Science Saved My Soul.....................

[Peter Parka]

Wow, why dont you guys play nice? I might be sensitive or something.

I guess you've just missed most of this conversation. It pretty much goes like this - Sadie states her belief, I say why I disagree with her, sadie insults me and repeats her belief agin, repeat circle. It's getting boring now. I've nothing against religious people who want to have a proper conversation about their beliefs but Sadie dosen't. She's just hear to talk at you, not to you.

 

[sexysadie]

I've already shown you where you insulted me. You dont want to read it though because you have no interest in anyone except yourself and your opinions.

You are saying the same tired thing which has been completely refuted over and over again. All it shows is that you have no interest whatsoever in a debate and are just a stereotypical religious brow beater. Congratulations, you're done your beliefs much more disservice than any athiest ever could. :clap

lmao....your desperate use the word 'congratulations' a lot does not a point make..lol. I've read everything you've said, sorry to say, and like I've pointed out several times, I see no evidence of debate or anything even remotely close. If you represent the word athiest, I'm soooooo happy to be a christian.

 

[mak2]

I guess you've just missed most of this conversation. It pretty much goes like this - Sadie states her belief, I say why I disagree with her, sadie insults me and repeats her belief agin, repeat circle. It's getting boring now. I've nothing against religious people who want to have a proper conversation about their beliefs but Sadie dosen't. She's just hear to talk at you, not to you.

I was kidding about being sensitive. I was just throwing a distractor out there to get back on topic. I usually find these threads interesting and strengthen my faith. And no, I did not read back the whole thread, I read several of the first ones, then lost track of the thread for a while.

 

[Panacea]

The entire key to the discussion is that there is no proof, no facts, no truth, hence it's faith. The Bible is a terrible document for proving anything other than human's desire to believe. However there are personal testaments of belief. As long as the discussion is framed in that way I have no problems with it other than to say my beliefs if any, are vague, being much more generalized and without substance or specific claims. For example, I might say "there could be a supreme being", but it's not a belief, it's a possibility and I'd never go as far to push the idea of its rules and feelings for the human race. Ancient books written by highly superstitious human beings just don't carry any weight in my modern world unless you are easily influenced. Not to say the message is impossible. I just see no reason why early human beings would be on any faster a track into the mind of God than we are today. Keep in mind these books were written when any bad weather event or plague signified God's displeasure.

And in reality, the Greek gods and other primitive god characters aren't any less viable a concept than the current god characters, aside from popularity hehe.

 

[sexysadie]

I guess you've just missed most of this conversation. It pretty much goes like this - Sadie states her belief, I say why I disagree with her, sadie insults me and repeats her belief agin, repeat circle. It's getting boring now. I've nothing against religious people who want to have a proper conversation about their beliefs but Sadie dosen't. She's just hear to talk at you, not to you.

:24:just your review of this thread alone proves my point. Thank you Peter.

 

[Peter Parka]

You have nothing to say and you're saying it too much. You lack the intelligence to have a debate with me which is why you result to nonsensical petty insults. I am done with you.

 

[mak2]

And in reality, the Greek gods and other primitive god characters aren't any less viable a concept than the current god characters, aside from popularity hehe.

I have no faith in them.

 

[sexysadie]

You have nothing to say and you're saying it too much. You lack the intelligence to have a debate with me which is why you result to nonsensical petty insults. I am done with you.

:24:....and he storms off and slams the proverbial door...lmao...I guess he failed to find his own logic.

 

[Panacea]

I have no faith in them.

They're just as likely to be the "correct" god as your god, regardless of your faith choices. That's what's kinda neat about this.

 

[Tim]

I have no faith in them.

Why not?

Why do you believe in the God of the bible and no other?

Can I ask what kind of family setting you were raised in when it comes to religion? How were you introduced to the bible?

 

[Peter Parka]

:24:....and he storms off and slams the proverbial door...lmao...I guess he failed to find his own logic.

Not at all, I'm still very much interested in debating in this thread, just with people who are capable of having a debate and at least understand the basics, like what "proof" and "logic" mean. Have a nice day. :thumbup

 

[mak2]

They're just as likely to be the "correct" god as your god, regardless of your faith choices. That's what's kinda neat about this.

Well, not just as likely. I have faith in God, and Jesus. I dont know that you can force youself to have faith, nor do I think I could just say I quit having faith. I am really not sure of the mechanism.

I have to go get some work done, "Ill be back."

 

[Panacea]

Well, not just as likely. I have faith in God, and Jesus. I dont know that you can force youself to have faith, nor do I think I could just say I quit having faith. I am really not sure of the mechanism.

I have to go get some work done, "Ill be back."

I would give any theory of a supernatural being as much plausibility as the next theory of a supernatural being, given the amount of logic used to construe the theory. They all seem to borrow from one another, so I think that makes them all equally likely to be true.

 

[Minor Axis]

And in reality, the Greek gods and other primitive god characters aren't any less viable a concept than the current god characters, aside from popularity hehe.

Based on the lack of substance, absolutely. At one point we (humans) had Pagan Gods of Nature, somewhere in the mix, the Greek Gods, then we moved on to the Single God. I'm sure all along fervent faith prevailed. What is it that gives one example more credibility than the others? I've mentioned this before in other threads, even a big face in the sky who proclaims "I AM GOD" would be hard to put your finger on, deity or alien?

 

[Niamh]

I believe Sadie is saying that because of her faith, the existence of God is a fact to her. There is no need for "proof", it just is. That is what faith is.

No, faith is believing something without proof, if there was proof it would then be called fact.

 

[Peter Parka]

The similarities in all the different gods indicates to me that they are inventions of man. As well as borrowing from each other to form their ideas and beliefs, I would think that if there was one true belief which comes from god himself, it would be completely different to all the others.

 

[sexysadie]

Not at all, I'm still very much interested in debating in this thread, just with people who are capable of having a debate and at least understand the basics, like what "proof" and "logic" mean. Have a nice day. :thumbup

One needs to know the meanings of those words themselves in order to recognize them Peter? Perhaps you should read more.

You too..have a great one.

 

[sexysadie]

The similarities in all the different gods indicates to me that they are inventions of man. As well as borrowing from each other to form their ideas and beliefs, I would think that if there was one true belief which comes from god himself, it would be completely different to all the others.

I believe that there is but one God, He's just different things to different people, that's all. That's why they seem so similiar. IMO anyway.

 

[sexysadie]

No, faith is believing something without proof, if there was proof it would then be called fact.

Faith is a complete trust or confidence in someone or something. Complete!! Meaning without a doubt.....to me that's fact.

 

[Niamh]

Faith is a complete trust or confidence in someone or something. Complete!! Meaning without a doubt.....to me that's fact.

yes, without any proof, that's why it's called faith, like I said if there were proof then it wouldn't be called faith it would be fact