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Johnny - how about people who just wanted to be left alone but were targeted by the feds like Randy Weaver? Or do you believe that the federal Government is all knowing and can do no wrong?
John's one of those few people so stupid as to believe that the federal gov't is the only entity that can do no wrong. That's why he want's to cede all of his liberty to Washington. He calls it "voting in your best interest."
 

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John's one of those few people so stupid as to believe that the federal gov't is the only entity that can do no wrong. That's why he want's to cede all of his liberty to Washington. He calls it "voting in your best interest."

Says a libtardatarian as he enjoys his union negotiated weekend off, after cashing his union negotiated check. Do you ever feel weird being so anti government as you cash your government checks and go to your government paid doctor? That's gotta be quite the mental conflict.

Have you ever had a private sector job acc?
 

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Johnny - how about people who just wanted to be left alone but were targeted by the feds like Randy Weaver? Or do you believe that the federal Government is all knowing and can do no wrong?

Left alone?....the SOB was an active white supremacist dealing in weapons.
Of course he's going to be on a watch list.
 

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John's one of those few people so stupid as to believe that the federal gov't is the only entity that can do no wrong. That's why he want's to cede all of his liberty to Washington. He calls it "voting in your best interest."

Yes we know what a fine job they are doing....especially with the patriot act with bush..which has had a chance to expire but parts of it just keeping getting renewed.
Now with Obama care another big victory for the govt.
John says its what the conservobots wanted...since he approves of it we may have to call him a conservobot.
 

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Says a libtardatarian as he enjoys his union negotiated weekend off, after cashing his union negotiated check. Do you ever feel weird being so anti government as you cash your government checks and go to your government paid doctor? That's gotta be quite the mental conflict.

Have you ever had a private sector job acc?

How does it feel john when you open your check and much of the taxes go to acc.
It is going to feel much worse in a couple years john when Obama care takes even more of your check.
Since alot of people will have insurance costs will just keep getting higher and higher.
ER filled with snotty nosed kids....normally we raise prices when the demand is so high to slow the flow.
But raising prices will have no affect as the insurance is picking up the tab.
Yes john...insurance is going to get higher and higher as people go spend thousands for little ailments.
Insurance companies will bitch...now people with actual ailments wont get the tests etc they need.
Even more people will be out of work...leaving more time to take themselves and the kids to the hospital over and over john.
I see your check shrinking john ...I see students numbers going down as they cant afford the tuition after paying for insurance.
Mommy and daddy cant help them..as they are paying insurance as well...and more taxes to keep the unemployed going john.
To much sub cooling is not good john.
 

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Stone - I don't want to hijack this thread & I am not trying to portray Randy Weaver as a "nice guy" I am just saying that the Feds vastly exceeded their authority. I just suggest you read From Freedom to Slavery by Gerry Spence.
 

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Stone - I don't want to hijack this thread & I am not trying to portray Randy Weaver as a "nice guy" I am just saying that the Feds vastly exceeded their authority. I just suggest you read From Freedom to Slavery by Gerry Spence.


I suggest you do some research on Weaver.
When in deep trouble from a murder charge or high profile case, Spence was always considered the go to guy for defending the accused.
Does law enforcement make mistakes.....obviously.
But that doesn't negate the reasons for surveillance.
The issue at hand is what is reasonable/unreasonable.
You used an incredibly poor choice for an analogy.
 

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That's cool Stone maybe I did and you have the right to your opinion. Hey at least you didn't call me a "teatard." But you might want to read that book it's interesting. That's all I'm saying on this thread since I getting off the thread.
 

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That's cool Stone maybe I did and you have the right to your opinion. Hey at least you didn't call me a "teatard." But you might want to read that book it's interesting. That's all I'm saying on this thread since I getting off the thread.


I can't call you a teatard.....I'm not a Democrat......:D
 

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Well, personally I can understand where this is all coming from ... after all, the emperor has been placed with unlimited power for life!

.... oh wait ....
 

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so, i started to read all the way through but it turned into drivel, so....

In regards to secession....It's a joke people, no one takes you seriously...Your side lost, bitch for 4 years and then try again....
 

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so, i started to read all the way through but it turned into drivel, so....

In regards to secession....It's a joke people, no one takes you seriously...Your side lost, bitch for 4 years and then try again....

But most importantly, recognize that our country is in crisis, bend over backwards and work with the other side to address the crisis, not stonewall for another 4 years like they the Republican Party have all ready wasted. And before I hear the usual, it's both their faults, actually it was the GOP who has drawn lines in the sand and has refused serious negotiations before the 2012 election.
 

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