so now our President is bowing to another foreign leader
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:unsure: If you're agreeing with me, maybe I should reconsider my opinion on the subject
Alien Allen
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Dakota Jim
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True, but somehow I doubt liberals are too fired up over this particular issue...
But you're the resident crazy-left representative so I guess you'd know better than I would
Hell no. I don't give a rats ass if he bowed too much or not at all. I'm referring to when Republicans do something insignificant and the democrats jump on them. They look just as stupid doing it.
Goat Whisperer
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I told ya'll I'm a centrist, you don't always have to disagree with me!
You can tell us all you want, but I have yet to see you come down solidly on the right-wing side of a single issue. :dunno
You simply don't bow to a foreign monarch, in doing so you are accepting their authority over you. In addition, Obama didn't bow to Queen Elizabeth, but he practically gets low enough bowing to both the Japanese Emperor and Saudi King that he probably could've blown them without too much difficulty.
I don't disagree that people get worked up over stupid shit, on all sides of the political spectrum. But at the same time, I think this is a bigger deal than people are making it out to be. Hell, the Obama administration has come out defending it, claiming that he bowed out of "policy", when in actuality the State Department policy is that the President will not bow to a foreign monarch.
I don't disagree that people get worked up over stupid shit, on all sides of the political spectrum. But at the same time, I think this is a bigger deal than people are making it out to be. Hell, the Obama administration has come out defending it, claiming that he bowed out of "policy", when in actuality the State Department policy is that the President will not bow to a foreign monarch.
If you're a Centrist, then I'm a Republican :24:
His bow in no way turned over our national sovereignity to the Japanese or Saudi governments :dunno
Personally, I think a hand-shake should suffice, and sure the bow was a little over-the-top reverse-limbo sorta thing, but at the end of the day...who cares???
Goat Whisperer
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Doesn't bowing in England mean something else then bowing in Asia?
I'm not sure about Saudi Arabia. But in Japan, bowing to the host is customary and polite. So I can't see what the fuzz is about.
And... Japan's military is still under influence of the peace terms coined by USA after WWII, so in no way is Obama showing submission..
And... Japan's military is still under influence of the peace terms coined by USA after WWII, so in no way is Obama showing submission..
Actually look it up, the standard is "thou need not bow". No where does it say that the president will not bow.
Lord Stanley
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all I know is that if Ted Nugent were prez it would be a different kind of bow
having saif that if Ted were prez this would be the least of your worries
having saif that if Ted were prez this would be the least of your worries
Goat Whisperer
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What do you call yourself?
I'm a Libertarian
Goat Whisperer
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We're not so different, you and I
That depends... are you a non-interventionist? Support legalization of drugs? A flat (or fair) tax system? Support fiscal responsibility? Believe that social programs such as Social Security, MediCare, (if it gets passed) Universal Health Care system are unconstitutional? Do you support tightening the borders, mass-deportation of illegal immigrants while making it easier to legally immigrate to the United States? Do you believe that government needs to get smaller, not larger?
If you agree with most of those things, you're a Libertarian and not a centrist
Politically speaking, my beliefs line up the closest with those of Ron Paul and the late Barry Goldwater.
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