The Nuclear Iran

What do you think?

  • The U.S. should take a more active role with Iran.

    Votes: 1 11.1%
  • The U.S. should have taken military action against Iran already.

    Votes: 1 11.1%
  • The U.S. should allow the United Nations to enfore the treaty.

    Votes: 3 33.3%
  • The U.S. should not even concern themselves with Iran. They are no threat to the U.S.

    Votes: 4 44.4%

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MainerMikeBrown

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The U.S. government's hands are tied because so many Americans have had enough of fighting wars in which their's no exit strategy. And who can blame these citizens?
 

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The American government isn't as much of a obstacle to nations who want to create nukes since much of the American public has had enough of invading rebel nations. And these countries are well aware of this.
 

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Fuck Iran

Yah I see your point.. Fuck Iran and lets Nuke the area.. :umno

Not like they are not already paranoid it will happen because the Nation with the most nukes is.......:ninja

Instead of talking lets just trash the place like we have with others in an offensive attack for no valid reason... Once we have we can walk away and leave the women and kids to fend for themselves even if we don't find anything..

Oh you may want to look up who created much of what exist in Iran today in the Shah of Iran Mohammad Reza Pahlavi

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammad_Reza_Pahlavi

I never said nuke..I said fuck em
They dont needs nukes...dont trust em.

I didn't say you said Nuke them .. I said..

Well fine then lets nuke :tooth

You still don't get it do you..

Neither side wins in a nuclear blast..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effects_of_nuclear_explosions


You been drinking?
 

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I have a hard time picturing any nation in its right mind to use a nuclear weapon against any other nation.

I have heard people say, "Well ... Iran's regime is insane!" Granted ... they are quite radical but even the most insane leader must know what consequences there would be to use a nuclear weapon against another nation.

The delivery of a nuclear weapon is more difficult than commonly believed ...
 

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I have a hard time picturing any nation in its right mind to use a nuclear weapon against any other nation.

I have heard people say, "Well ... Iran's regime is insane!" Granted ... they are quite radical but even the most insane leader must know what consequences there would be to use a nuclear weapon against another nation.

The delivery of a nuclear weapon is more difficult than commonly believed ...

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I dont believe in nuking ..but have no issues with political assassinations and over throwing govts.

Fuck em them freak nations
 

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How is lfe treating you in Pakistan mazHur?

The Taliban makes up close to half of Pakistan.

Why?
 

mazHur

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How is lfe treating you in Pakistan mazHur?

The Taliban makes up close to half of Pakistan.

Why?

I don't have any problem with Talibans because they are NOT there...!!

The war on terror is clearly counterproductive and those who counter attack are mostly those whose families have got killed or whose homes have been destroyed by unscrupulous drone bombings. It's wrong to say that half of Pakistan is Taliban--that's just a propaganda. However, Pakistan is a Muslim state but all Muslims are not radicals nor the Talibans. The trouble is mainly in areas up North or down South where Nato forces and their aides are operating.

In other parts of Pakistan, ethnic and sectarian fighting is quite rampant but no Talibans of course.
 

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The Taliban makes up close to half of Pakistan.

Do you genuinely believe that?

Let me rephrase; do you believe that the government of Afghanistan 15 years ago, a country that has a population of under 30 million, have emigrated to Pakistan and made up half of their population, which is about 180,000,000?

Seems unlikely to me.
 

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I don't have any problem with Talibans because they are NOT there...!!

The war on terror is clearly counterproductive and those who counter attack are mostly those whose families have got killed or whose homes have been destroyed by unscrupulous drone bombings. It's wrong to say that half of Pakistan is Taliban--that's just a propaganda. However, Pakistan is a Muslim state but all Muslims are not radicals nor the Talibans. The trouble is mainly in areas up North or down South where Nato forces and their aides are operating.

In other parts of Pakistan, ethnic and sectarian fighting is quite rampant but no Talibans of course.

Do you genuinely believe that?

Let me rephrase; do you believe that the government of Afghanistan 15 years ago, a country that has a population of under 30 million, have emigrated to Pakistan and made up half of their population, which is about 180,000,000?

Seems unlikely to me.

Let me clarify.
Presence and control...not numbers.
The Taliban was the governing force in Afg..they fled to Pk.
The Taliban already had existence in Pk before Taliban members fled from Afg to Pk

The war on terror is clearly counterproductive and those who counter attack are mostly those whose families have got killed
So just stop the war on terror or suffer attacks from family?...That makes the family members terrorists as well.

Its also the age old excuse why the Pk Govt doesnt rid the Taliban..."We are not going to kill family"...Must be alot of Taliban present if there is that much conflict of interest
 

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Let me clarify.
Presence and control...not numbers.
The Taliban was the governing force in Afg..they fled to Pk.
The Taliban already had existence in Pk before Taliban members fled from Afg to Pk


So just stop the war on terror or suffer attacks from family?...That makes the family members terrorists as well.

Its also the age old excuse why the Pk Govt doesnt rid the Taliban..."We are not going to kill family"...Must be alot of Taliban present if there is that much conflict of interest

You have weak argument in support of killings by the Nato forces and their allies including Pakistan.
When a foreing occupier bombs a nation (in this case Afghanistan) indiscriminately or often killing more innocent people than enemies it causes fear, rage and hatred among their family members who almost totally belong to tribal clans. The Afghans are unlike Pakistanis ----but when they are harmed and are forced to flee they just have to cross the neighboring borders of Pakistan or Iranian for safety. There is a very long border between Pakistan and Afghanistan and it's not within Pakistani means to stop refugees from entering. You know how bad the terrain is and terrible at fighting these tribal Afghans are. They speak entirely different language and have different dietary and living style than Pakistanis.
So when these refugees enter Pakistan with all their miseries and tales of death they succeed in winning other peoples sympathies such as the bordering Pathans of Pakistan. Both the Afghans and the Pathans are akin yet speak different languages but are equally martial and believe in vengeance.

When I say the war is counter-producitve I mean to say that it is spreading from Afghanistan to Pathans and now to South Pakistan with scattered supporters of Taliban in other areas of Pakistan. However the hub of Talibans is where the Nato forces are making drone attacks. Unless these attacks are stopped and indiscriminate killing put to an end and judicious measures adopted to convince the Afghans of your ''new order'' there is not going to be peace and the US would only overburden America with war debts or expenditure.

Pakistan is fighting against the Talibans too and not to speak of hundreds of innocent Pakistanis and security officials killed due to suicide bombing more than 40000 of its soldiers have been killed fighting them in their hideouts, in Pakistan.
It's no easy task but a priceless sacrifice by Pakistan in support for their cause.

It's more than 10 years of a failed war in Afghanistan and great waste of public money for something which the strong nations want. First they wanted Al Quaida and Osama but when it got over it it's now bent upon newer enemies, the Talibans. Negotiations with the Talibans might prove fruitful in bringing peace to the world. It is surprising that a super power like America with all its security and defensive checks should apprehend an attack from a poor illiterate belligerent tribal people like the Talibans and create harass among its people.

Iran is located nearer to Europe and you can imagine the devastation which Europe might face if America and its Allies attacked Iran.....with Afghanistan, Pakistan, Russia and many other states of Central Asia and Middle East and even China and North Korea siding fully or partially with it .
 
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