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Distortions of the truth are fairly common, particularly at the gutter fringes of politics.
a collection of soundbites from different speeches on different days can easily be strung together out of context, and all of the vital information from those same speeches deliberately excluded, in order to project a false impression .It's called lying by omission, and is common to the sleazier elements in all political parties.
A disclaimer is merely a legal device for cowards to hide behind.I say again, the truth never needs a disclaimer.
And as said a disclaimer is common as standard....."pool is for the tenants swim at your own risk" is a disclaimer.
"I didnt write the book but only offer its contents" is a disclaimer
But anyway the direction of this thread is about Obamas patriotism or lack of...my thread is titled "Obamas passion for Islam"....I didnt take the footage and am only showing the footage....thats my disclaimer.

If you are suggesting editing to make it appear that Obama has a passion for Islam when he doesnt..please provide evidence for such
 
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The truth never needs a disclaimer. I'll go with the mainstream concensus rather than this kind of tawdry mud-slinging every time, thanks.

I am not taking a position either way,but you have and have sided with what you call the main stream consensus...So I have to ask what is the main stream consensus that you have took position with.
 

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You havent proven it to be a misconception.
His passion for islam is clear...you should watch the video rather than just the text at the beggining
 

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Honestly all I see is you blindly protecting Obama in a typical liberal fashion rather than accept the balance of documentation
 

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Distortions of the truth are fairly common, particularly at the gutter fringes of politics.
a collection of soundbites from different speeches on different days can easily be strung together out of context, and all of the vital information from those same speeches deliberately excluded, in order to project a false impression .It's called lying by omission, and is common to the sleazier elements in all political parties.
A disclaimer is merely a legal device for cowards to hide behind.I say again, the truth never needs a disclaimer.

Ironic that The Man chooses to cherry pick my comments in exactly the same way that this ridiculous piece of propaganda cherry-picks from numerous speeches.
 

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Honestly all I see is you blindly protecting Obama in a typical liberal fashion rather than accept the balance of documentation



yeah how do you compare that? calling liberals blindly obedient and then claiming balance? how very fox news of you
 

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Ironic that The Man chooses to cherry pick my comments in exactly the same way that this ridiculous piece of propaganda cherry-picks from numerous speeches.
Odd that you cherry picked 4 seconds of video from a 10 minute video ;)
And now you call it propaganda.....rather than accept it for what it is ...documentation of Obamas passion for Islam/ and unrelated but included his questionable patriotism.
And yes they cherry picked from numerous speeches...how else do you think they could condense it down to 10 minutes from hours upon hours of speeches.
Do you have anything to offer that the authors are lying by omission of surrounding video?
Perhaps you should have made a disclaimer with said post :tooth
 

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Just FYI the one you are arguing most with wasnt the one who said he didnt watch the video....
I find it funny you claim that supporting a Democrat is blind liberalism...why can't we be informed liberals and still support him?
 

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Just FYI the one you are arguing most with wasnt the one who said he didnt watch the video....
I find it funny you claim that supporting a Democrat is blind liberalism...why can't we be informed liberals and still support him?

I have never claimed that supporting a democrat is blind liberalism
 

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Thanks...for backing my statement ...you might want to toss in a disclaimer;) as there is no way you can turn my statement into the allegation below

I find it funny you claim that supporting a Democrat is blind liberalism

Talk about contextual abuse ...it is pretty bad in this thread...but yet you essentially claim abuse by omission in the video :surrender
 

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Thanks...for backing my statement ...you might want to toss in a disclaimer;) as there is no way you can turn my statement into the allegation below



Talk about contextual abuse ...it is pretty bad in this thread...but yet you essentially claim abuse by omission in the video :surrender


Ok, so it is just being supportive of Obama that is blind, typical liberalism? I cant have an informed opinion, being that my political beliefs sway to the left?
 

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I'm not sure what you are trying to claim here, but then I am not sure that you completely understand what you are trying to claim here either.

The video is pretty much straight out of the Joe Goebbels playbook. Accentuate every reference to your argument, discard every reference that contradicts your argument, present the finished piece of twisted nonsense as fact, and defend it with a straight face however many people call you on it.
 

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Ok, so it is just being supportive of Obama that is blind, typical liberalism? I cant have an informed opinion, being that my political beliefs sway to the left?

No at all....but yet you are blindly supporting him as you admit you havent watched the video.
No disclaimer needed ;)
 

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I'm not sure what you are trying to claim here, but then I am not sure that you completely understand what you are trying to claim here either.

The video is pretty much straight out of the Joe Goebbels playbook. Accentuate every reference to your argument, discard every reference that contradicts your argument, present the finished piece of twisted nonsense as fact, and defend it with a straight face however many people call you on it.

I have only claimed his passion for Islam and his questionable patriotism.
You are only attacking the messenger...why not assemble the video omissions to show contextual abuse you imply ....they must exist right?
 
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