Leaving out ALL ethical issues stem cells vs. war on terror.

[Goat Whisperer]

This topic is not about terrorist's, or the crimes that terrorists have committed. It is about the amount of our American soldiers who have died, to the amount of people who could of lived if stem cell research.

 

[IntruderLS1]

We haven't lost that many soldiers in Iraq.

Plus, you're comparing it to something that may or may not yield medical advances. Many people out there would have you believe that stem-cell research will make the blind see, and the paralyzed walk, but that is entirely hypothetical at this point.

I think the field holds promise, but not more so than any other. Quite the opposite in fact.

 

[Goat Whisperer]

We haven't lost that many soldiers in Iraq.

Plus, you're comparing it to something that may or may not yield medical advances. Many people out there would have you believe that stem-cell research will make the blind see, and the paralyzed walk, but that is entirely hypothetical at this point.

I think the field holds promise, but not more so than any other. Quite the opposite in fact.

Both reasons why me and my friend stopped arguing about it 2 pages ago.

 

[gLing]

There was no specification if it was embryonic stem cells so defeat the terrorists and use their stem cells. Which means drawing some blood or bone marrow and sending them home to suicide bomb another day.

 

[Goat Whisperer]

There was no specification if it was embryonic stem cells so defeat the terrorists and use their stem cells. Which means drawing some blood or bone marrow and sending them home to suicide bomb another day.

*is confused*
What?

 

[gLing]

*is confused*
What?

That was my reaction. WHAT??

 

[Goat Whisperer]

There was no specification if it was embryonic stem cells so defeat the terrorists and use their stem cells. Which means drawing some blood or bone marrow and sending them home to suicide bomb another day.

No see that there ^^^^ has some sort of spelling mistake or something, cuz I have no Idea wat says...

 

[gLing]

No see that there ^^^^ has some sort of spelling mistake or something, cuz I have no Idea wat says...

I suppose the spell check fooled me and I was speaking Greek. :willy_nilly:

 

[charLIE2291]

No see that there ^^^^ has some sort of spelling mistake or something, cuz I have no Idea wat says...

:smiley24:

 

[Goat Whisperer]

I suppose the spell check fooled me and I was speaking Greek. :willy_nilly:

Well it still doesn't make very goo sense, maybe you should rephrase it?:confused

 

[All Else Failed]

In other words the extremists are throwing canon fodder at us in desperation.

No? Our being there just creates more resentment towards us, which spreads among the people.

Im not sure its such a good thing in the long run...and no, it has nothing to do with religion.

....its been shown to grow back important organs, has shown promise at curing diseases and they even have some data that shows that it might be able to cure some forms of cancer.

 

[gLing]

No? Our being there just creates more resentment towards us, which spreads among the people.

Again resentment for what? Destroying a dictator that has committed genocide and fed his political opponents into wood chippers? Or perhaps they resent us for fighting the taliban who abuse and oppress women. Again if they resent us for that then they were already terrorists long before we got there.

Afghani women: "Gee I wish I could go outside or read a book without the worry of being beaten or murdered for it.

American Troops: "You are free to goto school and walk around outside now!"

Afghani women: "You evil Americans! How dare you free me! I liked being an abused slave! Since you freed me I am becoming a terrorist and will punish you for it!"

:smiley24:

 

[charLIE2291]

....its been shown to grow back important organs, has shown promise at curing diseases and they even have some data that shows that it might be able to cure some forms of cancer.

I do wonder about teh social ramifications of this tech would be. Would it be available to everyone or just the rich and powerful, would insurance cover it. Then i wonder about the long term impact of an increase in population around the world would have on planet earth.

 

[Goat Whisperer]

I am for stem cells, but, they are not perfect. Probably the biggest problem is that we can always get them to stop growing and they turn in to tumors sometimes.

 

[IntruderLS1]

Afghani women: "Gee I wish I could go outside or read a book without the worry of being beaten or murdered for it.

American Troops: "You are free to goto school and walk around outside now!"

Afghani women: "You evil Americans! How dare you free me! I liked being an abused slave! Since you freed me I am becoming a terrorist and will punish you for it!"
:smiley24:

LOL You just don't understand Gina.

FWIW, an "Afghani" is a form of currency. An "Afghan" is a citizen of Afghanistan. :nod:

(Not super important, but fun to know)

 

[gLing]

LOL You just don't understand Gina.

FWIW, an "Afghani" is a form of currency. An "Afghan" is a citizen of Afghanistan. :nod:

(Not super important, but fun to know)

Well I was close!

 

[Peter Parka]

Seems a strange comparison to me. You can be for or against both of them without a clash of interests. I really don't see a situation where one has to be abolished in favour of the other.

 

[Goat Whisperer]

Seems a strange comparison to me. You can be for or against both of them without a clash of interests. I really don't see a situation where one has to be abolished in favour of the other.

We were trying to decide if a politician who was for stem cell research or for ending the war would be more usefull.

 

[All Else Failed]

Again resentment for what? Destroying a dictator that has committed genocide and fed his political opponents into wood chippers? Or perhaps they resent us for fighting the taliban who abuse and oppress women. Again if they resent us for that then they were already terrorists long before we got there.

Afghani women: "Gee I wish I could go outside or read a book without the worry of being beaten or murdered for it.

American Troops: "You are free to goto school and walk around outside now!"

Afghani women: "You evil Americans! How dare you free me! I liked being an abused slave! Since you freed me I am becoming a terrorist and will punish you for it!"

:smiley24:

Resentment for trying to run their culture. I'm not denying that its a good thing that Saddam is gone, its good. I'm talking about how we basically go around ordering the entire world what to do. We've been doing it for a while now. I'm not just talking about the middle east.

 

[Peter Parka]

We were trying to decide if a politician who was for stem cell research or for ending the war would be more usefull.

A politician can only be for one or the other?:unsure: