As I said, sorry if you don't like the answer. Just for the sake of argument, what's your view of why the attacks happened?
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As I said, sorry if you don't like the answer. Just for the sake of argument, what's your view of why the attacks happened?
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Alien Allen
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And you do realise the point you highlighted was an opinion right?
I do not think a Muslim would kill. Would it make more sense to you if I say 'a true Muslim'?
I already explained why I think the events like 9/11 and London Bombings occurred. One Muslim/group interprets the Qur'an in a way that they think the Qur'an is telling them to sacrifice lives for God/Allah. They then go and brainwash (convince/persuade) others of this view, hence the cause of the event.
Looks like you are trying to have it both ways
As I said and it is not opinion but I believe fact they were Muslims. Extreamists but Muslims none the less
The same as there are Christian extreamists for example that find it ok to murder and abortion doctor. They still are christians.
As I said they sure were not Jews and Buddhists were they??
KimmyCharmeleon
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Looks like you are trying to have it both ways
As I said and it is not opinion but I believe fact they were Muslims. Extreamists but Muslims none the less
The same as there are Christian extreamists for example that find it ok to murder and abortion doctor. They still are christians.
As I said they sure were not Jews and Buddhists were they??
Beliefs are independent of fact and truth. I'm not stating my opinion as fact, so it's not right to try and contradict it with this 'fact' that Muslims caused the event, i.e., you can't compare my opinion to fact.
Okay maybe that could've been a bit clearer...I'm allowed to say "I don't think they would kill", even if the fact is that they actually do go off and kill.
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Alien Allen
Froggy the Prick
You are making no sense at all
So you are claiming because you don't think a Muslim would kill they they could not have been Muslims?
Did you hear the voices from the terrorists on the flight that was taken down?? There can be no mistaken belief they were anything but Muslims. Radical yes but Muslim none the less. Are you trying to claim otherwise??
Muslim, yes, but not representative of the Muslim community as a whole. They were members of an extremist wing of Muslim beliefs.
I'm assuming that most Christians out there aren't going to endorse Adolf Hitler and his genocidal views, even though he was Christian, and repeatedly stated so. He was off his rocker and held extremist views that he lumped under the Christianity umbrella.
Which is what the screwballs who perpetrated the 9/11 attacks were.
Yes Kimmy, we're all aware by now that you're taking a class on logic... but one class on a subject does not an expert make.
You're onto something with your other comments, but you have the wrong fallacy of vacuity. mazHur's arguments are full of non sequiturs and circular reasoning, I suppose I could see petitio principiii as well, but the other two are more apt descriptors. As far as ad hominem attacks go, I don't think you were referring to those types of arguments as fallacies of vacuity, because they're actually fallacies of relevance. On that subject, mazHur is full of them as well... regularly throwing out red herrings and straw man arguments in an attempt to distract everyone whenever he is proved to be incorrect.
then what do you think is reliable???
Everything can be verified...even God is printed on the face of dollar bill!!
Hitler had ambitions, what had the terrorists?? WHY did they bomb only the US and not,say, Singapore, or Japan????WHY??? Please show up with some reasonable answer, there is always good reason for committing crime.
When a murderer commits murder he is not referred to as Christian or Jew, then why call those rogues Muslim?? That is plain bias.
would you stop flooding the thread with your non-sense??
Respected Mods attention is called to this nuisance..
Against the clarifications on and off issued by your leaders, you are talking against the American
policy by maligning Muslims and that is NOT fair or called for from your side and is patently prejudicial
and bigotry.
There were people from all walks of life, including Muslims, at the time of bombing TT. Unless there was
a strong mens rea and a good reason for the terrorist Arabs (the Saudis mainly)) to bomb they wouldn't have done it indiscriminately and killed Muslims as well. If Muslims were bad they wouldn't have died rescuing Christians and Jews from the bombed TT!!
There is certainly some other story behind the 9/11 bombings but nobody wants to divulge or admit...
but on the face of it it has to do more with POLITICS and POWER rather than Muslims!!
because they were muslims who committed those acts in the name of islam...like it or not those acts of terror are indelibly linked to islam
now then,you might not like this....but i know muslims from all over the world,pakistan,somalia,iraq....even kurdish muslims.....now i've seen you post some statements which,if you are,in your head stating fact,you are so wrong....you answer with falacies and non truths......like it or not i know more about your religion than most here thats why i can question you and you not be able to answer.......so lets get back to why muslims can have 4 wives,whats the reason?
The forum was flipping out earlier and it posted what I said four times... I didn't think that was difficult to understand.
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