Obamas passion for Islam

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robdawg1

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No at all....but yet you are blindly supporting him as you admit you havent watched the video.
No disclaimer needed ;)

I haven't commented on the video, I am just remarking on your comments. I have asked repeatedlyfor the examples of "unpatriotic behavior" and have yet to have them listed as I am unable to view the video.
I don't now nor have I ever blindly supported anyone. I am very informed and aware of who I put my political support behind. This Video, as well as a myriad of other videos I have actually watched are not going to change my opinion.
 

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I have only claimed his passion for Islam and his questionable patriotism.
You are only attacking the messenger...why not assemble the video omissions to show contextual abuse you imply ....they must exist right?

I'm attacking the dirtbag that spent so much time and effort constructing this miserably transparent piece of misinformation. I have no intention of stooping to the level of sleaze in this propaganda, I simply urge people to make an informed decision based on as many credible news agency sources as possible. If The Man, or any other American voter chooses to seek out fringe propaganda that marries up with their fringe opinions, rather than form an informed opinion from a variety of balanced sources, that is their right.

Neither of the candidates in this election is greatly inspiring, but at least they're both head and shoulders better than Bush. America has historically been so evenly split in its political beliefs that the outcome can be, and has previously been, decided by the most politically illiterate 5% of the vote.
Unfortunately there are those who create and distribute garbage like this with the sole intention of swaying those 5% who are entitled to vote but lack the intelligence or the responsibility to make a credible decision.
 

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I did give one example..the refusal to wear the pin.
Also he states himself that he inst patriotic and objects to the idea itself.

To comment on the rest of your post....why do you support him?....Is it because he is a democrat.
Can you show anything in his history to show he was worthy for the job?
Correct me if I am wrong but I think you voted for him as he was a democrat....its common many people do that and always vote for selected party
 

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I'm attacking the dirtbag that spent so much time and effort constructing this miserably transparent piece of misinformation. I have no intention of stooping to the level of sleaze in this propaganda, I simply urge people to make an informed decision based on as many credible news agency sources as possible. If The Man, or any other American voter chooses to seek out fringe propaganda that marries up with their fringe opinions, rather than form an informed opinion from a variety of balanced sources, that is their right.

Neither of the candidates in this election is greatly inspiring, but at least they're both head and shoulders better than Bush. America has historically been so evenly split in its political beliefs that the outcome can be, and has previously been, decided by the most politically illiterate 5% of the vote.
Unfortunately there are those who create and distribute garbage like this with the sole intention of swaying those 5% who are entitled to vote but lack the intelligence or the responsibility to make a credible decision.

I'm attacking the dirtbag that spent so much time and effort constructing this miserably transparent piece of misinformation. I have no intention of stooping to the level of sleaze in this propaganda,

If you claim its contextual abuse and expose it like I ask...How in the hell is that "stooping to the level of a sleezbag"

I simply urge people to make an informed decision based on as many credible news agency sources as possible

And what news sources to you suggest to be credible?...Are you claiming the video is not credible?
If The Man, or any other American voter chooses to seek out fringe propaganda that marries up with their fringe opinions, rather than form an informed opinion from a variety of balanced sources, that is their right.
Dont shout it...show it...where is your balance of documentation to provide as a rebuttal to the video.
Neither of the candidates in this election is greatly inspiring,
This isnt a comparison..this is about Obama.

but at least they're both head and shoulders better than Bush.
isnt a comparison of bush...but rather a documentary of Obama speeches.
Unfortunately there are those who create and distribute garbage like this with the sole intention of swaying those 5% who are entitled to vote but lack the intelligence or the responsibility to make a credible decision

You havent shown it to be garbage......your claims have been hollow.
 

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I did give one example..the refusal to wear the pin.
Also he states himself that he inst patriotic and objects to the idea itself.

To comment on the rest of your post....why do you support him?....Is it because he is a democrat.
Can you show anything in his history to show he was worthy for the job?
Correct me if I am wrong but I think you voted for him as he was a democrat....its common many people do that and always vote for selected party

You are quite wrong. I began to research Barack Obama in 2004 after his stirring key note address at the DNC. I have found a connection to him in his philanthropic work, as well as his strong support of many social programs especially while he was working in inner city Chicago. I continued to follow his Career as a US Senator where he as a junior senator in his first short term introduced a large number of bills to the house as either sponsor or co sponsor, 15 of which became active laws. Most of his bills I sided with which were dealing with energy conservation, health care, Veterans benefits, Ethics, foreign policy, Hurricane relief. This is just in his early days as a national political figure.
As president he immediately made executive financial spending transparent. He Created the post of Chief Performance Officer, whose job it is to make operations more efficient to make the executive office more fiscally responsible. He signed an order banning gifts from lobbyists to anyone in the Executive Branch.
He also has made massive strides in civil rights and liberties. Along with Congressional Democrats, he advocated for and signed the Matthew Shepard and James Byrd, Jr. Hate Crimes Prevention Act, which made it a federal crime to assault anyone based on his or her sexual orientation or gender identity. He successfully repealed Don't ask, Don't tell which lifted the ban on gays serving openly in the military. He extended benefits to same-sex partners of federal employees. He signed the Democratic-sponsored Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act, which restored basic protections against pay discrimination for women and other workers. This was , of course, after the GOP blocked the bill in 2007.
This is just a few things with which I agree with him. Not to mention what he has done for education and the re-instatement of the USA's good name back into foreign relations.

Please don't assume that I am uninformed simply because I vote for a democrat
 

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You just have to watch the video..
Just an example in the video...Obama refuses to wear the pin flag during recognition of the 9-11 tragedy...Of all people the president should be wearing it during such said time.

What the F????

What about wearing something something to remember the day those stinking japs hit us in 1941?
 

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Ok, I just watched the video...wasted 10 minutes of my life i will never get back

1. REALLY???
2. Obama refused to wear the Flag Pin at a campaign rally not a 9/11 recognition ceremony (re watch your own video)
3. He (while not wearing a small flag pin) gave his stump speech in front of a row of...wait for it...full size AMERICAN FLAGS!!!
4. Nothing in this video, despite how ridiculously clipped together it was, ever proved Obama was a Muslim!!
5. I respected Obama's stance on freedom of religion, and appreciation for other culture more watching this propaganda-laden garbage than I have before, as he consistently recited that our war is not with Islam but with a few extremist fundamentalists. HE'S RIGHT!!!

I can not believe that someone actually wasted their time putting this garbage together...no wonder there was a disclaimer...I should sue to get my ten minutes back!!
 

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Here you go, you can join these republicans the vow to overthrow the government if Obama is re-elected. You would fit in nicely.

http://www.politicususa.com/virginia-republicans-call-armed-revolution-obama-wins-november.html

I read it, kind of funny.

If I ever plan on taking up arms against my own government, those I would fight to overthrow would be BOTH Republicans AND Democrats. Sorry, forgot about those tea partiers as well.

If the Republicans think that America is so stupid to place the blame entirely on Obama, they have their heads up their butts.
 

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By the way the US was originally portrayed and founded as 1 main (MAIN) religion
our money didn't say in Mohammad we trust or is the money photoshoped?
 

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By the way the US was originally portrayed and founded as 1 main (MAIN) religion
our money didn't say in Mohammad we trust or is the money photoshoped?

Why don't you do a little research into that. Our founding fathers were not Christians and they set this country up so the government would be completely separate from religious views.
In God We Trust was NOT originally on US currency. It was added over 100 years after our independence.
Did you also know that the pledge of allegiance had no mention of God until the 60's?

This country my have many Christians living in it, but it's not a Christian nation.
 

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By the way the US was originally portrayed and founded as 1 main (MAIN) religion
our money didn't say in Mohammad we trust or is the money photoshoped?

And I believe that if you looked a little deeper you would find as well that Islam is not the worship of Mohammad, as he is simply an important prophet, but the worship of Allah which is the arabic word for God...
 

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I'll stick my neck and and say it was a decade or two before that.

Sorry, my bad. It was 1954.

Still a FAR cry from thinking we are a Christian nation by citing "In God We Trust" on our money or any other mention of God like the pledge of allegiance. Since these were added in modern times and NO WHERE near the founding of our country.

We have had currency without mentioning God in this country than with. What does that tell you?
 

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You guys are not watching the video.
It implies Obama is a muslim...I state it only shows a passion for Islam {which it does}
The main points to be gathered though is his unpatriotic stance for America...While one may expect that from the brat teenager down the street its unacceptable for the commander in chief.
This thread isnt about a birth certificate nor prior allegations of non citizenship but rather his poor example of leadership that he displays

Should he denounce his religious beliefs in order to be patriotic?
 

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Man, if I stipulate that President Obama has passion for Islam ... so what?

Because most Americans are ignorant of the religion and automatically associate it with terrorism, and that's exactly what people who don't like Obama are trying to do.

I don't particularly like Obama and I doubt I'll vote for him, but what some of these "Obama haters" do are beyond stupid.
 

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Just pointing out, of interest only, In God We Trust has been stamped on US coins since 1864.
Carry on.
 
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