Ted would have probably shot the bugger.all I know is that if Ted Nugent were prez it would be a different kind of bow
so now our President is bowing to another foreign leader
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I know Cheney would have taken a shot at him but isn't Ted one of your national shoot everything that moves kinda guy?Nah, that's Cheney. :jk
Ted would probably pat him on the head or something.
This isn't most forums though Kelvin. This is OTZ and they don't like it when your post derogatory stuff about the USA. I thought you would have figured that out already.
btw... you guys allowed to chew gum yet?
Of course I have to abide by the rules in OTZ but if I happen to meet some of the OTZ guys in other forums I wont hav any mercy for themThis isn't most forums though Kelvin. This is OTZ and they don't like it when your post derogatory stuff about the USA. I thought you would have figured that out already.
btw... you guys allowed to chew gum yet?
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so now our President is bowing to another foreign leader
what should he have done...high fived him, then chucked a browneye?
what should he have done...high fived him, then chucked a browneye?
Bowing? Big deal. The US chastising another country on human rights? Ah, hypocritical now ain't it? For that we can thank the previous administration... The USA. Where torture is now legal. Don't it make ya prouder than shit?:mad
Yeah, bowing in respect is the least of our worries.....
Yeah, bowing in respect is the least of our worries.....
Bowing? Big deal. The US chastising another country on human rights? Ah, hypocritical now ain't it? For that we can thank the previous administration... The USA. Where torture is now legal. Don't it make ya prouder than shit?:mad
Yeah, bowing in respect is the least of our worries.....
At what point in our history was torture NOT legal... or used?
It's never been condoned like it is now.
It used to be we quietly out-sourced it and hoped no one noticed. Now we approve whole-heartedly, do we not?
Makes it kind of lame to point an self-righteous finger at any other nation when we have the torture scandals we do now.
There's no way to know exactly how much and how often it was done in the past, but based on how many other "atrocities" we've committed in war in the past 200 years, I'd think it's pretty safe to say that it has been going on all along. The only difference today is that we have endless media outlets bringing it to the forefront and debating it ad nauseum. Until VERY recently, what the military did stayed out of the press.
How do you think we'd have fared in WWII with countless 24-hour news channels and talk-radio detailing everything that happened each day and debating the rights and wrongs of it? Considering that the number of civilian casualties was exponentially higher back then, the number of our own troops killed in a day often outnumbered the entire body count of the 8-year "Gulf Wars", and that there was no public accountability of what went on with enemy prisoners, do you think we would have had the same result under the scrutiny of today? How about Vietnam when we routinely dumped tons of napalm on villages of civilians and burned all of the skin of their bodies while they were alive? And yet you think we should blame the PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION for turning the tide for us on human rights? Laughable.
It's only a "scandal" on talk radio and talking-head TV shows.
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He's a hunter & eats what he kills, if that's what you mean.
I sort of meant that.
I for one would have thought your country would have learned something in the last 200 years. It seems regarding torture that isn't the case.
Here's a question for you.
What would your position be if other countries did to your soldiers or civilians what the US does to theirs?
The Patriot Act came into being under the previous administration. Hence my comment. Under that act, we have stooped even further down.
Obviously we do not have a pristine past. We're the only nation to drop nukes.
Really? That's why they won't be releasing the rest of the abuse pictures. I think they should. We should know what's been done in our name. In the name of 'Freedom' with our tax dollars.
There are those in our military that know torture is ineffective. Yet, we do it. What purpose does piling up men into a naked pyramid serve? Wanna torture? Start hacking off digits one at a time. Wiping them with feces serves what goal? None. Except making more 'terrorists' of the families of those subjected to those 'college pranks'.
Exactly........ We have lowered the bar so far..................
Alien Allen
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The bar had already been lowered. As Tang said we would have a different world if there had been 24/7 news back during WWII
That is not justifying anything but just a statement of what I believe to be fact. Shit has always been going on but it rarely saw the light of day. No side in battle is immune from doing barbaric things to the enemy. War is not clean.
That is not justifying anything but just a statement of what I believe to be fact. Shit has always been going on but it rarely saw the light of day. No side in battle is immune from doing barbaric things to the enemy. War is not clean.
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Another thing that is not new is how we treat our returning troops....
At least after WWI & II they were treated as if they mattered.
I keep waiting for our government to step up and treat them as they deserve to be treated....... Yet it appears that once again, they are treated as if they should have just died on the battlefield.
It sucks. Big Time!
At least after WWI & II they were treated as if they mattered.
I keep waiting for our government to step up and treat them as they deserve to be treated....... Yet it appears that once again, they are treated as if they should have just died on the battlefield.
It sucks. Big Time!
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