What are your thoughts on torture?

Use of torture against suspected terrorists in order to gain important info can be

  • Justified

    Votes: 7 11.5%
  • Sometimes be justified

    Votes: 19 31.1%
  • Rarely be justified

    Votes: 8 13.1%
  • Never be justified

    Votes: 27 44.3%

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mazHur

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Hey there , I just checked and found this post of yours. How do you claim you didn't insult me thereby??

Originally Posted by Minor Axis
Your response is without merit and idiotic. You have lost the ability to analyze objectively what you are reading in this forum and have reduced everyone to being your enemy. That is your failing.
 
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I'd say that in rare cases it is justified, if you could save the lives of many people via the torture of one scumbag I'd say it's worth it.
 

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"War is Hell."

The only thing worse than war, is losing. So torture will remain an important part of war forever - governments just might get good at convincing you otherwise.
 

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The word is "implicitly," and the post explicitly remarks about your response, which implies that you're smart enough to do better. Of course, Minor's been wrong in the past....


Did I say I spoke the Queen's language???
anyway thanks for clarifying:)
 

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War is the only way to Peace. You get inside a lion's cage and then blame the Lion for not letting you leave!
 

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Hey there , I just checked and found this post of yours. How do you claim you didn't insult me thereby??

Your reply directed at me, (regarding my statement to another forum member that water boarding is torture), was hostile, out of context, without merit and was idiotic. Instead of sputtering, self reflection is in order.
 

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Your reply directed at me, (regarding my statement to another forum member that water boarding is torture), was hostile, out of context, without merit and was idiotic. Instead of sputtering, self reflection is in order.


Where does it say your 'idiotic' response was not directed at some else than me??
 

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Where does it say your 'idiotic' response was not directed at some else than me??

Because when I spoke of water boarding as being torture, I quoted who I was responding to and it was not you. Later when I said your response was "idiotic", which it was, I had quoted you. In a forum like this, usually when someone is quoted, the response is being directed at them. Yes, there are exceptions. Maybe you misinterpreted what was happening, but your response to me was misdirected or it was idiotic. Go back and read it again.

Listen, I'm happy to criticize my country. I think the U.S. has made huge mistakes in the Middle East. However, if you make a post saying that the U.S. is turning into a feudal state, and while I may agree with you on some level, I have a right to call you on your countries mistreatment of women. They are living a glorified feudal existence at the hands of men. If you reply with some bogus response that your countries treatment of women is fair, then I can strenuously disagree with you, can't I? And if I think you are here just to throw shit at the U.S. but are not willing to discuss your own countries short comings well then, you are not being fair. Don't complain when your threads go no where.
 
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Because when I spoke of water boarding as being torture, I quoted who I was responding to and it was not you. Later when I said your response was "idiotic", which it was, I had quoted you. In a forum like this, usually when someone is quoted, the response is being directed at them. Yes, there are exceptions. Maybe you misinterpreted what was happening, but your response to me was misdirected or it was idiotic. Go back and read it again.

why haven't you posted that post of yours to be precise?? I thought it was directed toward me!

Listen, I'm happy to criticize my country. I think the U.S. has made huge mistakes in the Middle East. However, if you make a post saying that the U.S. is turning into a feudal state, and while I may agree with you on some level, I have a right to call you on your countries mistreatment of women. They are living a glorified feudal existence at the hands of men. If you reply with some bogus response that your countries treatment of women is fair, then I can strenuously disagree with you, can't I? And if I think you are here just to throw shit at the U.S. but are not willing to discuss your own countries short comings well then, you are not being fair. Don't complain when your threads go no where.

If you've read the post you will find the answer to your question. I never denied that there is no crime in my country but your attributing to Muslims is just horrific ...against which I protest.

Again I tell you that it's America which makes a news.....because America is currently a word leader or as some one call it The Big Guy in school!!
 

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Define torture

At another site they are arguing about this topic.

I do not think water boarding is torture. And if anybody had a loved one who could be saved by getting info from somebody by doing that I bet they would ok it every time.



I agree. Yes I do not think torture is justified but if it involved getting information to save a loved one then I think most people would do it. :nod:
 
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