Where can you build an Islamic center?

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mazHur

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Depends on the position one takes...as we can see here in this thread,I took the proper stance backed it...meanwhile links were posted by the opposition which supported my position...I can see how that could be aggravating ;)


Self-praise is NO commendation. YOU have miserably FAILED in this debate!!;)
 
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There is no documentation...he says we did this and we did that blah blah....they show people making boobie traps and make them sit and this is wrong?
All he has are pictures...he has no audio to support any video that he had any of these orders
But we do have audio in the video but nothing to support his claims

Also when you google him up nothing else comes up..Why?,,because he is a liar.
There is nothing to back his claims....out of the million that have been there...why is he the only one saying this?..


Google and you will find more marines converted to Islam....

here is one more...listen to what the marine says!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ctelPOqdas
 

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I don't speak for any nation. You exhibit a general hatred for Muslims hence my reference to them all!!




No, more isolation/



Kosher is my favorite..Halal too!:)


It's not a matter of getting rich and becoming terrorists....the point is that the children of the rich dont go to the schools called Madressahs......where mainly orphans or children of extremely poor families go for study, religious teaching being the main focus ofcourse. These schools operate on charity and are registered with governments.

Unlike the US , Education is not free for children...If these schools didnt exist more illiteracy would appear.

Children of the rich go to the US, UK and other developed countries of the world and they are mostly high-level Professionals!!

Person reading the script in your video is only trying to create fear and hatred ....calling Islam not a religion IS more than ridiculous!!




Fuck Osama! According to reports he is already dead and someone seems trying to cash-on in his name, Oh! holy osama!! Why don't you ask the Saudi's of which he is/was a citizen???
You screwed every inch of Afghanistan and couldnt catch a mouse?? Ha! what a waste of energies!
Strong fences make strong neighbors....but they are not your neighbors, it is Afghan land and if anyone goes screwing someone's land for his lost dick the people there will certainly protest!!





Who the hell is asking you to follow anything??? That's purely upto you....but please respect your own Constitution and the word of your founding fathers!!




What do you think about..Iraq, Afghanistan and on the waiting list, Pakistan, Iran etc?? Are you there on picnic?


killing 50 civilians for one terrorist is not fair!!
There are reports they buy weapons from YOU with that filthy money....after all who's supplying them with arms and ammunition??



I already told you a Muslim is a worse enemy of a Muslim of another sect., no surprise (Sunni vs Shia) ..because they have allied with you the terrorists are unhappy and would even kill Muslims for not siding with them.
Thus, in a way, your War is indirectly getting innocent people killed..counter-productively!


It is mainly the US which the terrorists are against, not other developed countries like Australia, Japan, China, etc????Why??? Yes, tell me why?? How come you name them as terrorists after more than 1400 years!
Were yyou the one who said you Crusade for peace? I am disgusted!

I don't speak for any nation. You exhibit a general hatred for Muslims hence my reference to them all!!
Oh Ok since I am not in support of sharia law I have a general hatred for mulims


No, more isolation
But how is Isolation occurring when they are moving at a fast rate into western style nations?

Kosher is my favorite..Halal too!
I havent had either...IMO people can eat what we have on the shelves

It's not a matter of getting rich and becoming terrorists
Sure it is the more money the more toys to use on the citizens

the point is that the children of the rich dont go to the schools called Madressahs
Its sad that they wont accept thier own and choose different schools...have you attended a rich school and heard of the hatred teachings towards the others?


where mainly orphans or children of extremely poor families go for study, religious teaching being the main focus ofcourse.
Ofcourse...learn how to read the quran nothing else


Unlike the US , Education is not free for children...If these schools didnt exist more illiteracy would appear.
Did you know we have put up many many schools in afganistan since the war>{the united states that is}...we are a loving bunch

Children of the rich go to the US, UK and other developed countries of the world and they are mostly high-level Professionals!!
I find that a concern actually...when I broke my wrist the Doc at the ER kept referring to it as elbow..didnt set it or anything said it would heal..I had to fix it later..5 broken bones.


Person reading the script in your video is only trying to create fear and hatred ....calling Islam not a religion IS more than ridiculous!!
O its more than a religions haven't you been implying such?

Fuck Osama! According to reports he is already dead and someone seems trying to cash-on in his name, Oh! holy osama!! Why don't you ask the Saudi's of which he is/was a citizen???
You screwed every inch of Afghanistan and couldnt catch a mouse?? Ha! what a waste of energies!
What do you have against Osama?...I thought we got what we deserved??

Who the hell is asking you to follow anything??? That's purely upto you....but please respect your own Constitution and the word of your founding fathers!!
Why is all of the east so interested in my fucking constitution????


What do you think about..Iraq, Afghanistan and on the waiting list, Pakistan, Iran etc?? Are you there on picnic?
But you stated we destroyed many nations...but i see that has now went to a waiting list

There are reports they buy weapons from YOU with that filthy money....after all who's supplying them with arms and ammunition??
What money are you saying we provide the terrorists with the arms to fight with?

I already told you a Muslim is a worse enemy of a Muslim of another sect., no surprise (Sunni vs Shia) ..because they have allied with you the terrorists are unhappy and would even kill Muslims for not siding with them.
Thankyou very much as you have just shown that muslims will kill each other just because they belong to another sect....exactly what we need in tenn muslims killing each other due to different sects...no thanks
It is mainly the US which the terrorists are against, not other developed countries like Australia, Japan, China, etc????Why??? Yes, tell me why?? How come you name them as terrorists after more than 1400 years!
Incorrect they terrorize everywhere and have even killed more civilians that we have during the war...accounting for 76 percent of f the deaths
They are sick pussies that terrorize everywhere...from the us to Britain to Africa to Australia
Right now some pussie ass terrorists is cutting off some dude head while his hands are tied
They are pussies they run together ...they are like giant gangs and cant whip anyone in a fair fight
 

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I flog your ass in every thread you try me in.....do you want to to set up a poll for the others to vote?


you betta get out of your fool's paradise...
I already know what your ''poll'' would say and what it would say if held in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iran or Palestine!!

How wonderfully this adage reflects upon your conduct!

People living in glass houses shouldn't throw stones at others....

YOU have surely FAILED in this debate...
No way you could win this debate with someone sitting right at the war front ....an eye witness!!;)
 

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you betta get out of your fool's paradise...
I already know what your ''poll'' would say and what it would say if held in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iran or Palestine!!

How wonderfully this adage reflects upon your conduct!

People living in glass houses shouldn't throw stones at others....

YOU have surely FAILED in this debate...
No way you could win this debate with someone sitting right at the war front ....an eye witness!!;)

I flogged you...you know you started pounding them keys...you were hotter than a gay muslim guy that just got his burka stole :24:
 

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It really is sad to see these things go on and on, I honestly don't see what anyone can get out of it, these threads always make me feel like I'm watching Looney Tunes .

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The only way to actually "win" a debate is if at some point one guy stops and says "You're right, I've never thought of it like that!" but honestly how many times have you seen that happen? People will stick by their stance until the bitter end, it's a near impossible thing to admit to yourself that you are actually wrong about something.
 

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The only way to actually "win" a debate is if at some point one guy stops and says "You're right, I've never thought of it like that!" but honestly how many times have you seen that happen? People will stick by their stance until the bitter end, it's a near impossible thing to admit to yourself that you are actually wrong about something.

Yeah exactly. One side usually gives in or they just keep going on forever.
Sometimes I'll admit I'm wrong to some small things, but it depends really. I just ended up winging this debate, it wasn't as fun as others I've had, for many reasons lol.
 

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Religious debates are definitely the least fun, for the fact that there is not really a SHRED of evidence to support either side of a religious debate, that is just 100% a personal belief, or "faith", you can't prove any religion wrong or right, so there is really NO chance of either side giving in, it's so pointless to argue about it, at least with some other debates like science or politics there can actually be facts and evidence brought up to support your point, which can keep it interesting for at least a little while.
 

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Religious debates are definitely the least fun, for the fact that there is not really a SHRED of evidence to support either side of a religious debate, that is just 100% a personal belief, or "faith", you can't prove any religion wrong or right, so there is really NO chance of either side giving in, it's so pointless to argue about it, at least with some other debates like science or politics there can actually be facts and evidence brought up to support your point, which can keep it interesting for at least a little while.

but the topic here is not comparative religions-it is where the mosque ought to be built!! I believe no religion teaches evil and comparing them just for the sake of argument or trying to show one down out of preconceived prejudices is undesirable and this is the reason most religious debates go down the drain! Can anyone dare slaughter a cow in India??? NO...the HIndus regard it as Sacred and won't eat it! Can anyone dare slaughter a pig in Pakistan?? No...because it is forbidden to Muslims and they won't even touch it!! But West is West....(not to speak of Chinese..Jews being exception.)...it will slaughter any animal with joy and serve it on the table!! Lovely!
 

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It still just proved my point, it's just become a yelling match at this point, it ceased to be a debate some time ago.
 

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It still just proved my point, it's just become a yelling match at this point, it ceased to be a debate some time ago.

I agree.

I can't believe I just read this entire thread. Smashing my head against a wall for 10minutes would have been a better use of my energy than this. I just can't believe some of the posts; it really has ceased to be a debate.


At the end of the day, I think people should be able to build a mosque, church, temple, synagogue etc where ever they want, as long as it is within building laws. Didn't anyone ever go to Religious buildings at school as part of Religious Education? From the age of about 8, I regularly went to all types of Religious buildings and had speakers come in and explain their religion to us. It really helped with tolerence because Religions were more open to everyone.
 

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I agree.

I can't believe I just read this entire thread. Smashing my head against a wall for 10minutes would have been a better use of my energy than this. I just can't believe some of the posts; it really has ceased to be a debate.


At the end of the day, I think people should be able to build a mosque, church, temple, synagogue etc where ever they want, as long as it is within building laws. Didn't anyone ever go to Religious buildings at school as part of Religious Education? From the age of about 8, I regularly went to all types of Religious buildings and had speakers come in and explain their religion to us. It really helped with tolerence because Religions were more open to everyone.

Yup I agree, you ought to be able to build a "religious" building wherever you want, I really don't understand the logic behind not letting one be built.
 

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Religious debates are definitely the least fun, for the fact that there is not really a SHRED of evidence to support either side of a religious debate, that is just 100% a personal belief, or "faith", you can't prove any religion wrong or right, so there is really NO chance of either side giving in, it's so pointless to argue about it, at least with some other debates like science or politics there can actually be facts and evidence brought up to support your point, which can keep it interesting for at least a little while.

Regardless of the authenticity of religion this discussion is about where a religious building can be built in a country that promotes itself as a haven of religious freedom. There is a group of people who want to blame and punish the Muslim religion for the acts of fanatical terrorist Muslims on 9/11/01. Considering our history, is this a reasonable attitude for the U.S.?
 
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