stance on marijuana use/legalization for recreational purposes

[Natasha]

It makes no sense to make it legal. Those who say that alcohol and cigarettes kill, should realise that you need a whole lot more of that to kill you than compared to drugs

Those who say it will kill off the cartel really don't know what they are talking about, the cartel has a vast operation will potentially billions of dollars, that if made legal, would make the head of the cartels richer than the current richest person in the world.

You really think MARIJUANA is more dangerous than alcohol or cigarettes...or that the Drug Cartel is MOST concerned w/ marijuana???

 

[Alien Allen]

Anybody who is against legalization should take the effort to watch the PBS Ken Burns series on Prohibition.

We are repeating the same mistakes as we did back then.

At one point 1//3 of the federal revenue came from booze before prohibition. When they passed the income tax law it allowed them to not be tied down to the booze lobby.

Anyhow legalize the damn stuff. It is way less harmful than booze. Plus it is nobodys damn business what they do in the privacy of their own home. At least that was the philosophy this country was founded on until Prohibition was allowed. My how we have changed into such a friggin nanny state that wants to be so all controlling.

 

[jassilem]

Anybody who is against legalization should take the effort to watch the PBS Ken Burns series on Prohibition.

We are repeating the same mistakes as we did back then.

At one point 1//3 of the federal revenue came from booze before prohibition. When they passed the income tax law it allowed them to not be tied down to the booze lobby.

Anyhow legalize the damn stuff. It is way less harmful than booze. Plus it is nobodys damn business what they do in the privacy of their own home. At least that was the philosophy this country was founded on until Prohibition was allowed. My how we have changed into such a friggin nanny state that wants to be so all controlling.

Jim watched that last week, it was a very good documentary! It just goes to show the lengths and stupidity society will go to to have what they want....

 

[itsmeJonB]

It makes no sense to make it legal. Those who say that alcohol and cigarettes kill, should realise that you need a whole lot more of that to kill you than compared to drugs

Those who say it will kill off the cartel really don't know what they are talking about, the cartel has a vast operation will potentially billions of dollars, that if made legal, would make the head of the cartels richer than the current richest person in the world.

You best be trolling because this post is drippping with stupidity and non-facts

 

[dkwrtw]

Legalize it.

 

[Tim]

You best be trolling because this post is drippping with stupidity and non-facts

ding, ding, ding... we have a winner

 

[PoopaSwoof]

Anybody who is against legalization should take the effort to watch the PBS Ken Burns series on Prohibition.

We are repeating the same mistakes as we did back then.

At one point 1//3 of the federal revenue came from booze before prohibition. When they passed the income tax law it allowed them to not be tied down to the booze lobby.

Anyhow legalize the damn stuff. It is way less harmful than booze. Plus it is nobodys damn business what they do in the privacy of their own home. At least that was the philosophy this country was founded on until Prohibition was allowed. My how we have changed into such a friggin nanny state that wants to be so all controlling.

Well put.:thumbup
Could not have said it better myself.:nod:

 

[Tuffdisc]

You really think MARIJUANA is more dangerous than alcohol or cigarettes...or that the Drug Cartel is MOST concerned w/ marijuana???

OK, I won't touch the stuff because I don't need it or want it (I do have a lot of fun in my life), but I am sure they haven't made marijuana illegal just for the sake of making it illegal, they must of made it illegal for some reason. As for the cartel, who is making the stuff then?

 

[Guyzerr]

As for the cartel, who is making the stuff then?

British Columbia's largest exported cash crop is marijuana and there aren't any cartels here. There's a lot of individuals with very sophisticated large grow operations all over the province especially in my neck of the woods. :thumbup

 

[darkcgi]

hey its the argument thread

 

[itsmeJonB]

OK, I won't touch the stuff because I don't need it or want it (I do have a lot of fun in my life), but I am sure they haven't made marijuana illegal just for the sake of making it illegal, they must of made it illegal for some reason. As for the cartel, who is making the stuff then?

It was made illegal because hemp was a better alternative resource in the 20s and a certain business owner who's name I cannot remember rallied to get it outlawed in fear of losing his paper company. The supreme court backed him and the rest is history. They made false claims including a propaganda film "reefer madness" that convinced people that cannibus actually turns a person insane and causes them to kill.
Fact is violence and marijuana have never been linked and it is physically impossible to overdose on it.

 

[Natasha]

OK, I won't touch the stuff because I don't need it or want it (I do have a lot of fun in my life), but I am sure they haven't made marijuana illegal just for the sake of making it illegal, they must of made it illegal for some reason. As for the cartel, who is making the stuff then?

I don't touch it, either...never have, actually. We don't have cartel problems in Warner Robins, GA...so I can't answer your question. We do, however, have many latin gangs...but they're not the one selling the meth that has become an epidemic in this area.

 

[Zorak]

As for the cartel, who is making the stuff then?

In terms of illegal production:

Small scale: independent growers
large scale: foreign labour camps

On the small scale, local dealers grow on premise and sell to local dealers or sell straight to consumer themselves.
On the large scale, organised crime syndicates facilitate the growth of marijuana in foreign labour camps and the smuggling of metric tons of produce into the western world, and sell to high level dealers, who in turn distribute to their dealers and so on.

If you have a business oriented brain, you can see that, in the case of the large scale, the business model mimics a modern product production and supply line for standard retail products (Production, logistics, whole sale, retail). And that the government is missing out on numerous occasions to levy tax and make some serious money if it was legalised:

Other benefits include:
Takes income away from the low-level dealers in the street, and ultimately organised crime.
jobs created, from people producing marijuana, to those transporting it and those selling it.

 

[Guyzerr]

In terms of illegal production:

Small scale: independent growers
large scale: foreign labour camps

On the small scale, local dealers grow on premise and sell to local dealers or sell straight to consumer themselves.
On the large scale, organised crime syndicates facilitate the growth of marijuana in foreign labour camps and the smuggling of metric tons of produce into the western world, and sell to high level dealers, who in turn distribute to their dealers and so on.

If you have a business oriented brain, you can see that, in the case of the large scale, the business model mimics a modern product production and supply line for standard retail products (Production, logistics, whole sale, retail). And that the government is missing out on numerous occasions to levy tax and make some serious money if it was legalised:

Other benefits include:
Takes income away from the low-level dealers in the street, and ultimately organised crime.
jobs created, from people producing marijuana, to those transporting it and those selling it.

I had mentioned BC before and since then I've done some digging. You might find this a very interesting read. When you read it don't be upset that it blows a hole in almost everything you said. You need to give more credit to the " little guy ". aka mom & pop operations. ( almost everybody knows someone that grows their own smoke ) Something else to keep in mind when you read it are some of the numbers. British Columbia was built on the fishing, mining and logging industries and because of that it has been and will remain one of if not Canada's richest provinces. Lexis, Cadillac etc have mj to thank for their strong sales numbers in BC. :thumbup

LINK: http://stopthedrugwar.org/chronicle-old/195/bcmarijuana.shtml

 

[Zorak]

I fail to see how that blows a hole in anything I said?

 

[Guyzerr]

I fail to see how that blows a hole in anything I said?

" You need to give more credit to the " little guy ". aka mom & pop operations. "

psst.... there are no cartels in British Columbia and what your post concentrated on was the fact that the little guy really wasn't of any consequence.... imo of course.

You want cartels you gotta go to Mexico.

 

[Zorak]

Ok Guyzzer.. Carry on I suppose?

 

[BleedingBull]

It should be legalised, nothing wrong with a billy now and then.

 

[Minor Axis]

It will probably surprise some of you to see me say this, but I think it should be legalized. First and foremost, of all the possible intoxicants one could get their hands on, marijuana is the most natural and least toxic one that I know of. Second, decriminalizing it would free up wasted time and taxpayers money prosecuting people for possession of marijuana. Third, tax that shit along w/ prositution and clear up the national debt!!! LOL

:shesaid

Looking forward to the day when I can give it a try without fear of prosecution...like I do the 2 beers a month I drink.

 

[Accountable]

It's a matter of liberty. A competent adult should be presumed to be able to make his own decisions concerning his own body and life.
Period.