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Mercury

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Are you adopting the puppy to keep it from the gas chamber or from a breeder?

Ultimately the question per the age is how much work do you want to do? (bottle feeding is a pain).

Just a good family dog is the only thing I'm interested in. I would say past bottle feeding stage ... but still under a year. I was asking to see opinions on how young should a dog be to be comfortable enough about its history. Just to see what people's opinions are.

mine is five years old been retired from racing for 2 years now and is as lazy as sin, after a 30 min walk he wants to go home, all he does all day is lounge on the couch, the idea that they need a ton of exercise is a misconception that i had before i looked into it

Wow so he actually did racing then? Now just a "retired" happy doggy. :)
 

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mine is five years old been retired from racing for 2 years now and is as lazy as sin, after a 30 min walk he wants to go home, all he does all day is lounge on the couch, the idea that they need a ton of exercise is a misconception that i had before i looked into it

and if its an ex racer its one of the calmest dogs you'll ever have
 

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He is super calm. - greyhounds are smart they have good memories and they seem to know how well off they are once adopted. Race kennel conditions are pretty dire compared to retirement homes
 

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Okay ... found a new one.

3 Month old German Shepard/Lab mix. Male ... neutered.

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Looks like a keeper Merc!

Glad you returned the Pitt. Here's this months pitt bull mauling a toddler story:

http://www.ketknbc.com/news/toddler-fatally-mauled-by-family-dog-grandmother-shot-during-attack

A 16-month-old girl was fatally mauled Tuesday by the family’s dog, and the child’s grandmother appears to have been accidentally shot by a neighbor who was trying to stop the animal attack.

The young girl received multiple injuries to her head and chest. She was rushed to a Las Cruces hospital where she was pronounced dead.

Detectives learned that the family’s dog, a 2-year-old pit bull, attacked the young girl in the backyard of her grandparent’s residence. The girl’s grandmother tried to intervene but she, too, was attacked by the dog.
 

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Yeah, another pit mauling.

Funny how the child being dismembered by the golden retriever mix (what do you know, looks nothing like a "pit") last week didn't make the news.

READ MY LIPS

ANY child should NEVER be left alone with ANY dog, period.

Given the family per Johns news story, the family was as smart as the dog for leaving the child alone with the dog to begin with while only having the grandmother at the location.
 

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Yeah, another pit mauling.

Funny how the child being dismembered by the golden retriever mix (what do you know, looks nothing like a "pit") last week didn't make the news.

READ MY LIPS

ANY child should NEVER be left alone with ANY dog, period.

Given the family per Johns news story, the family was as smart as the dog for leaving the child alone with the dog to begin with while only having the grandmother at the location.

Very true, Joe.

The Pit Bull has a bad rep. Society has made the animal look like a monster while in reality it all depends on the individual dog (any breed) and MAINLY on that dog's treatment, training, etc.,.
 

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Very true, Joe.

The Pit Bull has a bad rep. Society has made the animal look like a monster while in reality it all depends on the individual dog (any breed) and MAINLY on that dog's treatment, training, etc.,.

Generally speaking, if you DIG into the actual story of a dog attack, rarely is it a on/off mode on the dogs part where the attack came from "no where".

There are MANY aspects of the dogs environment that can play a role in an aggressive act.
 

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Yeah, another pit mauling.

Funny how the child being dismembered by the golden retriever mix (what do you know, looks nothing like a "pit") last week didn't make the news.

Damn Joe - you're not one of those irrational pitt bull defenders are you? Explain why at least twice a month there's a pitt bull mauling but rarely if ever a retriever mauling. I challenge the veracity of your claim about a GR dismembering that baby as if it is remotely comparable to the hundreds of pitt bull maulings that have been reported over the last 30+ years. It's a ridiculous comparison Joe and you KNOW it.

ANY child should NEVER be left alone with ANY dog, period.

Totally agree.

Given the family per Johns news story, the family was as smart as the dog for leaving the child alone with the dog to begin with while only having the grandmother at the location.

It's not always the humans fault Joe - this child was with her grandmother - not left alone with the dog. Pitt bulls have a DOCUMENTED history of attacking people out of the blue. Sometimes it's simply the breed - the meddling of humans into canine genetics for human egotistical or monetary gain - that creates breeds that should not have been created and should be stopped. There has to be limits. You can't keep lions, tigers and bears as pets without special permits. So why not require permits to own known dangerous breeds?

And as an afterthought - WTF would anyone desire to own a dog that you always have to be on-guard with? It looks to me like pitt bull defenders have some kind of ego issues given some of the irrational things they say in defense of these extremely dangerous dogs.
 

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John I think it depends upon the breeder of the pit bull along with the owners ability to train and handle a dog

And I think you need to take into account the number of pit bulls out there.

Sure there are a lot of pit bull attacks. No doubt about that.

I think though per capita you might find other breeds with a similar track record but there just are not as many of dogs of those breeds out there
 

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It's not always the humans fault Joe - this child was with her grandmother - not left alone with the dog.

It was reported that the girl was left ALONE with the dog in the back yard by the grandmother, and that the grandmother came to the child's aid during the attack.

Also reported that the home was owned by the grandmother.

Noted that the same owner of the dog in question had been attacked by one of it's dogs in the past.

Give me ANY dog, and for worse, over a period of time, I can make that dog a threat to people, although I will NEVER do something like that.

Problem is (and yes, I have common sense) a 5 lb dog may be aggressive, but due to it's size, physical bodily damage to a human will be minimal as compared to a 50 lb dog with a good set of jaws who shows the same type of aggression.

Generally speaking, the general public has some very "interesting people". I'm amazed at the lack of training parents give their children when approaching a strange dog (let alone asking permission first to approach the dog in a close contact). Do you realize how much you increase the odds of getting bit by a strange do just by the way your hand is extended to a strange dog?

When I'm out in the general public with any dog, I'm ALWAYS on guard. I'm also always on guard when socializing with a strange dog not familiar with me.

Any dog that I've had as an adult "found me" where I didn't go out looking for it, including the bully breed.

Been around and trained enough dogs to realize that dogs, like people, are easily stereotyped. You have a better chance of being bit by your own dog than by a dog trained by a professional dog fighter.

AA also brings up a valid point about the number of dogs out there (and how that can correlate to the statistics of dog attacks). I'm old enough to remember when the "dangerous breed of the day" was once dobermans as well as some other breeds making the news. That was before the bully breed became popular.

Then again, due to the animal rescue work I've done in the past, I'm not a proponent of breeding ANY dog due to the overwhelming number of dogs already out there that don't have homes. I cringe a little harder when I read cardboard signs on a telephone pole that read "pit bull puppies for sale". Let you in on a secret...a top tier, good, quality breeder will not allow you to breed their puppies. A decent breeder at worst will make you work to get one of their dogs other than just handing over cash to get the dog. Long story short, we have to many idiots trying to make a quick buck selling dogs. Sadly enough, NC recently rejected a bill that would make dog breeding tougher. Imagine that.
 
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Where I work, I see more pitbulls walking on the sidewalk than humans half the time, this also goes for a few other urban areas I've visited. You know who is walking them? Basically gang guys, drug addicts- people who can hardly take care of themselves let alone a powerful large dog. You know who else they usually have with them? Some poor child.

I really think WHO is buying/owning pitbulls is as important as the breed's temperament itself. Surely you have to think in stereotypes for this, so it's not a hard and fast truth, but I think it does sway the data on dog attacks.

Pitbulls are quite often street accessories. These people aren't training them and they're sure as hell not watching their children with the dogs. I think this accounts for a lot of those maulings.
 

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You know ... this got me thinking.

The ONLY dog I have ever been bitten by is a Chow. Three different Chows, three different times.

... Not a fan of those now. LOL!

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