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TommyTooter

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In your opinion.

Frankly, they're pretty similar. I can navigate the Mac os because I am used to windows, it seems to me that over the years Mac has made a conscience effort to "Windofy" their GUI.

it's my understanding that both the mac gui and the windows gui were derived from the X WINDOWS GUI developed by xerox at palo alto.

i have no trouble stepping up to a mac and finding my way around inside it. they've always seemed to be slower and have less storage than the current pc models and they always cost more. that's a big turn off right there. less machine for more money? nuh-unh!
 

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In terms of customisation, macs are a nuisance to customise because you'r not supposed to. As it was said earlier here, if thats what you are after you get something else.

part of OSX's stability is that it doesn't have to worry with being compatible with all sorts of third party rubbish that people inevitably stick in their machines. Teckies may know what they are doing, good for them but the majority of people who open a computer don't know as much as they think they do and will frequently bugger it up. The high end macs are highly customisable because only professionals and companies with trained staff buy them.
For everyone else, the ethos of macs 'just working' is primary. Allowing it to just work doesn't involve thrusting a screwdriver inside.
The standard home consumer will only ever need to double the RAM after two or three years
 

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In terms of customisation, macs are a nuisance to customise because you'r not supposed to. As it was said earlier here, if thats what you are after you get something else.

part of OSX's stability is that it doesn't have to worry with being compatible with all sorts of third party rubbish that people inevitably stick in their machines. Teckies may know what they are doing, good for them but the majority of people who open a computer don't know as much as they think they do and will frequently bugger it up. The high end macs are highly customisable because only professionals and companies with trained staff buy them.
For everyone else, the ethos of macs 'just working' is primary. Allowing it to just work doesn't involve thrusting a screwdriver inside.
The standard home consumer will only ever need to double the RAM after two or three years

I might be misunderstanding u but pls correct me if I am wrong about how I understand customization of Macs. I customized mine and all one needed to do was tell them what your needs are and they give you options. Unless, of course, it's much more difficult maybe for this to be done when you're in another country?? :dunno.

However, i disagree tho in re: to the higher end Macs are the highly customizable ones. Mine is just the basic Macbook that starts @ $999 and depends on what customization one does which one can add anything- will just be added to the basic price. So it's feasible with any Mac :surrender :D
 

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I might be misunderstanding u but pls correct me if I am wrong about how I understand customization of Macs. I customized mine and all one needed to do was tell them what your needs are and they give you options. Unless, of course, it's much more difficult maybe for this to be done when you're in another country?? :dunno.

However, i disagree tho in re: to the higher end Macs are the highly customizable ones. Mine is just the basic Macbook that starts @ $999 and depends on what customization one does which one can add anything- will just be added to the basic price. So it's feasible with any Mac :surrender :D

What I really meant by customisation, is that you can add the odd bits like graphics cards or have a completely new motherboard. You can add things like a soundcard that would be suited towards your needs. The list is endless to a point but I hope you can get the drift as to what I am getting

I am not sure about this third party driver issues, as what works on a pc should work fine on a mac. The thing is with PC, because it is more popular than the mac, and I am talking about the Windows operating system, you do get a lot of viruses, who has even heard of a Linux based system getting a virus? So it can't be down to hardware drivers, it is down to the fact that Windows was in the beginning was put together with no security in mind, in XP/Vista they tried to add on extra security, it failed to make any impact on security holes. Admittedly Windows 7 isn't perfect in that sense, but is a lot better than the previous attempts to secure the operating system.

If and when the Mac ever gets popular, I swear they will have the same problems with viruses as windows does
 

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Trust me, if Apple had their way, the limited alternatives for bits and pieces in Macs would be restricted to two or three specifications, like a french menu.

You can buy them with slightly higher clock speeds or bigger hard drives, and a few other bits and pieces, but only at the point of purchase. Barr the Mac Pro, there pretty much designed not to let you get inside halfway through its operational lifespan and switch graphics cards as Tuffdisc said

Windows, is full of security holes because its dreadful, and its the monopoly that the OS has that allows them to develop the system in such an odd way, i don't know enough about it to go on but OSX is as secure as it is because of its solid UNIX roots.

I would argue popularity has nothing to do with it, there were viruses for OSX's predecessor OS9 and that was in the days when Macs were a fraction of their popularity.
 

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pc. mac seems to be a little complicated

There are free classes offered at the Apple Stores to learn more about the Macs with hands on and return demos etc. After you've learned the basics and get used to it- it's actually a lot simpler and faster than a PC. I am not tech savvy but am able to work it :nod: There are also video tutorials available online ;)
 

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There are free classes offered at the Apple Stores to learn more about the Macs with hands on and return demos etc. After you've learned the basics and get used to it- it's actually a lot simpler and faster than a PC. I am not tech savvy but am able to work it :nod: There are also video tutorials available online ;)

Very true. Once you get your head around the differences between OS X and windoze, you find that most things are far easier and quicker to achieve on a mac.
 

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There are free classes offered at the Apple Stores to learn more about the Macs with hands on and return demos etc. After you've learned the basics and get used to it- it's actually a lot simpler and faster than a PC. I am not tech savvy but am able to work it :nod: There are also video tutorials available online ;)

Tbh, I did try at the store with no free lessons, I find it indifference to the Windows based pc, just that the mouse is really awkward to use
 

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I have used both for over 20 years. They both have their places and functions, but my personal preference for desktop computing is Mac. Apple has always been really heavy in the education arena so you see a lot of schools using them, ever since the iPhone and iPod you see a huge spike of Mac users amongst the college crowd. Just bought my wife a MacBook pro and it was her first apple, but she loves it and I no longer have to rebuild her computer after she uses popular social networking sites. Windows Vista was a flop, and they have something going with windows7 but they are too late. IE is not even the most popular browser anymore.
 

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I have used both for over 20 years. They both have their places and functions, but my personal preference for desktop computing is Mac. Apple has always been really heavy in the education arena so you see a lot of schools using them, ever since the iPhone and iPod you see a huge spike of Mac users amongst the college crowd. Just bought my wife a MacBook pro and it was her first apple, but she loves it and I no longer have to rebuild her computer after she uses popular social networking sites. Windows Vista was a flop, and they have something going with windows7 but they are too late. IE is not even the most popular browser anymore.
:homo: I agree ! As a student myself, I appreciate Apple's education programs- donating laptops to schools and Universities/Colleges. Never had any problems with Macs functioning well. It's very reliable :nod:
 

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I have used windows for a long time and got tired of all the blue screens of death and virus issues. I finally bought a macbook last september and its been a really great experience ever since. I bought a program called parallel desktops which allows me to run windows within a virtual desktop. I only use it when I have to for school or if there is something that I can only do on windows.
 

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I have used windows for a long time and got tired of all the blue screens of death and virus issues. I finally bought a macbook last september and its been a really great experience ever since. I bought a program called parallel desktops which allows me to run windows within a virtual desktop. I only use it when I have to for school or if there is something that I can only do on windows.

Cool!! another Mac enthusiast :D

Thanks for the info re: Parallel desktop program. Altho' i don't need it atm, it's something to keep in mind for future need :nod: Thanks.
 

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Tbh, I did try at the store with no free lessons, I find it indifference to the Windows based pc, just that the mouse is really awkward to use

Maybe it varies per location eh? The store nearest my place offers classes. You can call 1-800-MY-APPLE and ask which store nearest you offers them. The customer service rep can even actually check the schedules for you and set up the classes per your availability :)

Mouse? I thought I've seen different types of mouse? No? I have a laptop ( Macbook) so i dont really have any experience as to the use of Mac mouse. Good luck :D
 
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