On The Equality Of Races

[andcuriouser]

In a word, yes.

It's cultural differences, economic differences, stereotypes that make it seem otherwise.

 

[TheOriginalJames]

and furthermore, you guys are picking on a 15 year old and the rest of you are like 50.....how do you feel? Do you feel smart?

wait... what? You're fifteen and you were calling me dumb because my real world experiences and opinions don't concur with your dry eared word of mouth from your parents opinion?

:rofl I should have known.

:rofl :funnah are you saying I was kicking your ass, or at least had you thinking? You admitted that on accident by saying "i should've known."

Nah. Only thing I was thinking about was how badly I wanted to call you names too.

But religion is not a topic I talk about. Religion sucks.

 

[andcuriouser]

Religion's the other one. This one's race.

Seems like it's the same arguments all over again, though.

 

[Atl Falcons]

In a word, yes.

It's cultural differences, economic differences, stereotypes that make it seem otherwise.

Okidoke, here's my proof as to how races are unequal:

Since you think races have the same intelligence (on average), please explain this. Blacks have an extra calf muscle (which has been proven to and obviously makes them jump higher, run faster, etc.) So if Blacks have this extra calf muscle shouldn't they be the BEST race (BY UR LOGIC) because they're faster than all other races and jump higher than all other races....and carry the same intelligence??? That can't be true (but by ur logic it must be true)..but if u look at our society, blacks are in jail the most and make less money etc (and Africa is barely civilized). So looking at this, blacks HAVE to be dumber simply because they're more athleticaly fit, and if not , they're the best race.

 

[Atl Falcons]

and furthermore, you guys are picking on a 15 year old and the rest of you are like 50.....how do you feel? Do you feel smart?

wait... what? You're fifteen and you were calling me dumb because my real world experiences and opinions don't concur with your dry eared word of mouth from your parents opinion?

:rofl I should have known.

:rofl :funnah are you saying I was kicking your ass, or at least had you thinking? You admitted that on accident by saying "i should've known."

Nah. Only thing I was thinking about was how badly I wanted to call you names too.

But religion is not a topic I talk about. Religion sucks.

A'ight LeBron, I feelin u dawg.

 

[andcuriouser]

a) READ WHAT THE HELL I WROTE:

It's cultural differences, economic differences, stereotypes that make it seem otherwise.

b) You have yet to give us proof of this extra calf muscle. I've searched around on google, but so far I only get people asking about it, and no solid proof that it exists.

 

[Atl Falcons]

a) READ WHAT THE HELL I WROTE:

It's cultural differences, economic differences, stereotypes that make it seem otherwise.

b) You have yet to give us proof of this extra calf muscle. I've searched around on google, but so far I only get people asking about it, and no solid proof that it exists.

You're 'b)' gives up the fact that you know you can't beat my unrefutable proof that races are unequal. It is obvious that the only thing you say to defend your stance is to say 'give me proof of the extra muscle'. I learned this in my HEALTH class, it was in my HEALTH book. It has been proven, or else it wouldnt have been brought up to be a fact in my health class or in the health book.

 

[Atl Falcons]

Actually wait, I'll change what I'm saying. Let's agree that blacks don't have an extra calf muscle (even though they do). Now let's look at the NBA, Olympics, NFL, etc. etc. Blacks make up the majority of all major professional sports (football, basketball, baseball) besides baseball. And all of the sprinters in the Olympics are BLACK. How can you explain this if you deny the extra calf muscle? My answer is that blacks may have (if they don't have an extra calf muscle) faster quick-twitch fibers in their leg muscles which allows for faster running, higher jumping, etc. Does anyone disagree or have any other opinions? (if you have a different reason or if you disagree please post why, and if you agree, read on)

Now, if blacks can run faster and jump higher because of quick twitch fibers int their legs...............................................(from this point on go to my post in page 6 that talks about my proof as to how races are unequal)

Even if you don't believe in the extra calf muscle, my proof is still provable and is still disprovable.

 

[andcuriouser]

Oh man.

It is not irrefutable (I'm going to assume that's what you meant) proof, because we haven't seen any proof. You have failed over and over again to show us this extra calf muscle, so as far as I am concerned, it doesn't exist, regardless of what your health class said. And textbooks are fraught with many inaccuracies, besides.

What I HAVE seen is a study that shows that black people have higher levels of testosterone and more "fast-twitch" fibres. Still, this doesn't mean that their brains function any less than anyone else's. Donovan Bailey (reigning 100m Olympic champion) was a stockbroker before he took up athletics, which certainly took some brainpower.

Which then forces me to ask, what exactly is your criteria for a "superior race"? We have seen many different ones over the years. The most notable example: in Germany, one had to be "Aryan". What are your criteria?

 

[Atl Falcons]

Oh man.

It is not irrefutable (I'm going to assume that's what you meant) proof, because we haven't seen any proof. You have failed over and over again to show us this extra calf muscle, so as far as I am concerned, it doesn't exist, regardless of what your health class said. And textbooks are fraught with many inaccuracies, besides.

What I HAVE seen is a study that shows that black people have higher levels of testosterone and more "fast-twitch" fibres. Still, this doesn't mean that their brains function any less than anyone else's. Donovan Bailey (reigning 100m Olympic champion) was a stockbroker before he took up athletics, which certainly took some brainpower.

Which then forces me to ask, what exactly is your criteria for a "superior race"? We have seen many different ones over the years. The most notable example: in Germany, one had to be "Aryan". What are your criteria?

Ok, so I see you agree that blacks may have more testostorne and quick twitch leg fibers, right? Well ok, this means they run faster and jump higher. So if (this is what you said) blacks aren't any dumber than other races, they HAVE to be the best race because they have the ability to run faster and jump higher, while maintaining an equal intelligence. Thus, races are unequal.

 

[Atl Falcons]

Oh man.

It is not irrefutable (I'm going to assume that's what you meant) proof, because we haven't seen any proof. You have failed over and over again to show us this extra calf muscle, so as far as I am concerned, it doesn't exist, regardless of what your health class said. And textbooks are fraught with many inaccuracies, besides.

What I HAVE seen is a study that shows that black people have higher levels of testosterone and more "fast-twitch" fibres. Still, this doesn't mean that their brains function any less than anyone else's. Donovan Bailey (reigning 100m Olympic champion) was a stockbroker before he took up athletics, which certainly took some brainpower.

Which then forces me to ask, what exactly is your criteria for a "superior race"? We have seen many different ones over the years. The most notable example: in Germany, one had to be "Aryan". What are your criteria?

I'm not interested in showing that one races is the 'master race', i'm only interested in proving races are unequal, which is what I have just done.

 

[andcuriouser]

I still think that's pretty weak. I understand your thesis, but I don't understand your criteria.

You're completely ignoring the economical, cultural and social differences everyone keeps pointing out to you.

Give me a list of criteria, and I will try to see it completely black-or-white, no-other-alternatives and then say yes or no to your thesis.

For instance, Aryans were considered the "superior race" to all others, and they weren't particularly athletic or intelligent, they just had certain ancestry.

 

[Atl Falcons]

I still think that's pretty weak. I understand your thesis, but I don't understand your criteria.

You're completely ignoring the economical, cultural and social differences everyone keeps pointing out to you.

Give me a list of criteria, and I will try to see it completely black-or-white, no-other-alternatives and then say yes or no to your thesis.

For instance, Aryans were considered the "superior race" to all others, and they weren't particularly athletic or intelligent, they just had certain ancestry.

First, what do you mean by criteria? i dont get what you want.

 

[Atl Falcons]

I still think that's pretty weak. I understand your thesis, but I don't understand your criteria.

You're completely ignoring the economical, cultural and social differences everyone keeps pointing out to you.

That's the point of my argument, I can solidly prove that races are unequal without looking or using the touchy subject of cultural and social differences......that can easily be refuted or thought to be false.

 

[andcuriouser]

What are you using to define a superior race?

They must be...
Athletic
Intelligent
Have green hair
Whatever

You can't argue that a race is better than another without giving it walls. "Better" is very subjective.

And,

That's the point of my argument, I can solidly prove that races are unequal without looking or using the touchy subject of cultural and social differences......that can easily be refuted or thought to be false.

No, you're just ignoring a huge part of it, not solidly proving anything.

 

[TheOriginalJames]

Leland, I'm glad you joined. The education you received shows up in your perspective. Very well spoken.

 

[Atl Falcons]

What are you using to define a superior race?

They must be...
Athletic
Intelligent
Have green hair
Whatever

You can't argue that a race is better than another without giving it walls. "Better" is very subjective.

And,

That's the point of my argument, I can solidly prove that races are unequal without looking or using the touchy subject of cultural and social differences......that can easily be refuted or thought to be false.

No, you're just ignoring a huge part of it, not solidly proving anything.

ok, once again, im not trying to show a master race..im showing that races are unequal..i.e. some are better than others.

my argument against ur argument is thus (im skipping the details that we've already covered):

-u think races are equal in intelligence
-if races are equal in intelligence then blacks have to be the best cuz they're better at athletics than other races (which is provable from studies showing higher testosterone levels and quick twitch muscles)
-so basically asians (i hope we agree on this) are shorter, smaller than other races. blacks are biger, higher jumpers and faster runners than asians. so if blacks share the same intelligence with asians, BLACKS HAVE TO BE THE BEST RACE BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE SAME INTELLIGENCE (WHICH UUUUU STATED) BUT ARE BETTER AT SPORTS, RUNNING, ETC.

 

[andcuriouser]

NOOOO

You didn't answer my damn question!

 

[andcuriouser]

Oh, and:

Leland, I'm glad you joined. The education you received shows up in your perspective. Very well spoken.

James? My education? Art school isn't relevant! Kidding, thanks buddy.

Honestly, I don't understand the motivation behind this kid's argument. Also, the fervour he argues with. We'll never agree. Why does he bother? I wholeheartedly resent people telling me crap like this, especially since my mother's very fond of pouring it on me whenever I see her.

When I was fifteen I was less concerned with race and more concerned with getting good grades. And having sex, now that I think about it.

 

[Atl Falcons]

Oh, and:

Leland, I'm glad you joined. The education you received shows up in your perspective. Very well spoken.

James? My education? Art school isn't relevant! Kidding, thanks buddy.

Honestly, I don't understand the motivation behind this kid's argument. Also, the fervour he argues with. We'll never agree. Why does he bother?

When I was fifteen I was less concerned with race and more concerned with getting good grades. And having sex, now that I think about it.

I don't really have a motivation other than me and my brother were having a debate and i won, and my post was it.

And why can't u just agree with me......if u disagree please refute my argument....if u cant do that i win.