The Violent Oppression of Muslim Women - Warning, disturbing video

[mazHur]

I'll defend Islam to the hilt - but I won't defend you, MazHur.

No need to defend anyone....anything, just defend yourself from false notions and ideas about others!

 

[retro]

WTF where did i say I was perfect???

most folks here try to force-feed their unilateral or irrelevant opinions or beliefs on me..that is terrible and simply bullying!

Then leave... there's no bullying going on. There just happens to be a very large subsection of this forum that believe you to be a vile and disgusting individual based on the way you say you view the world.

 

[mazHur]

:eek

Wow...

OK, this was fun for a while- but I'm done now.

You need help. This is not an insult, but a clear statement of fact. You need help.

What suddenly turned into an anti-modernist?? Don't you like fun??

 

[Zorak]

No need to defend anyone....anything, just defend yourself from false notions and ideas about others!

I will defend false notions against Islam.

But your notions are abhorrent.

 

[retro]

No need to defend anyone....anything, just defend yourself from false notions and ideas about others!

Nothing that is said about you is false... it's all based on things that you have said.

 

[skyblue]

and even mature females also don't mate unless in a rut or during pregnancy! do you follow this rule in humans??:thumbdown





IF there was no pleasure in sex nobody would like to fuck for the sake of procreating only. Why do men fuck women during PMS when they know they have passed ''procreation stage''??? grow up, man!



yes, females have the right to ''marry' with whoever they liked...it's only the trait of animal that they have sex with whoever they liked during rut only!! FGS don't compare humans with animals...



You said virginity was a curse or something.....and I asked why not have their hymens ripped after birth to get off that ''curse''....why do you want girls to carry that ''curse'' until 18 or so??? it all falls back upon your own statement..........for being judgmental!!

ok...what i was trying to say...sex with little girls is rife in muslim countries,its not right....let a child be a child........but once a girl reaches adulthood why shouldn't she experience sex?,it doesn't make her dirty,it makes her normal...a muslim once said to me 'i'm negotiating a wife,she's virgin so she's clean'.does that mean that if my daughters not a virgin shes dirty?...and men fuck women past the concieving stage for self satisfaction,fact

and maz....dont tell me to grow up,in fact stop the insults ok

 

[mazHur]

Then leave... there's no bullying going on. There just happens to be a very large subsection of this forum that believe you to be a vile and disgusting individual based on the way you say you view the world.

I don't need your leave...or like you to talk on behalf of others..that sounds like 'wimpish' about you!!

I thought you had some intellect but i was wrong....it's rightly said in such cases : ''a leopard would never lose his spots''!!

I don't seek false and cheap applaud by toeing other people's lline...especially to the bunch of antagonists and narrow minded people you seem to follow or lead?:thumbdown

It's you who is following me,...why don't you just buzz off and let me and my friends stay in peace!

 

[USF Sam]

You said virginity was a curse or something.....and I asked why not have their hymens ripped after birth to get off that ''curse''....why do you want girls to carry that ''curse'' until 18 or so??? it all falls back upon your own statement..........for being judgmental!!

What suddenly turned into an anti-modernist?? Don't you like fun??

Yeah... the notion of "ripping out" some girl's hymen at birth doesn't strike me as "fun" or as very "modern".

I'm strange that way, I guess.

 

[retro]

I don't need your leave...or like you to talk on behalf of others..that sounds like 'wimpish' about you!!

I thought you had some intellect but i was wrong....it's rightly said in such cases : ''a leopard would never lose his spots''!!

I don't seek false and cheap applaud by toeing other people's lline...especially to the bunch of antagonists and narrow minded people you seem to follow or lead?:thumbdown

It's you who is following me,...why don't you just buzz off and let me and my friends stay in peace!

Actually, you're rather disliked around here. Narrowminded? Hardly. I just am not swayed by your archaic views on women and society in general. It's disgusting how you've said that men and women aren't equals, that women will always be subservient to men. How a woman's role is to please her husband. How rape is acceptable for a Muslim man, but the woman that was raped deserves to die because she had extramarital or premarital sex.

Your world view is abhorrent, and I'm willing to bet that the vast majority of this forum would agree with that assessment. The only reason people respond to you is to see what ridiculous statement you're going to make next. I love how as soon as someone disagrees with you, they're a horrible person. When someone calls you on your vile bullshit, they don't know what they're talking about. Now who is the close minded one? It sure as hell isn't me.

 

[mazHur]

ok...what i was trying to say...sex with little girls is rife in muslim countries,its not right..

I disagree.....much worse happens in Hindu state of India....and why you forget that's happening in your churches??

..let a child be a child........but once a girl reaches adulthood why shouldn't she experience sex?,it doesn't make her dirty,it makes her normal...a muslim once said to me 'i'm negotiating a wife,she's virgin so she's clean'.does that mean that if my daughters not a virgin shes dirty?...and men fuck women past the concieving stage for self satisfaction,fact

If a boy can be circumcized in babyhood why not girls not be de-hymenized to clean them off their curse?? Answer!

and maz....dont tell me to grow up,in fact stop the insults ok

BS, you sometimes come up with such childish bullshit l that i have to ask you to ''build up''(is that okay??) ..I never meant to insult you but if you felt that way I am sorry...

 

[mazHur]

Yeah... the notion of "ripping out" some girl's hymen at birth doesn't strike me as "fun" or as very "modern".

I'm strange that way, I guess.

not strange but away from 'rationality'!

 

[mazHur]

Actually, you're rather disliked around here. Narrowminded? Hardly. I just am not swayed by your archaic views on women and society in general. It's disgusting how you've said that men and women aren't equals, that women will always be subservient to men. How a woman's role is to please her husband. How rape is acceptable for a Muslim man, but the woman that was raped deserves to die because she had extramarital or premarital sex.

Your world view is abhorrent, and I'm willing to bet that the vast majority of this forum would agree with that assessment. The only reason people respond to you is to see what ridiculous statement you're going to make next. I love how as soon as someone disagrees with you, they're a horrible person. When someone calls you on your vile bullshit, they don't know what they're talking about. Now who is the close minded one? It sure as hell isn't me.

i never said that ...ad verbatim..
don't try to put your own words into my mouth...:yuk

go and do some nice house work...

 

[retro]

I disagree.....much worse happens in Hindu state of India....and why you forget that's happening in your churches??

We're not talking about India... but again, nice work deflecting and ignoring the point. What happens in our churches? Girls sure as fuck don't endure female circumcision in church here in the US. It isn't an acceptable practice in the US at all.

If a boy can be circumcized in babyhood why not girls not be de-hymenized to clean them off their curse?? Answer!

Those are two entirely different concepts and procedures. How exactly is virginity a curse? Do terrorists look forward to getting 40 cursed women in paradise when they blow themselves the fuck up and murder innocent men, women, and children?

 

[skyblue]

I disagree.....much worse happens in Hindu state of India....and why you forget that's happening in your churches??


If a boy can be circumcized in babyhood why not girls not be de-hymenized to clean them off their curse?? Answer!



BS, you sometimes come up with such childish bullshit l that i have to ask you to ''build up''(is that okay??) ..I never meant to insult you but if you felt that way I am sorry...

i'm church of england.....vicars marry and have chikdren

male circumcizion doesn't even compare to the female kind....i'm circimcized and lead a very rich sex live,i doubt if a female victim could say the same

and yes mazhur,you insult when people post something you cant answer,all in all you're a vile indiviual

 

[retro]

i never said that ...ad verbatim..
don't try to put your own words into my mouth...:yuk

go and do some nice house work...

You explicitly stated that a woman deserved to die because she was raped, because that meant she had extramarital sex. You explicitly stated that men and women aren't equals. I'm not putting any words in your mouth, I'm just taking what you said and using it to prove that you change the rules as necessary to prove your point. As such, you have zero credibility, and you've made yourself into a laughingstock around here. You're a joke.

 

[skyblue]

i still want to know the sex of the 70 virgins that suicide bombers are getting

 

[retro]

i still want to know the sex of the 70 virgins that suicide bombers are getting

It would be fucking awesome if their "paradise" actually existed and there were 70 (I thought it was 40, but regardless) virgins were men. :24:

 

[mazHur]

We're not talking about India... but again, nice work deflecting and ignoring the point. What happens in our churches? Girls sure as fuck don't endure female circumcision in church here in the US. It isn't an acceptable practice in the US at all.

Why not India if the US???
Get out of your Islamophobia before you have the need to see a shrink!

You are a real hate-monger and biased person....rhetoric being your forte.:thumbdown

Those are two entirely different concepts and procedures. How exactly is virginity a curse? Do terrorists look forward to getting 40 cursed women in paradise when they blow themselves the fuck up and murder innocent men, women, and children?

perhaps skyblue said it was a curse...
Virginity is a most precious asset of a woman, a symbol of chastity and honor, not be lost to any bastard but her husband, is a world view ...excluding the 'highly advanced countries'', I guess ! Read your Bible and learn!!
Nobody murders anyone except criminals ......the US being no exceptiion.

 

[mazHur]

It would be fucking awesome if their "paradise" actually existed and there were 70 (I thought it was 40, but regardless) virgins were men. :24:

If I can get 70 virgins here why would i like to go to heaven???

 

[Minor Axis]

Go teach this to someone else....I know my religion very well and don't want to know it from others, Muslims or non-Muslim propagandists!!

You can't comment with authority on any video you HAVE NOT SEEN. You have undermined your credibility regardless of how smart you think you are.

Honor killing is NOT due to religious reasons. Fools must understand by now that it is a wing of cultural whim!

Does the religious establishment in the vicinity spend any time condemning such practices?

What do you mean by ''sexual equality''?? Muslims are forbidden from lechery/debauchery...and for sure they are very ''possessive'' about their women!!
Women in Islam are not used as 'tools of sex'' alone, they enjoy full respect and honor as long as they follow the roadmap and abide by their religious obligations and the law of the land!!
Muslims can and will never never turn into a nation of illicitly produced people who don't even know the real names of their fathers and mothers!!

Who's road map? Who decided a woman's obligations? Anyway you want to gloss it over, second class status is second class status.

Bullshit! Women are treated equally. The first Muslim prime minister of Pakistan was a Muslim.
If Muslim woman were so ''oppressed'' how could she have reached the zenith of her political career??
Talk sense, dude, you are talking to a Muslim who knows better about his faith than you or any other bigoted rascal!

So I am bigoted? She was the exception not the rule. Why do you think she was murdered?