What is Islam? - a brief investigation

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Minor Axis said:
Yes, I can buy that as far as religious books go, although in reality we just might have complete freedom to find our own way, no strings attached... of course if you are a really bad person in this life, I'd say there is the potential for payback in the next. ;)
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I'm happy enough with life imprisonment, dont really buy into this payback in the next life stuff learning to let go is a big relief and calmer in more ways than one.:D;)
 
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Minor Axis said:
I've said that any religion that requires a dress code of the rank and file is basically flawed. However, I've seen quite a few nuns and it seems like the habit has gone out of style. Is it even required any more?
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Only if you dont mind attempted rape by a penguin!:D
 
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This is not an adequate answer. Even if you could pin 9/11 on the U.S. Government which I don't think you can, ...
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Ask anyone, if he can portray a disaster using professional cameras, from several angles and places at the same time of the disaster.

and ask any air base if they will keep watching on the second plane which hit the building more than one hour after the first plane, without interference military aircraft !!!.

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thousands of muslim suicide bombers have blown up anyone and everyone who stands in the way of their objectives in a variety of countries in the Middle East. It has become one of the most effective attacks because the perpetrator does not have to worry about getting away. When you want to get serious about discussing this issue give a shout. (sigh)
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ask Islam if it permit so.
 
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I'm happy enough with life imprisonment, dont really buy into this payback in the next life stuff learning to let go is a big relief and calmer in more ways than one.:D;)
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I've never claimed to know and I am repeating myself, but if you view this life as a simulation, and your spiritual life as reality, then what you do on Earth does not really have the same impact as if our lives on Earth was all there is.

So if you murder someone, are you damned forever? Well, if you believe in spirits, you just sent someone home. Could there be retribution? A solid maybe. The threat of punishment has always kept some percentage of spiritual people on the straight and narrow. Although personally I'd say it is an inferior reason to be good versus being good because it makes you a better you. :)

I say that if you believe in a system where spirits show up on Earth in flesh and blood and then cycle to the spiritual world you have to ask what is the purpose? If there is a purpose, there also could be a consequence. If you improve yourself, there may actually be a reward even if it is only self reward, being a better person. If you are an evil bastard, well who knows, what the consequences might be, but it is something worth pondering imo.
 
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Ask anyone, if he can portray a disaster using professional cameras, from several angles and places at the same time of the disaster.

and ask any air base if they will keep watching on the second plane which hit the building more than one hour after the first plane, without interference military aircraft !!!.

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ask Islam if it permit so.
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in any major city across the world theres things being filmed daily......the first hit was captured by a camera filming firemen i believe.....once that hit there would have been cameras everywhere
 
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ask Islam if it permit so.
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I was asking you hoping you might have an opinion why so many Muslims have seen fit to strap on a bomb? In my ignorant opinion, I'd say they have bought into the rhetoric of their movement and they have been promised fabulous rewards in the afterlife by controlling people who may have twisted Islam to suit their political agenda, of course that is just a guess as I don't know about Islam. Anyway...
 
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OMG! That picture looks like it was lifted straight off a Scottish Widows life insurance video! Agreed, she is hot!:nod:
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My friend working in Dubai says the best part about having sex with a Muslim is that, not only are you fucking the girl, but you're also fucking her religion. ;)
 
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in any major city across the world theres things being filmed daily......the first hit was captured by a camera filming firemen i believe.....once that hit there would have been cameras everywhere
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And what about the five Mossad agents who were discovered with their proffessional cameras on the roof of a neighbouring apartment?
 
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Sylviane88 said:
this is just an exemple, keep the absurdities for yourself.
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It was a compliment, I really do think she's hot!:dunno

Minor Axis said:
I've never claimed to know and I am repeating myself, but if you view this life as a simulation, and your spiritual life as reality, then what you do on Earth does not really have the same impact as if our lives on Earth was all there is.

So if you murder someone, are you damned forever? Well, if you believe in spirits, you just sent someone home. Could there be retribution? A solid maybe. The threat of punishment has always kept some percentage of spiritual people on the straight and narrow. Although personally I'd say it is an inferior reason to be good versus being good because it makes you a better you. :)

I say that if you believe in a system where spirits show up on Earth in flesh and blood and then cycle to the spiritual world you have to ask what is the purpose? If there is a purpose, there also could be a consequence. If you improve yourself, there may actually be a reward even if it is only self reward, being a better person. If you are an evil bastard, well who knows, what the consequences might be, but it is something worth pondering imo.
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I dont believe life is fair and reality backs that up. I admire and believe in fighting for that but dont think it has much realistic chance of success so being disappointed with it will only hurt yourself in the long run. I just believe that a fight is a small step on the rungs to giving our future generation a better life.:nod:
 
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I was asking you hoping you might have an opinion why so many Muslims have seen fit to strap on a bomb? In my ignorant opinion, I'd say they have bought into the rhetoric of their movement and they have been promised fabulous rewards in the afterlife by controlling people who may have twisted Islam to suit their political agenda, of course that is just a guess as I don't know about Islam. Anyway...
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There was an interesting programme on TV regarding mistranslations in the Qur'an. Apparently, the 70 odd virgins that they think they're getting is really....... a bunch of grapes!! What a bummer!!!!
 
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