What would be their motive?
And target?
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That's for sure!
I have said over and over that no one should have nukes, so don't add words to my statements.. OK.. :thumbdown
As far as terrorists go, all countries have home grown ones.. Yes the Middle East has more suicide Bombers than any other place at this time but if you look at WII you could argue that Kamikaze plane pilots were just the same.. Different era, same mentality..
So sorry if you feel like you lost the argument and want to try to put words in I did not say but NOT Cool..
I have not stated that you said we should have nukes...but since you claim I have then show the post where I stated such.
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No you just said I argued that we were safe with them having Nukes, a sly way of saying I agreed with them having Nukes.. Which was not true.. I don't believe anyone should have Nukes and have made that VERY CLEAR.. But you insisted to try to add words to things I did not say..
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When you said no...you argued they were safe with nukes.
Doesnt matter whether you believe anyone should have them or not stated elsewhere.
Thats the difference between debating {me} and only posting to be argumentative {you} :cool
You are mixing up so many things rather than stick to the point.
I can perceive how ill at ease you are with the so-called Islamohobia!! Stop it if you can, try controlling people's minds if you can.....you have failed and you will fail because nobody has been able to change mind with war.
Israel is a separate issue. Muslims are not against Jews but ofcourse they hate Israel for highhandedness and illegal occupation of Arab territory,
Palestine has never been claimed by Muslims as their exclusive holy land. In fact If you read history you will note that even Saladin after winning Jerusalem allowed Jews, Christians and Muslims to have their way in that land. That land doesn't belong to Israel--it is jointly sacred to Muslims, Jews and Christians, hence ought to be a neutral kinda place for all these faiths. But it isn't so because of the US backing and suppression of Palestinians.
Terrorist were those who bombed on 9/11....I don't think those fighting in their homes
against the invaders and occupiers are terrorists. would you liked to be called a ''terrorist'' if you fought against someone invading your house , property or honor??
The crux of this talk is that ''Power corrupts but too much power corrupts absolutely''...
Let us view all this talk about warring with an open-mind and its repercussions which are never going to benefit anybody. In truth you are fighing a war against nobody..just an abstract thing like ''terrorism'' is much like fighinng againt a shadow target to destroy the world peace and make more enemies. This seems to be the reason why so many other world powers haven't sided with the US and are planning on their own. One such example is North Korea.....they could prove more dreadful than the Afghans if touched.....they even challenged the US for a fight but the US just passed.
War is warring is bad....it destroys world economies and peace.
Islam as a religion is said to be the fasted growing religion in the US....just try to figure out the reason rather than call them names.
We do not have Islamphobia...being Islam does not make one a terrorists...however be aware of terrorists is hardly a phobia
We are not trying to control peoples minds nor the world...The modern world is sick of terrorists...Rather simple.
Bully thugs that do what they want when they want are are judge jury and executioner all in one...be reading passages out of a book.
Those that stand beside a terrorist and fight with them....that makes em terrorists or a self appointed enemy.
We are only after terrorists....to stand beside a terrorist and fight is fighting for that same cause.
The occupation of Israel is not illegal ...such a notion is rubbish...the problem is..A jewish nation surrounded by Muslim nations..How is that illegal ?...Oh cause they are jews...I get it now.
But what does any of that have have to do with terrorism? Muslims terrorizing each other ..hardly the fault of the West or the Jews in Israel...The problem lies in following the Kuran correct?
Is the Kuran a false doctrine?..They are following the Kuran yes?
What is the cause of terrorism?...What is the common denominator?
You are confused,man. you can't even define a ''terrorist'' and try to herd one and all with one stick!! Why should those who defend their country be called ''terrorists''??
You just avoided and evaded my questions posed to you earlier and are just throwing wide ball.
For more than 1400 years no one---not even its enemies, nor the Christians, the jews or the Hindus, etc, have been able to prove the Quran wrong. Why don't you try it now?? Just making silly statements about any Book is childish.
Here is the lates news and some gruesome pictures from the war front, Afghanistan. Enjoy and evaluate the situation for yerselves..
http://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/infocus/afghan040212/s_a13_26013790.jpg
http://www.theatlantic.com/infocus/2012/04/afghanistan-march-2012/100273/
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The term terrorist itself has the possibility of being politically incorrect.
As well as those that seek them by whatever label we afford them.
The term terrorist itself has the possibility of being politically incorrect.
As well as those that seek them by whatever label we afford them.
The line between deliberate and accidental killings is in any case a blurred one. As the US General Stanley McChrystal, former commander of Nato troops in Afghanistan, said: ''We have shot an amazing number of people, but to my knowledge, none has ever proven to be a threat.'' When six British soldiers were killed in Helmand last week, taking Britain's 10-year military toll to more than 400, their deaths were treated by politicians and media alike as a national tragedy. Meanwhile tens of thousands of Afghans have been killed in the war launched by the US and Britain in Afghanistan, but even the names of the 16 Panjwai victims are largely unreported.
Last year was a record for civilian deaths in the Afghan war: 3021 were reported killed by the UN, which blamed Nato and its Afghan allies for 410 of them, though Afghan human rights organisations insist that such tallies heavily understate the numbers killed by foreign troops, whose casualties are said routinely to be blamed on the Taliban or not reported at all.
Many civilians are killed in night raids or air attacks, such as the one that killed eight shepherd boys aged six to 18 in northern Afghanistan last month. Across the border in
Pakistan, CIA ''targeted'' drone attacks have killed 2300, including hundreds of civilians and 175 children - a massacre of another kind - with the collusion of Britain's GCHQ electronic spying centre.
Last year was a record for civilian deaths in the Afghan war: 3021 were reported killed by the UN, which blamed Nato and its Afghan allies for 410 of them, though Afghan human rights organisations insist that such tallies heavily understate the numbers killed by foreign troops, whose casualties are said routinely to be blamed on the Taliban or not reported at all.
Many civilians are killed in night raids or air attacks, such as the one that killed eight shepherd boys aged six to 18 in northern Afghanistan last month. Across the border in
Pakistan, CIA ''targeted'' drone attacks have killed 2300, including hundreds of civilians and 175 children - a massacre of another kind - with the collusion of Britain's GCHQ electronic spying centre.
Deptula says even for the U.S., any air campaign against Iran would be a long, complex operation.
"This is not a walk in the park," he says. "It would require an orchestrated campaign of some duration, weeks not days, against a wide variety of very challenging target sets."
Deptula says those who talk lightly of airstrikes and bombing need to answer this question: What are you trying to achieve? If it's halting Iran's nuclear program for good, it may take more than air strikes.
"To eliminate the program, one then has to address how far are you willing to go in terms of removing and replacing the regime," he says.
And replacing a regime, he says, means ground troops to support that effort.
http://www.npr.org/2012/03/10/148320514/experts-a-strike-on-iran-poses-many-challenges
"This is not a walk in the park," he says. "It would require an orchestrated campaign of some duration, weeks not days, against a wide variety of very challenging target sets."
Deptula says those who talk lightly of airstrikes and bombing need to answer this question: What are you trying to achieve? If it's halting Iran's nuclear program for good, it may take more than air strikes.
"To eliminate the program, one then has to address how far are you willing to go in terms of removing and replacing the regime," he says.
And replacing a regime, he says, means ground troops to support that effort.
http://www.npr.org/2012/03/10/148320514/experts-a-strike-on-iran-poses-many-challenges
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