What is your attitude to gays and lesbians?

[purpledove]

Ok, it seems you need me to show you just how stupid this comment is and how it does nothing to prove your point......




1) multiple, very frequent change in partners some leading to unhealthy sex life/lifestyle = STDs etc

No proof other than your say so - fail

2) some crimes like sexual abuse of kids in LA stats/police reports show 30,000 are committed by homosexuals
Care to show the number for kids abused by straights? - fail


3) Homosexuals account for a disproportionate number of hepatitis cases: 66% in New York Cit, 70--80% in San Francisco, 56% in Toronto, 42% in Montreal, and 26% in Melbourne
Erm, that shows that in most cities other than the gay capital of the USA it's roughly half and in fact in the gay capital of Australia three quarters of hepatitis cases are in straight people - major fail

4) certain percentage of homosexuals participate in sadomasochism leading to accidental deaths
Certain percentages? What percentage would that be? 1%? 99%? Be percific. - fail

5) In California alone and given that this is the only state that has a hospital catering to the SVPs ( sexually violent predators)( FYI: not all the patients are from California but from all over US ) about 1/3 of the hospital population are gays who have preyed on young kids. Kids interviewed during police reports/investigations show evidence of the lack of knowledge of those kids re: homosexuality and it's effects and how the kids can easily be preyed on....
So two thirds of sexual predators are straight acording to this - major fail

Lets just review this. Oh dear, you fail.

I think You should read the sources posted first b4 you say fail. I doubt that it would only take you 14 minutes ( time of my post is : 26, your post :40 ) to read and research on all those plus post and comment on my previous post. :humm:

YOU FAILED as you didn't give yourself the chance to read and be informed more b4 saying anything in contrary to what was stated.

 

[purpledove]

So just so we're clear on this...1/3 is gay, making 2/3 straight??? Which is the exact opposite of what you're arguing, LOL

Pls enlighten me as I am lost where your post is headed to....*confused*

 

[itsmeJonB]

Pls enlighten me as I am lost where your post is headed to....*confused*

Its common fucking sense
In order to have a fraction the other part of the fraction has to be made up of a group of people. If 1/3 of the pedophiles are gay then the remaining pedophiles, 2/3, must be... what? What's left if not gay..? STRAIGHT

 

[retro]

I think You should read the sources posted first b4 you say fail. I doubt that it would only take you 14 minutes ( time of my post is : 26, your post :40 ) to read and research on all those plus post and comment on my previous post. :humm:

YOU FAILED as you didn't give yourself the chance to read and be informed more b4 saying anything in contrary to what was stated.

He didn't need to... he took the numbers that you gave and turned them on their head to prove why your assertions are nothing short of absurd.


You need to stop playing both sides here... you say you don't have a problem with, "gays" (which is derogatory in and of itself), and yet you're going on seemingly talking about how awful they are.

 

[retro]

Its common fucking sense
In order to have a fraction the other part of the fraction has to be made up of a group of people. If 1/3 of the pedophiles are gay then the remaining pedophiles, 2/3, must be... what? What's left if not gay..? STRAIGHT

Shhh... logic isn't the strong suit of most people here.

 

[purpledove]

Its common fucking sense
In order to have a fraction the other part of the fraction has to be made up of a group of people. If 1/3 of the pedophiles are gay then the remaining pedophiles, 2/3, must be... what? What's left if not gay..? STRAIGHT

Haha! well yes i get the fraction part. in this post itself there's already an error to the info in re: pedophiles as i wasn't stating the pedophiles alone but paraphilias as well.....whole population, get it? Pedophiles + Paraphilias = whole population.

He didn't need to... he took the numbers that you gave and turned them on their head to prove why your assertions are nothing short of absurd.


You need to stop playing both sides here... you say you don't have a problem with, "gays" (which is derogatory in and of itself), and yet you're going on seemingly talking about how awful they are.

It's only absurd to those who don't read more info provided. But stick to what they think they know given they see themselves as know it alls.

Shhh... logic isn't the strong suit of most people here.

and you're quoting in support of an error? He's right about the fraction but wrong about the type of patients. That itself makes you wrong too.....hence logic is maybe not your strong point too. Oh I know what your strong point is: insult people with their ego to lift up your own. Go figure!!!

 

[retro]

Haha! well yes i get the fraction part. in this post itself there's already an error to the info in re: pedophiles as i wasn't stating the pedophiles alone but paraphilias as well.....whole population, get it? Pedophiles + Paraphilias = whole population.


It's only absurd to those who don't read more info provided. But stick to what they think they know given they see themselves as know it alls.



and you're quoting in support of an error? He's right about the fraction but wrong about the type of patients. That itself makes you wrong too.....hence logic is maybe not your strong point too. Oh I know what your strong point is: insult people with their ego to lift up your own. Go figure!!!

Please...

 

[purpledove]

This logic doesn't fit with what I said, so I will address it another way.

You post statistics about homosexuals....the stats say they sleep around, some of them get hurt doing S+M, get hepatitis C at x rate, are sometimes pedophiles...ok...then say....this is what homosexuality endorses, do we want our kids seeing this?

Do you not see the gaping hole in logic you've hopped over? If you took your list and replaced the word gay with straight and plugged in the stats for straight people, one could make the case children aren't safe with straight people, either. But we know that isn't true. Those stats don't accurately reflect the entire population, and the intentions of most straight people who have children.

You've taken statistics and created a slanderous angle.

A great deal of black people are incarcerated, jail is bad for kids, but we know better than to say black people are dangerous to children in society. We know to look at that troubling social phenomenon for what it's worth, and what it is influenced by, instead of painting the blame on the color of their skin. The same should be done for gay people and their trouble social issues.

Anyway, most importantly, how would a child find out a gay person likes it rough in bed if the parenting you claim is essential is being done? It wouldn't, and it makes this whole "think about the children" thing and your list a clear mark of a fear of homosexuality.

Religion is not a good enough excuse to launch a campaign against the characters of homosexuals on the whole. I don't think having an STD, having multiple sex partners, and being into S+M makes a person dangerous to society.

The missing piece is causation. What do these statistics cause? Seems like that is opinion, and it's not valid as fact.

Until causality is established, these facts are good for nothing but slander. So you mean to say all of the opinions then about homosexualoty posted by any member- since they're just opinions are also slander?

Hold on.....i think there's some form of a mistake as i didnt intend to post that. As you can see....from my previous post, that was added to your post hence without further reading when i posted i thought that sentence was part of your post. unfortuntely, it did when it wasnt my intention. So am sorry am not gonna go this route of discussion.

I take offense though for you stating I have taken statistics to create slander- have you even read the sources- or did you just respond based on your opinion ?? I dont think you have even taken the time to read the sources as i still saw you via online that you were still browsing other parts of forum after i posted. So what's the point of asking for sources to prove points and show causality as you asked for BUT not be read anyway and still your high opinion be made to reign with your post? I guess i have wasted my time eh. I rest my case. Nice debating with you. :clap

 

[purpledove]

Please...

I know your type Retro. I have dealt with so many patients with diagnosis like you. So, PLEASE.............:24: :24: :24:

 

[retro]

1) It's "your". You said, "I know you are type Retro."

2) That's pretty fucked up of you to attack someone's mental illness. From a medical professional? For shame... for shame. I think you're in the wrong profession.

But, in this instance... my "type" is merely the type that points out the truth for those that aren't willing to admit it.

 

[purpledove]

1) It's "your". You said, "I know you are type Retro."

2) That's pretty fucked up of you to attack someone's mental illness. From a medical professional? For shame... for shame. I think you're in the wrong profession.

But, in this instance... my "type" is merely the type that points out the truth for those that aren't willing to admit it.

FYI i got the typo corrected same time you posted which means i saw my mistake ( b4 u pointed it out) and am not egoistic not to admit eh plus added an L0L as that's what's exactly is needed with your type of insults.

Does the truth hurt when someone points out how you look like in the mirror when it comes to how you deal with members of Otz in debates sections or not even just at debates but at almost all threads ?? Have you ever analyzed yourself and what you post?? Have you seen the percentage of how many is positive over the negative complaining ones? How many times do you insult people per day?

Your opinion about my profession matters NOT to me. Since you're here in Cali- show yourself and tell me those insults to my face- i challenge you!!! I betcha you can only do such insults online. I dare you!!

 

[Ryder]

Everyone is entitled to love someone. If that person just so happens to be of the same gender then who really cares? Let them be happy.

 

[retro]

FYI i got the typo corrected same time you posted which means i saw my mistake ( b4 u pointed it out) and am not egoistic not to admit eh plus added an L0L as that's what's exactly is needed with your type of insults.

Does the truth hurt when someone points out how you look like in the mirror when it comes to how you deal with members of Otz in debates sections or not even just at debates but at almost all threads ?? Have you ever analyzed yourself and what you post?? Have you seen the percentage of how many is positive over the negative complaining ones? How many times do you insult people per day?

Your opinion about my profession matters NOT to me. Since you're here in Cali- show yourself and tell me those insults to my face- i challenge you!!! I betcha you can only do such insults online. I dare you!!

Ask Ana, I've never had a problem telling people what I believe to their face. Furthermore, the "truth" doesn't hurt me... I know exactly who I am, and I'm okay with who I am. I also didn't insult you, but you chose to take a shot at me because I suffer from bipolar disorder, which is more than a little weak. You've played both sides of the fence here... claiming not to have a problem with, "the gays", while systematically making it pretty clear that you have problems with homosexuals. All I'm suggesting is that you publicly choose one side or the other, because it seems more than obvious to the rest of us which side that is.

Your problem with me is that I'm blunt and I say what I mean, whether it's nice, rude, or indifferent. If people don't like me for it, well... I'm just being who I am. I've never suffered the illusion that I'm ever going to win a popularity contest here or anywhere else. I'd rather be true to myself than to pretend to be someone that I'm not.

As far as analyzing myself goes... I do that all the time. I'd also be willing to bet that my positive/negative ratio is actually pretty close to 50/50... but people focus on the negative; not just with me, but with all things in life.

 

[retro]

Everyone is entitled to love someone. If that person just so happens to be of the same gender then who really cares? Let them be happy.

The wisest comment in this thread came from the youngest poster in this thread. Well put Ryder.

 

[itsmeJonB]

I'm with that homo up there

 

[BornReady]

Quite a few, actually, I've seen some clips about homosexuality patterns in certain species. If I am not mistaken, it's about as prevalent in the animal world as the human world.

My parents used to have a cat with gay tendencies

I see cows mounting other cows quite frequently.

 

[Flakey]

The end.

 

[Siphorous]

People talk about being understanding in this thread but having read it all, I see those same people jumping on other people where those other peoples' first language is not English.

Hypocrites.

 

[Natasha]

People talk about being understanding in this thread but having read it all, I see those same people jumping on other people where those other peoples' first language is not English.

Hypocrites.

I'm not trying to be funny, but I never remember who does and doesn't speak English as a first language unless it's OBVIOUS by their posts. I had forgotten until you mentioned it. I also disagree that people are "jumping" on her. Her assertions were somewhat ludicrous, IMO, and some people called her out on it. It's the debate section...it's what happens. *shrugs*

 

[Siphorous]

Then we agree to disagree. It's still hypocrisy, however you choose to mitigate it. I had specific people in mind at the time and you were not one of those.