The Nuclear Iran

What do you think?

  • The U.S. should take a more active role with Iran.

    Votes: 1 11.1%
  • The U.S. should have taken military action against Iran already.

    Votes: 1 11.1%
  • The U.S. should allow the United Nations to enfore the treaty.

    Votes: 3 33.3%
  • The U.S. should not even concern themselves with Iran. They are no threat to the U.S.

    Votes: 4 44.4%

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Mercury

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Another hot topic open for debate ...

Iran.

Currently there is no hard evidence that Iran is developing nuclear weapons (that I have seen so far) ...

Iran claims that all nuclear activity in their nation is for medical purposes and the like.

Israel claims that they will attack Iran to stop any nuclear activities because they feel that Iran is a serious threat to them.

What should the United States' role be in this whole thing?




EDIT: Crap! I can't edit the pole options after posting ... option 1 should read: "The U.S. Should take a more aggressive role in ensuring Iran is not developing Nuclear Weapons.
 
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Not to defend anyone but should we not really concentrate on the real problem areas ?

In 2007 the US said that Iran would not even come close to Nuclear capabilities until 2015 if they even tried.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_and_weapons_of_mass_destruction

In fact in 2009 the UK was more worried about Afghanistan thru Pakistan getting their hands on Nuclear Weapons than Iran.. Dirty Bombs I believe is what is the greatest concern not to mention the already big concerns about Pakistan's Nuclear capabilities.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...eapons-fail-Afghanistan-warns-Army-chief.html

I think this chasing countries that we don't like just because they disagree with us or those that are our friends must not cloud our judgment. WMD were never found in Iraq and as hard as they tried to prove they had them it was all to the demise of those who lied to get a war.. Yes we got one bad guy, but at what cost ?

Wars are best fought by those of the country within the country in these types of situations.. That way new Tyrants do not uprise from the ashes and regain newer and more powerful armies.

It's one thing to go to war to protect yourself and yet another to go to defeat another. Has Korea and Vietnam not taught us lessons.. What about Afghanistan who brought not one but two great power house nations to their feet. Yah we got Osama but have we won yet ?

War like anything else should only be used in a very carefully crafted and defenceful way.. Iran is already under great sanctions that are pushing it to limits so what more can we do to it before we really push it over the edge..
 

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Examples..

I could say I don't trust you.. Lack of proper information.. :p


I am lazy tonight so I will just paste

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It All Links Back to Iran: State Sponsor of Terror

Iran’s record clearly speaks for itself. Iran is the single largest state sponsor of terror in the world. All too many of the world’s major terrorist attacks during the last 30 years can be traced back to Iran.

Ever since the 444 day U.S. Embassy Hostage Crisis, the guardians of Iran’s Islamic Revolution have used terror as a primary means of stating their objectives and accomplishing their goals of exporting an ideology.

The Iranian Revolutionary Guards Corps received their initial training in coordination with Yasser Arafat’s Palestinian Liberation Organization. Today, with over 150,000 members, many consider the IRGC to be the world’s largest terror organization; significantly larger than al-Qaeda and the Taliban.

To increase the influence of militant power beyond its own borders, Iran has carried out the majority of terror actions through the use of proxies—quasi-independent organizations, that can carry out acts of terror on behalf of Iranian interests. Proxies also have the added benefit of disguising the identity of an attack’s mastermind.

And they wasted little time before making their murderous impact felt.

Click more to read about Hezbollah and other state-sponsored terrorist organizations.
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Hezbollah

Iran’s flagship proxy is Hezbollah. Hezbollah is a Shiite organization established in 1982 under the instruction and guidance of Ayatollah Khomeini. Hezbollah’s initial operatives were trained by members of the Iranian Revolutionary Guards Corps. Hezbollah’s annual budget is reportedly over $1 billion and Iran is the principle financier. Hezbollah’s stock of missiles from Iran has increased to over 50,000. These weapons enter southern Lebanon through Syria, and then the Bekaa Valley, in violation of international law.

Hezbollah has perhaps the largest global reach of any terrorist organization in the world. Intelligence sources have noted that Hezbollah has sleeper cells across the Middle East and throughout Europe. But more recently with Iranian support, Hezbollah has been increasing its presence in the Western Hemisphere: along the tri-border region of Paraguay, Argentina, and Brazil; in Central America; in Mexico; and potentially even within the United States.

Hamas

Similarly Iran has been sending money and operational assistance to Hamas in Gaza. Hamas militants have received organizational training in Iran. For years, Iran has been sending weapons by sea. More recently, Iranian weapons are being smuggled to Gaza through the porous Egyptian border, via mile-long underground tunnels.

Al-Qaeda and Taliban

What may be even more surprising is Iranian assistance of al-Qaeda. There has been rather extensive cooperation over the years, with hundreds of militants and even top al-Qaeda operatives—possibly even Osama bin-Laden himself—receiving safe haven inside Iran to this day.

Iranian involvement is also cited in the 9/11 Commission Report. Iran is similarly helping the Taliban in its current efforts to fight against American troops in Afghanistan.

Quds Force in Iraq

But perhaps most distressing is Iran’s influence in advancing insurgencies against American troops in Iraq. The Iranian Quds force, the international wing of the IRGC has been leading efforts to fight American troops in Iraq, and is the principal force undermining efforts to create stability in that country.

The U.S. Department of Defense has reported that an alarming number of Improvised Explosive Devices, or IEDs, including roadside bombs in Iraq are found with Iranian markings. To a large extent, the United States is actively fighting Iranian terrorists working for the Iranian regime on a daily basis.

Political Assassinations

For years Iran has assassinated disloyal government members and Iranian dissidents on foreign soil. Numerous death warrants have been issued against those opposed to the principles of the regime. Such a fatwa was issued personally by Ayatollah Khomeini against novelist Salman Rushdie.


http://www.radicalislam.org/threat/iranian-threat/state-sponsored-terror
 

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I think the US needs to butt out of stuff like this for awhile. We are already hated quite enough.

I think savvy political manoeuvring is much more efficient.. Diplomacy has much better effect than bullying in both real life and politics.. One only gets you so far before you lose face.. ;)
 

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Fuck Iran

Yah I see your point.. Fuck Iran and lets Nuke the area.. :umno

Not like they are not already paranoid it will happen because the Nation with the most nukes is.......:ninja

Instead of talking lets just trash the place like we have with others in an offensive attack for no valid reason... Once we have we can walk away and leave the women and kids to fend for themselves even if we don't find anything..

Oh you may want to look up who created much of what exist in Iran today in the Shah of Iran Mohammad Reza Pahlavi

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammad_Reza_Pahlavi
 

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Yah I see your point.. Fuck Iran and lets Nuke the area.. :umno

Not like they are not already paranoid it will happen because the Nation with the most nukes is.......:ninja

Instead of talking lets just trash the place like we have with others in an offensive attack for no valid reason... Once we have we can walk away and leave the women and kids to fend for themselves even if we don't find anything..

Oh you may want to look up who created much of what exist in Iran today in the Shah of Iran Mohammad Reza Pahlavi

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammad_Reza_Pahlavi


I never said nuke..I said fuck em
They dont needs nukes...dont trust em.
 
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