What Is Sharia??

[KimmyCharmeleon]

now then,enlighten us all in the muslim way.....how many died in the world trade center and the london bombings,and what were they guilty of?

I don't think a Muslim would kill. As maz was saying, the Qur'an can be interpreted in many ways, it depends on the person reading it because people interpret things differently.
If a Muslim is to blame for those events, I wouldn't call them Muslim at all really. My guess is that they got brainwashed by others who think that you have to sacrifice lives for God/Allah, it's just one of the implications of differences in interpretation.

 

[Alien Allen]

I don't think a Muslim would kill. As maz was saying, the Qur'an can be interpreted in many ways, it depends on the person reading it because people interpret things differently.
If a Muslim is to blame for those events, I wouldn't call them Muslim at all really. My guess is that they got brainwashed by others who think that you have to sacrifice lives for God/Allah, it's just one of the implications of differences in interpretation.

Well they sure as hell were not Jewish or Buddhists were they??

 

[KimmyCharmeleon]

Well they sure as hell were not Jewish or Buddhists were they??

And you do realise the point you highlighted was an opinion right?
I do not think a Muslim would kill. Would it make more sense to you if I say 'a true Muslim'?

I already explained why I think the events like 9/11 and London Bombings occurred. One Muslim/group interprets the Qur'an in a way that they think the Qur'an is telling them to sacrifice lives for God/Allah. They then go and brainwash (convince/persuade) others of this view, hence the cause of the event.

 

[sofia76]

to be straight, just answer WHY the terrorists bombed the TT??? There is REASON or MOTIVE
behind every thing and it's YOU who are avoiding the answer.

Not really. I can't speak for their reason or motive as they were savagely insane units who thought that they would get into some random paradise for killing innocent people.

That's the reasoning behind it. That's really all of it.

I'm not avoiding your question, it's merely that you don't like the answer.

 

[sofia76]

No..infact non-Muslims get concessions!

Now you are just being paranoid.

 

[sofia76]

sorry, I dont' have time to answer such childish questions...spend some money on buying good books
or google or consult the Saudi Embassy. You are asking me nitty gritty FACTS which are already public
and have not to do much with Sharia!

And yet you are doing the same thing.......anyone willing to enter a debate will gladly defend to the utmost their position, and again, I just don't see you doing that. It seems to me that you are looking more for an argument than a debate.

 

[KimmyCharmeleon]

And yet you are doing the same thing.......anyone willing to enter a debate will gladly defend to the utmost their position, and again, I just don't see you doing that. It seems to me that you are looking more for an argument than a debate.

According to logic, a debate and an argument are the same thing.

 

[sofia76]

According to logic, a debate and an argument are the same thing.

Not necessarily. A debate will follow certain logical procedures and avoid fallacious statements; an argument (especially an inductive one) can look like a debate in formal settings, but is still just an argument.

Regardless, the point I am making here is that the 'argument' I am referring to is that the OP doesn't like the answers given, so ignores them, calls people names (I think I got called a drunk bimbo or some such, no matter) and re-asks the questions.

 

[KimmyCharmeleon]

Not necessarily. A debate will follow certain logical procedures and avoid fallacious statements; an argument (especially an inductive one) can look like a debate in formal settings, but is still just an argument.

Regardless, the point I am making here is that the 'argument' I am referring to is that the OP doesn't like the answers given, so ignores them, calls people names (I think I got called a drunk bimbo or some such, no matter) and re-asks the questions.

Lol! What I mean to say is, an argument is another name for a debate. 'Argument' does not only apply to inductive arguments.

Lol those mistakes would be ad hominem and an informal fallacy of vacuity - I'm going to take a stab and say petitio principii...

By the way, sorry, I'm a bit passionate for logic...

 

[sofia76]

As am I. I work in the CS field, so logic is sort of a by-product of my career.

 

[KimmyCharmeleon]

As am I. I work in the CS field, so logic is sort of a by-product of my career.

Ahh I see awesome I'm learning logical thinking 'cause I'm doing a degree in Psychology, they teach it to us, gunna be something we'll need for the rest of our practicing career lol.

 

[mazHur]

Lol yeah that's true.

Still I think he has a point a few pages back about only wanting quotes from the Qur'an, because the Qur'an is the only real thing that will tell you what Sharia Law is and is not.
If you ask someone what they think Sharia Law is, without reference to the Qur'an, their interpretation may be confounded, so I think that's why he was asking on that one, I don't know.

correct...I believe in the Truthfulness of the Quran only. Quran is Sharia, Sharia is Quran,,,rest is secondary
and confounded.

moreover, in a debate, for example about the Constitution of the US, the parties involved are supposed to
have an idea about the US, it's founding fathers, it's culture, its people and above all geography!
If someone starts asking about Geography in such a case what would you call him??
people who participate in the debate are supposed to know the subject or have good idea about it...and they are also supposed to read the entire thread rather than start from the middle or tail-end...that is not desirable and is
sheer annoyance if done on purpose. And I have reason to believe that a few guys here have ganged up against me and are trying to be smart!

 

[mazHur]

As am I. I work in the CS field, so logic is sort of a by-product of my career.

so?

There is no shortcut to experience!

 

[KimmyCharmeleon]

correct...I believe in the Truthfulness of the Quran only. Quran is Sharia, Sharia is Quran,,,rest is secondary
and confounded.

moreover, in a debate, for example about the Constitution of the US, the parties involved are supposed to
have an idea about the US, it's founding fathers, it's culture, its people and above all geography!
If someone starts asking about Geography in such a case what would you call him??
people who participate in the debate are supposed to know the subject or have good idea about it...and they are also supposed to read the entire thread rather than start from the middle or tail-end...that is not desirable and is
sheer annoyance if done on purpose. And I have reason to believe that a few guys here have ganged up against me and are trying to be smart!

Well I guess some of the questions were irrelevant, I haven't read through it all yet though.
Although it's fair to ask you some questions about it, it's not fun to be bombarded with too many of them lol.

 

[mazHur]

And yet you are doing the same thing.......anyone willing to enter a debate will gladly defend to the utmost their position, and again, I just don't see you doing that. It seems to me that you are looking more for an argument than a debate.

I can't find any strength in your statement...
BTW what has been remained unanswered to the loss of my knowledge??

I am still awaiting answer: WHY did the terrorists attack TT?? What was the mens rea, the motive, the
reason behind that?

 

[mazHur]

Well I guess some of the questions were irrelevant, I haven't read through it all yet though.
Although it's fair to ask you some questions about it, it's not fun to be bombarded with too many of them lol.

okay. lets find out what their questions were, if any, that were not answered???

 

[sofia76]

I am still awaiting answer: WHY did the terrorists attack TT?? What was the mens rea, the motive, the
reason behind that?

they were savagely insane units who thought that they would get into some random paradise for killing innocent people.

Again, that's my answer. Sorry if you don't like it, but it's not going to change.

 

[mazHur]

Without trying to sound like a smart arse here...doesnt it sound better to not be muslim by your description?
It sounds like you are describing clinical depression regarding the muslims to be honest

Unhappy folks will remain unhappy no matter..

 

[mazHur]

Again, that's my answer. Sorry if you don't like it, but it's not going to change.

nonsense!

 

[KimmyCharmeleon]

Damn I would love to bring Zeitgeist into this lol.