Protest Against Taxes!!!!!

[Dana]

IRS.....

At the end of the tax year the IRS office sent an inspector to audit the
books of a Synagogue. While he was checking the books he turned to the Rabbi
and said, "I notice you buy a lot of candles. What do you do with the candle
drippings?"

"Good question," noted the Rabbi. "We save them up and send them back to the
candle makers, and every now and then they send us a free box of candles."

"Oh," replied the auditor, somewhat disappointed that his unusual question
had a practical answer. But on he went, in his obnoxious
way: "What about all these bread wafer purchases? What do you do with the
crumbs?"

"Ah, yes," replied the Rabbi, realizing that the inspector was trying to
trap him with an unanswerable question. "We collect them and send them back
to the manufacturer, and every now and then they send us a free box of
bread-wafers. "

"I see," replied the auditor, thinking hard about how he could fluster the
know-it-all Rabbi. "Well, Rabbi," he went on, "what do you do with all the
leftover foreskins from the circumcisions you perform?"


"Here, too, we do not waste," answered the Rabbi. " What we do is save all
the foreskins and send them to the tax office, and about once a year they
send us a complete dick."

LMFAO :24::24::24:

 

[Dana]

I've gotta repost this on myspace.

 

[Ria]

Carthage is still entitled to a view - his view.

If you don't agree, say so, nothing wrong in him having his opinion, but go easy. Thanks.

 

[COOL_BREEZE2]

IRS.....

At the end of the tax year the IRS office sent an inspector to audit the
books of a Synagogue. While he was checking the books he turned to the Rabbi
and said, "I notice you buy a lot of candles. What do you do with the candle
drippings?"

"Good question," noted the Rabbi. "We save them up and send them back to the
candle makers, and every now and then they send us a free box of candles."

"Oh," replied the auditor, somewhat disappointed that his unusual question
had a practical answer. But on he went, in his obnoxious
way: "What about all these bread wafer purchases? What do you do with the
crumbs?"

"Ah, yes," replied the Rabbi, realizing that the inspector was trying to
trap him with an unanswerable question. "We collect them and send them back
to the manufacturer, and every now and then they send us a free box of
bread-wafers. "

"I see," replied the auditor, thinking hard about how he could fluster the
know-it-all Rabbi. "Well, Rabbi," he went on, "what do you do with all the
leftover foreskins from the circumcisions you perform?"


"Here, too, we do not waste," answered the Rabbi. " What we do is save all
the foreskins and send them to the tax office, and about once a year they
send us a complete dick."

:24: A stitch in time Grace. Bravo. What an ending. Priceless.

And yes guys, as Ria said, please refrain from making personal attacks on members while debating. It's ok to disagree...but it's another thing to throw personal attacks and slurs on a member regardless.

Please act responsibly and avoid butt hurt feelings.

 

[ssl]

There are two guarantees in life: death, and taxes.

Why? Governments exist (taxes) and to live, you must die (death).

Now, if we do not want taxes, we must obviously not want government (chaos). If it is chaos we want, then why would a corporation, which by the way would not have the right to do business, since there is no government to issue licenses, want to even exist? Mobs would tear down any type of building, or result from any activity by the corporation, because of unpopular tactics, or whatever the mob's reason for assembling.

For instance, since I enjoy computers so much, what if Microsoft was in charge of maintaining the infrastructure? Well, given Microsoft's track record, all roads would exist for about 5-10 years, then you would have to pay for support. Or, you could shell out $400 for the best operating system. However, you start to realize that Microsoft IS the government, or at least, the department of infrastructure of the government. Oh, and they require financial compensation for their work, and the results of their work, and the support for their work, and the efforts to support for their work, and so on and so forth, for each piece constructed.

Oh, and the newer roads would be incompatible with older (10+ years) roads. The traffic management system would have to be a Microsoft-only system, which would be powered by voice, which would only work with Microsoft cars. Oh, and everytime you upgrade, it looks prettier for less stable performance, even though it costs the same or more than the previous year's model.

Enter in Apple.
GE
Google, Yahoo, Microsoft (yes, against itself for some quantum-duality reason only they understand)
IBM would own the internet...

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Do you see the reason for government now?

 

[Peter Parka]

Yup! carthage the die hard Republican is actually an anarchist!

The sex pistols would be proud of you mate!

 

[Meirionnydd]

A peaceful cry of anger, sadness, and integrity from those who hate taxes. And I don't intend this to be a debate thread - this is a protest thread. We don't come to your hippie marches, don't come to ours. K?


I'll be posting some websites, pictures, and videos soon.

I am going to disagree with you here. I for one, enjoy having a healthcare system that doesn't require me to go to a private company and pay premiums. A Fire and Police department is also one of the perks of having taxation.

I also disagree with your reasoning that Corporations will deal with things such as infustructure/Police/Fire/welfare on their own. Unless there is profit to be made from such a venture, private enterprise won't go near it. That being said, do you really think that Corporations will have the public's interest at heart when given the responsibility to manage all this?.. I think not.

 

[COOL_BREEZE2]

Nice spin on it ssl.

Meirionnydd, good wetting of the feet to you in our debate section. Welcome and hope to see you more often.

 

[All Else Failed]

Private corporations will run them. They'll be much better.

You don't know that.


Plus, what if corporation need some extra dough, and they start making pay tolls? Thats a kind of tax.

 

[Maulds]

Your hearts in the right place Carthage, because taxation is robbery. But for the greater good the government needs to handle the military, schools, police forces, and highways. We can't eliminate taxes completely but pork barrel spending needs to be curved so taxes can be lowered and people need to have to write a check to pay taxes and not have it withheld. People are so numb because they never receive that money...if you put it in their hand and then make them lose it you light a fire under people's asses.

Think of how many things we pay taxes for that the government should have no part of.

 

[Pudding Time]

Image a corporately ran military? oh wait... we already have that... Black Water, Triple Canopy, etc..

 

[All Else Failed]

Oh and corporations are in it for the common good of the people, they are only in it to make money. Nothing is stopping them from just not caring about the people.

 

[ssl]

I do think the government needs to reduce the number of times it puts its hands in the cookie jar, but you cannot remove the government completely.

Think of it as such:

Tolls for infrastructure -> Use tax on purchases outside of state
Insurance (hurricane/flood/auto/gen-home/life/etc) -> Sales tax
Maintenance costs -> Property taxes

The government/corporate organizational structures are quite similar, in comparing the executive branch to the executive matrix of corporations.

The legal departments of many corporations have different levels/sections (marketing/product/etc) for various sections relating to the particularly respective laws.

The legislative branch of the government draws lines in the proverbial sandbox of the board of directors.

(Did I use 'proverbial' correctly?)

Either way, the parallels that occur between government and corporation is defined well, but some gray areas exist.

Another food for thought: If there were no governments, there would be no business ethics -- which tie into the "helping of people."

Between the two "evils," government versus corporation, government seems to win out, depending on the level of corruption (face it, all governments have some level of it); the mission of the two entities are completely different, although operating under similar models. Corporations, as someone previously said, exist to profit; governments (supposedly) exist to protect.

 

[FreeWorkVest]

No, CORPORATIONS. I'm not an anarchist - that's what charities and donations running the country is. I'm capitalist - corporations running most of the country. There's a big difference. Charity will serve to help those who genuinely can't help themselves (a very small number; when people are forced to get a job when the social programs vanish, charities will have so much extra money they won't know what to do with it).

THis is actually reffered to as "Facism" not "Capitalism".

 

[Meirionnydd]

THis is actually reffered to as "Facism" not "Capitalism".

Agreed. One could also call it Corporatism, I find it very close to what Carthage is advocating,

Historically, corporatism or corporativism refers to a political or economic system in which power is given to civic assemblies that represent economic, industrial, agrarian, social, cultural, and professional groups. These civic assemblies are known as corporations (not necessarily the business model known as a 'corporation', though such businesses are not excluded from the definition either). Corporations are unelected bodies with an internal hierarchy; their purpose is to exert control over the social and economic life of their respective areas. Thus, for example, a steel corporation would be a cartel composed of all the business leaders in the steel industry, coming together to discuss a common policy on prices and wages. When the political and economic power of a country rests in the hands of such groups, then a corporatist system is in place.

 

[FreeWorkVest]

I don't mind paying my taxes. I just take my standard deduction. I don't own a house, so that makes it easier. I never deduct charitable donations, because I think that devalues the donation. Meh.

Every time the governmnet stops policing business, things go awry. Corporations cannot be trusted, as was proved in the late 18th early 19th century, when the US practiced a lazzie(sp?)- faire approachh to businesses and there was horrible corruption and blatant disregard for worker safety.

 

[SouthOfHeaven]

This is really really random.. and I am sorry.. but I thought when I first saw rhis it said protest Texas......

 

[FreeWorkVest]

I am down with a protest texas thread.

 

[GraceAbounds]

Your hearts in the right place Carthage, because taxation is robbery. But for the greater good the government needs to handle the military, schools, police forces, and highways. We can't eliminate taxes completely but pork barrel spending needs to be curved so taxes can be lowered and people need to have to write a check to pay taxes and not have it withheld. People are so numb because they never receive that money...if you put it in their hand and then make them lose it you light a fire under people's asses.

Think of how many things we pay taxes for that the government should have no part of.

Agree'd ... excellent post.

 

[Carthage]

Yup! carthage the die hard Republican is actually an anarchist!

The sex pistols would be proud of you mate!

The term is minarchist.