Obamas passion for Islam

[Kakapo Dundee]

All that this video makes me think about is, 'How many more weeks of this kind of brain-rotting toxic garbage have we got left to endure?'

 

[Accountable]

All that this video makes me think about is, 'How many more weeks of this kind of brain-rotting toxic garbage have we got left to endure?'

Hundreds .... thousands. Why? Have you heard something about the internet being cancelled?

 

[Kakapo Dundee]

I think I just lost the will to live.

 

[robdawg1]

Because most Americans are ignorant of the religion and automatically associate it with terrorism, and that's exactly what people who don't like Obama are trying to do.

Republicans using scare tactics....NOOOOOoooooo.....you dont say!!
:sarcasm

 

[The Man]

Should he denounce his religious beliefs in order to be patriotic?

Not at all
His religious beliefs dont make him unpatriotic .....his statement that he isnt patriotic makes him unpatriotic

 

[The Man]

He'd already addressed that:
Man, if I stipulate that President Obama has passion for Islam ... so what?

Well it does appear to be interfering in regard to Iran

 

[The Man]

All that this video makes me think about is, 'How many more weeks of this kind of brain-rotting toxic garbage have we got left to endure?'

Let me guess it fills the media in New Zealand or you just have a passion for American politics....I guess the latter

 

[The Man]

You are quite wrong. I began to research Barack Obama in 2004 after his stirring key note address at the DNC. I have found a connection to him in his philanthropic work, as well as his strong support of many social programs especially while he was working in inner city Chicago. I continued to follow his Career as a US Senator where he as a junior senator in his first short term introduced a large number of bills to the house as either sponsor or co sponsor, 15 of which became active laws. Most of his bills I sided with which were dealing with energy conservation, health care, Veterans benefits, Ethics, foreign policy, Hurricane relief. This is just in his early days as a national political figure.
As president he immediately made executive financial spending transparent. He Created the post of Chief Performance Officer, whose job it is to make operations more efficient to make the executive office more fiscally responsible. He signed an order banning gifts from lobbyists to anyone in the Executive Branch.
He also has made massive strides in civil rights and liberties. Along with Congressional Democrats, he advocated for and signed the Matthew Shepard and James Byrd, Jr. Hate Crimes Prevention Act, which made it a federal crime to assault anyone based on his or her sexual orientation or gender identity. He successfully repealed Don't ask, Don't tell which lifted the ban on gays serving openly in the military. He extended benefits to same-sex partners of federal employees. He signed the Democratic-sponsored Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act, which restored basic protections against pay discrimination for women and other workers. This was , of course, after the GOP blocked the bill in 2007.
This is just a few things with which I agree with him. Not to mention what he has done for education and the re-instatement of the USA's good name back into foreign relations.

Please don't assume that I am uninformed simply because I vote for a democrat

You may want to take a look at his history here.....You will notice a large portion of the the latter part of the term he didnt participate....Sorry but IMO when someone becomes senator I expect them to represent rather than just get a free salary..truth be known...the little that Obama did vote he didnt even know what he was voting on.
Many propositions were rejected as well.
Early on he merely voted yes on practically everything.




http://votesmart.org/candidate/key-votes/9490/

 

[The Man]

Ok, I just watched the video...wasted 10 minutes of my life i will never get back

1. REALLY???
2. Obama refused to wear the Flag Pin at a campaign rally not a 9/11 recognition ceremony (re watch your own video)
3. He (while not wearing a small flag pin) gave his stump speech in front of a row of...wait for it...full size AMERICAN FLAGS!!!
4. Nothing in this video, despite how ridiculously clipped together it was, ever proved Obama was a Muslim!!
5. I respected Obama's stance on freedom of religion, and appreciation for other culture more watching this propaganda-laden garbage than I have before, as he consistently recited that our war is not with Islam but with a few extremist fundamentalists. HE'S RIGHT!!!

I can not believe that someone actually wasted their time putting this garbage together...no wonder there was a disclaimer...I should sue to get my ten minutes back!!

The flags were already there and he couldnt very well remove them ....he did choose to be a rebel and spat upon America with the refusing to wear the pin.
I have not claimed that the video proves Obama was a Muslim ....I have stated it merely shows his passion for Islam....nothing was proved he is a Muslim.
Now that you mention freedom of religion ...Why is obama not fighting to allow the word god to be in the pledge of allegiance as well as other "god' restrictions that are in place
LOL at a few extremest fundamentalists...funny how a "few" can kill thousands of American soldiers as well as ally troops that has been going on for years,
Do you really think our adequacy is so poor we cant kill a few in several years?
There are different sects of Islam while not all are violent granted...There are very large number that are violent...So yes we are at war with Islam just not all sects

 

[The Man]

And I believe that if you looked a little deeper you would find as well that Islam is not the worship of Mohammad, as he is simply an important prophet, but the worship of Allah which is the arabic word for God...

How does that negate his point?

 

[Joe the meek]

Now that you mention freedom of religion ...Why is obama not fighting to allow the word god to be in the pledge of allegiance as well as other "god' restrictions that are in place
LOL

As mentioned previously, the word "God" was not originally in the Pledge of Allegiance.

I for one don't really care if the word "God" is there or not. It really means nothing to me as I don't think God has a place in our government. Does that make me a Muslim?

I started off as a 13F. Where did you serve your country?

Now we have an idiot judge in Texas who made the comment that we better watch out if Obama is re elected because we may have a civil war. That judge is an idiot. Long story short, people can't get past their hatred and that is what makes me sick about our country. And for the record, I don't plan on voting for Obama and I don't think he is that great of a president, however he may be better than Gorge Bush Jr if that tells you who the republicans have.

 

[Stone]

GW Bush had a stiffie for the Middle East, too.....but it wasn't love

 

[robdawg1]

You may want to take a look at his history here.....You will notice a large portion of the the latter part of the term he didnt participate....Sorry but IMO when someone becomes senator I expect them to represent rather than just get a free salary..truth be known...the little that Obama did vote he didnt even know what he was voting on.
Many propositions were rejected as well.
Early on he merely voted yes on practically everything.




http://votesmart.org/candidate/key-votes/9490/

The latter part of his term he was successfully campaining for president, so I am sure his constituents forgave him his absence, as did the country since he was successfully elected. Senator Mccain also soent his term campaigning if you remember correctly..thats the nature of our political systems.
I also think that you are surmising about what he did or didnt know about when he voted, That is not a fair observation on your part.

 

[robdawg1]

The flags were already there and he couldnt very well remove them ....he did choose to be a rebel and spat upon America with the refusing to wear the pin.
I have not claimed that the video proves Obama was a Muslim ....I have stated it merely shows his passion for Islam....nothing was proved he is a Muslim.
Now that you mention freedom of religion ...Why is obama not fighting to allow the word god to be in the pledge of allegiance as well as other "god' restrictions that are in place
LOL at a few extremest fundamentalists...funny how a "few" can kill thousands of American soldiers as well as ally troops that has been going on for years,
Do you really think our adequacy is so poor we cant kill a few in several years?
There are different sects of Islam while not all are violent granted...There are very large number that are violent...So yes we are at war with Islam just not all sects

If you watch not only the interview clip in the video, but the entirety of the interview he stated that he didnt have to use the pin as a fashion statement to be considered patriotic, the pin is simply a pin, and does not represent his patriotism.
Freedom of religion and Seperation of church and state are both fundamental in government so your argument is a bit moot about "God" in pledge and school.
You sir, are very wrong about our war. We are at war with the Taliban and Al Queda NOT Islam. I challenge you to find ANY official documentation stating that we are at war with a religion and idealism and not established factions. The idea and statements that we are at war with Islam are dangerous and inflamatory, and to suggest as such shows ignorance on your part!

 

[robdawg1]

Well it does appear to be interfering in regard to Iran

How so? Our policy about Iran hasnt changed in the slightest....

 

[robdawg1]

How does that negate his point?

because based on the original statement it would still be "In God We Trust" despite being Jewish, Muslim, Or Christian....
Besides it was just a clarification based on his misstatement.

 

[Joe the meek]

You sir, are very wrong about our war. We are at war with the Taliban and Al Queda NOT Islam. !

Some people refuse to see the difference.

The sand box has been at war for centuries and is accustomed to dealing with people who want to occupy their land. Pretty sad and arrogant of the US to think that we are going to win the hearts and minds of the people. Don't get me wrong, I was for going in, but not to become a police force.

 

[Accountable]

Why don't you do a little research into that. Our founding fathers were not Christians and they set this country up so the government would be completely separate from religious views.
In God We Trust was NOT originally on US currency. It was added over 100 years after our independence.
Did you also know that the pledge of allegiance had no mention of God until the 60's?

This country my have many Christians living in it, but it's not a Christian nation.

werd.

 

[Minor Axis]

This is a BS example of some conservative adding 2+2 and getting 10. And thanks Man for posting it. I would expect no less from you.

 

[The Man]

The latter part of his term he was successfully campaining for president, so I am sure his constituents forgave him his absence, as did the country since he was successfully elected. Senator Mccain also soent his term campaigning if you remember correctly..thats the nature of our political systems.
I also think that you are surmising about what he did or didnt know about when he voted, That is not a fair observation on your part.

While that may be in part the reason..it can be used as an excuse...after all how long does it take to vote on a bill.
How can a person fulfill a position if they wont even take care of the current one

If you watch not only the interview clip in the video, but the entirety of the interview he stated that he didnt have to use the pin as a fashion statement to be considered patriotic, the pin is simply a pin, and does not represent his patriotism.
Freedom of religion and Seperation of church and state are both fundamental in government so your argument is a bit moot about "God" in pledge and school.
You sir, are very wrong about our war. We are at war with the Taliban and Al Queda NOT Islam. I challenge you to find ANY official documentation stating that we are at war with a religion and idealism and not established factions. The idea and statements that we are at war with Islam are dangerous and inflamatory, and to suggest as such shows ignorance on your part!

If you watch not only the interview clip in the video, but the entirety of the interview he stated that he didnt have to use the pin as a fashion statement to be considered patriotic, the pin is simply a pin, and does not represent his patriotism.

He removed the pin during...the pin is a symbol of patriotism at such event...removing it is unpatriotic...as the sole purpose was to intentionally remove the patriotic symbol....let a military boy try an act of the equivalent and see the consequences...The president is commander in chief

How so? Our policy about Iran hasnt changed in the slightest....

Sure it has...watch the video again..you will hear nothing put praise of Iran .

You sir, are very wrong about our war. We are at war with the Taliban and Al Queda NOT Islam. I challenge you to find ANY official documentation stating that we are at war with a religion and idealism and not established factions. The idea and statements that we are at war with Islam are dangerous and inflamatory, and to suggest as such shows ignorance on your part!

We are at war with Islam....not all sects.
In all actuality the "radical muslims" only started to develop within mine and yours lifetime.
However it is growing very very fast...as the radicals also terrorize what they consider "lesser Muslims"
It becomes a matter of essentially to become one to prevent from becoming a victim.
They are in effect religious police and execute on the spot

We are at war with the taliban and AQ due to their religious beliefs...No one has stated it was all of Islam..I pointed that out prior as well.

Radical islam is on the rise and is growing faster than any other religion Govts have been getting overthrown as well many in progress of such.

Here is a good link that another member gave me a few months ago which shows the problems they are causing and the rapid growth.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_Spring


This only touches the surface.... for instance the Taliban which was the govt in Afghanistan during our time of invasion.
Now about half of Pakistan is under Taliban control...Pk cant control the problem and Taliban controlled areas are becoming larger...thus the reason we are drone attacking there without approval.

In addition to the middle east we are also at war in Africa with various nations although it doesnt get the publicity of the mideast....All of this is based off Islam and their beliefs.

No the idea is not to stamp out Islam..but to try to eliminate the growth of radical Islam which has been growing very rapidly in recent decades
Just as we have different religions which belong to the Christian group each is different...Same with Islam.

At war with Islam...you bet..not just with the moderate Muslims.