!!

Think what Halal meat is not acceptable to you but Kosher is??

Think who goes to Madressahs, orphans and abandoned poor children or the kids of elite??
Think why the rich terrorists would send their kids to religious schools?? They don't.

Think why Osama one of the richest man in Saudia stood against you and you still fail to catch him and are on to side with the Saudi's??

Think why should minorities not be allowed to live anywhere in the world according to the law of the land??

Think why are you destroying country after country in the name of the so-called abstract War on terrorism??

Think it has already taken you about 10 years to war but to no avail?? Why??

Think how long would you want to carry on the War??

Thin what you have gained from the War and what you have lost??

Think think think............

 

[mazHur]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6hp8HMstkE

 

[mazHur]

stories of Love and peace

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ctelPOqdas




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnsIeh_s05g&feature=related



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jglF2e9uI_M&feature=related



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zRmRJ6vA5c&feature=fvw



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hBmLJWyCVc&feature=related

 

[The Man]

full of lies..........


Just think why more than 1.5 M Muslims all over the world have developed hatred for the US?? Why??
Surely they all cannot be mad!!

Think what will happen if the Muslim population increases by 50%???

Think what is wrong with YOU that instigates Muslims to hate YOU!!

Think what Halal meat is not acceptable to you but Kosher is??

Think who goes to Madressahs, orphans and abandoned poor children or the kids of elite??
Think why the rich terrorists would send their kids to religious schools?? They don't.

Think why Osama one of the richest man in Saudia stood against you and you still fail to catch him and are on to side with the Saudi's??

Think why should minorities not be allowed to live anywhere in the world according to the law of the land??

Think why are you destroying country after country in the name of the so-called abstract War on terrorism??

Think it has already taken you about 10 years to war but to no avail?? Why??

Think how long would you want to carry on the War??

Thin what you have gained from the War and what you have lost??

Think think think............

Just think why more than 1.5 M Muslims all over the world have developed hatred for the US?? Why??
Surely they all cannot be mad!!

So its true then or do you speak for certain nations etc,,,,,seriously,,They all hate us?

Think what will happen if the Muslim population increases by 50%???

More haters?

Think what Halal meat is not acceptable to you but Kosher is??

I have not stated either,,,you do appear to be upset about kosher however.

Think who goes to Madressahs, orphans and abandoned poor children or the kids of elite??
Think why the rich terrorists would send their kids to religious schools?? They don't.

Because it it the way of Islam......get rich become terrorists ?
Whats your point?

Think why Osama one of the richest man in Saudia stood against you and you still fail to catch him and are on to side with the Saudi's??

Are you rejoicing? ...So tell us Why didnt we get Osama.
Oh my...saudi arabia is pure islam and they are harboring Osama for safe haven....say no to Islam?

Think why should minorities not be allowed to live anywhere in the world according to the law of the land??

Thats what we like..the law of the land..Not sharia law.the one you are in support of

Think why are you destroying country after country in the name of the so-called abstract War on terrorism??

Oh my are there countries we dont know about?...please do tell the list of nations we have been destroying .

Think it has already taken you about 10 years to war but to no avail?? Why??

Pussy terrorists hide among the citizens like little girls......Terrorist muslims have no balls,,they are pussies...and care nothing about their citizens...fact the killed 76 percent of civilians since the war...pussies

Think how long would you want to carry on the War??

Till the freaks get a clue you cant go around killing people...like your own citizens doing genocide etc......freaks and pussies.

 

[The Man]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6hp8HMstkE

There is no documentation...he says we did this and we did that blah blah....they show people making boobie traps and make them sit and this is wrong?
All he has are pictures...he has no audio to support any video that he had any of these orders
But we do have audio in the video but nothing to support his claims

Also when you google him up nothing else comes up..Why?,,because he is a liar.
There is nothing to back his claims....out of the million that have been there...why is he the only one saying this?..

 

[The Man]

stories of Love and peace

What a waste of bandwidth

 

[KimmyCharmeleon]

To be in this debate is a waste of bandwidth no offense, this debate isn't even logical, contrary to what you might think :shrug:

 

[dkwrtw]

All Debates are kind of a waste of bandwidth IMO, all it is is two or more people saying the same thing back and forth over and over again, it's pointless nobody is changing anyone's mind on anything, and they inevitably degrade into name calling and personal insults.

 

[KimmyCharmeleon]

Haha, yeah that is true Debating can be so irritating sometimes too.

 

[The Man]

To be in this debate is a waste of bandwidth no offense, this debate isn't even logical, contrary to what you might think :shrug:

Several you tube videos in one post is a waste of bandwidth IMO.

How is this debate not logical?...because your and maz links had information that proved my position?

 

[dkwrtw]

Haha, yeah that is true Debating can be so irritating sometimes too.

That's why I rarely engage, it just feels like a huge waste of my time.

 

[The Man]

All Debates are kind of a waste of bandwidth IMO, all it is is two or more people saying the same thing back and forth over and over again, it's pointless nobody is changing anyone's mind on anything, and they inevitably degrade into name calling and personal insults.

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Haha, yeah that is true Debating can be so irritating sometimes too.

Depends on the position one takes...as we can see here in this thread,I took the proper stance backed it...meanwhile links were posted by the opposition which supported my position...I can see how that could be aggravating

 

[KimmyCharmeleon]

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Depends on the position one takes...as we can see here in this thread,I took the proper stance backed it...meanwhile links were posted by the opposition which supported my position...I can see how that could be aggravating

No, it's the attitude of debaters and their misinterpretations of the opposition's data that is more aggravating. And the debater won't admit that sadly. How arrogant.

 

[The Man]

No, it's the attitude of debaters and their misinterpretations of the opposition's data that is more aggravating. And the debater won't admit that sadly. How arrogant.

You have to be prepared for that and be able to back ones claims..but most importantly one has to be sure they are posting the truth and the rest will work itself out...it can get rough while they dodge for sure...and make emotional posts
In the end its all in fun though to be done again another day

 

[mazHur]

So its true then or do you speak for certain nations etc,,,,,seriously,,They all hate us?

I don't speak for any nation. You exhibit a general hatred for Muslims hence my reference to them all!!

More haters?

No, more isolation/

I have not stated either,,,you do appear to be upset about kosher however.

Kosher is my favorite..Halal too!

Because it it the way of Islam......get rich become terrorists ?
Whats your point?

It's not a matter of getting rich and becoming terrorists....the point is that the children of the rich dont go to the schools called Madressahs......where mainly orphans or children of extremely poor families go for study, religious teaching being the main focus ofcourse. These schools operate on charity and are registered with governments.

Unlike the US , Education is not free for children...If these schools didnt exist more illiteracy would appear.

Children of the rich go to the US, UK and other developed countries of the world and they are mostly high-level Professionals!!

Person reading the script in your video is only trying to create fear and hatred ....calling Islam not a religion IS more than ridiculous!!

Are you rejoicing? ...So tell us Why didnt we get Osama.
Oh my...saudi arabia is pure islam and they are harboring Osama for safe haven....say no to Islam?

Fuck Osama! According to reports he is already dead and someone seems trying to cash-on in his name, Oh! holy osama!! Why don't you ask the Saudi's of which he is/was a citizen???
You screwed every inch of Afghanistan and couldnt catch a mouse?? Ha! what a waste of energies!
Strong fences make strong neighbors....but they are not your neighbors, it is Afghan land and if anyone goes screwing someone's land for his lost dick the people there will certainly protest!!

Thats what we like..the law of the land..Not sharia law.the one you are in support of

Who the hell is asking you to follow anything??? That's purely upto you....but please respect your own Constitution and the word of your founding fathers!!

Oh my are there countries we dont know about?...please do tell the list of nations we have been destroying .

What do you think about..Iraq, Afghanistan and on the waiting list, Pakistan, Iran etc?? Are you there on picnic?

Pussy terrorists hide among the citizens like little girls......Terrorist muslims have no balls,,they are pussies...and care nothing about their citizens...fact the killed 76 percent of civilians since the war...pussies

killing 50 civilians for one terrorist is not fair!!
There are reports they buy weapons from YOU with that filthy money....after all who's supplying them with arms and ammunition??

Till the freaks get a clue you cant go around killing people...like your own citizens doing genocide etc......freaks and pussies.

I already told you a Muslim is a worse enemy of a Muslim of another sect., no surprise (Sunni vs Shia) ..because they have allied with you the terrorists are unhappy and would even kill Muslims for not siding with them.
Thus, in a way, your War is indirectly getting innocent people killed..counter-productively!


It is mainly the US which the terrorists are against, not other developed countries like Australia, Japan, China, etc????Why??? Yes, tell me why?? How come you name them as terrorists after more than 1400 years!
Were yyou the one who said you Crusade for peace? I am disgusted!

 

[mazHur]

You have to be prepared for that and be able to back ones claims..but most importantly one has to be sure they are posting the truth and the rest will work itself out...it can get rough while they dodge for sure...and make emotional posts
In the end its all in fun though to be done again another day

haha!! you are telling her all this as you were the only one expert in debating!!
Join a school and start teaching for
the benefit of all!!