I believe...God is a man

[Godsloveapples]

How are you defining "right"?

That there is nothing wrong in it. That it's perfect.

 

[gillibean]

That there is nothing wrong in it. That it's perfect.

Except maybe that it's based on an irrational assumption.

 

[Breath]

I think humans are smart enough to realize which one is right.

HUH? Which one is right?

Islam ofcourse.

With all due respect, you cannot state that yours IS right.

How did you come up with Islam being correct over all other religions and non religions?

Ok. Read over what I said. Did I say ISlam is the right religion for all of you? I just said that Islam is right. I think it's obvious that I was stating my opinion.

Sorry, your point wasn't obvious. You clearly stated that HUMANS are smart enough to realize which is right. You didn't say that you believed it was right for you, or that others with faith could also believe theirs was right for them.
But if you've rethought your exact words and agree that what is right for you is not necessarily right for me, or anyone else, then I'll chalk this up to lack of precise communication on your part.

 

[Minor Axis]

No. We know which religion is right after reviewing it and understanding it. I.e. there are 3 different words, 2 are misspelled and one is right. I think humans are smart enough to realize which one is right.

You feel you have got it figured out and it makes you feel good. That's ok with me. But when it comes to spiritual issues I don't know how to spell all the words. Seriously, I don't think mankind has the information or the capacity to properly evaluate the afterlife when all we have to go on are vague guesses about what could be.

 

[pladecalvo]

Ok, obviously there WAS a creation because that big bang theory is wrong.

It's not "obvious" at all. Even if big bang is wrong it doesn't automatically follow that the only other option is that 'god did it'. There may be thousands of other causes for why the universe exists that we are, as yet, unaware off. Gods may be a possibility...they are not a foregone conclusion. What you are saying is 'we don't know how we got here so that can only mean that we were created by an invisible entity'. That's absolute nonsense!

No, we have more than enough proof to show that God exists.

We don't have any "proof" whatsoever. That's why you are told that you must have faith in order to believe that your god exists. If there was any "proof" then faith would not be necessary would it?

I wonder why Atheists think that God doesn't exist.

For the same reason you don't think fairies, mermaids, goblins, three headed elephants and Santa Claus exist. There is no evidence to support belief in them. You like me are atheist. You don't believe Zeus, Mithra, Amun-Ra, Brahma, Krishna or Horus exist do you? You are atheist in respect of all those gods. We just have one more god on our list than you have on yours.

We know for a fact that God exists because of the feelings and emotions we have.

Then you should acknowledge that Brahma exists because of the feeling and emotions that Hindus have regarding their beliefs.

If there wasn't a God and we were made from whatever, we wouldn't have emotions,

:24:

The proof is in her faith, which is why you'll never get an answer that satisfies you.

Faith is not proof....it's belief.

Well. I did study it. I found that there is nothing wrong in it. Everything in the Quran is right.

No doubt a scholar of Hinduism would make the same claim regarding the Bhagavad Gita.

 

[Mase]

There is no actual evidence to prove God's existence. And there's no actual evidence to prove God doesn't exist, either. God is nothing but a theory, at this stage. In theory, Every natural thing we see today was created by him. It's not a proven fact.

 

[Obdurate]

There is no actual evidence to prove God's existence. And there's no actual evidence to prove God doesn't exist, either. God is nothing but a theory, at this stage. In theory, Every natural thing we see today was created by him. It's not a proven fact.

But yet people can't just leave it at that. It's the most common argument in the world, it has to be. And all it does is hurt feelings. Or kill time.

 

[fidofetch]

But yet people can't just leave it at that. It's the most common argument in the world, it has to be. And all it does is hurt feelings. Or kill time.

Yes and as everyone knows time must die.

 

[Obdurate]

I prefer to use my time for something better than arguing religion, which I know is hypocritical because I've replied in this thread. I'm just saying that it doesn't affect me if people think God exists or not.

Some people just need to cool down, in general. It's an imaginary It in the sky.

 

[Godsloveapples]

We don't have any "proof" whatsoever. That's why you are told that you must have faith in order to believe that your god exists. If there was any "proof" then faith would not be necessary would it?

Yes we do have proof. One miracle in the Quran is the knowledge. How could anyone have known how the baby forms inside the mothers body 1428 years ago?

Now ask those [who deny the truth] to enlighten thee: Were they more difficult to create than all those [untold marvels] that we have created? - for, behold, them have We created out of [mere] clay commingled with water! (37:11)
Who Makes more excellent everything that he creates. Thus, he begins the creation of man out of clay. (7) the he causes him to be begotten out of essence of a humble fluid; (8) and then He forms him in accordance with what he is meant to be, and breathes into him of His spirit; and [thus, o men,] he endows you with hearing, and sight, and feelings as well as minds; [yet] how seldom you are grateful! (9) (32: 7-9)
Verily, it is We who have created man out of a drop of sperm intermingled, so that We might try him [in his later life]: and therefore We made him a being endowed with hearing and sight. (76:2)
It Is He who creates you out of dust, and then out of a drop of sperm, and then out of a germ-cell; and then He brings you forth as children; and then [He ordains] that you reach maturity, and then, that you grow old-though some of you [He causes to] die earlier: - and [all this He ordains] so that you might reach a term set [by Him] and that you might [learn to] use your reason. (40: 67)
READ in the name of thy Sustainer, who has created (96:1) –created man out of a germ-cell. (96:2)
And [remember:] God creates [every one of] you out of dust, then out of a drop of sperm; and then He fashions you into either of the two sexes. And no female conceives or gives birth unless it be with His knowledge; and none that is long-lived has his days lengthened- and neither is aught lessened of his days- unless is be thus laid down in [God's] decree: for, behold, all this is easy for God. (35:11)
Seeing that He has created [every one of] you in successive stages? (71:4)
O MEN! If you are in doubt as to the [truth of] resurrection, [remember that,] verily, We have created [every one of] you out of dust, then out of a drop of sperm, then out of a germ-cell, then out of an embryonic lump complete [in itself] and yes incomplete, so that We might make [your origin] clear unto you. And whatever we will [to be born] We cause to rest in the [mother's] wombs for a term set [by Us], and then We bring you forth as infants and [allow you to live] so that [some of] you might attain to maturity: for among you are such as are caused to die [in childhood], just as many a one of you is reduced in old age to a most abject state, ceasing to know anything of what he once knew so well. And [if, O man thou are still in doubt as to resurrection, consider this:] thou canst see when We send down waters upon it, it stirs and swells and puts forth every kind of lovely plant! (22:5)
NOW, INDEED, We create man out of the essence of clay, (23:12) and then We cause him to remain as a drop of sperm in [the womb's] firm keeping, (23:13) and then We create within the embryonic lump bones, and then We clothe the bones with flesh- and then We bring [all] this into being as new creation: hallowed, therefore, is God, the best of artisans! (23:14)
He has created you [all] out of one living entity, and out of it fashioned its mate; and he has bestowed upon you four kinds of cattle of either sex; [and] He creates you in your mothers wombs, one act of creation after another, the threefold depths of darkness. Thus is God, your Sustainer: unto Him belongs all dominion: there is no deity same Him: how, then, can you lose sight of the truth? (39:6)
http://miraclesofthequran.com/scientific_57.html
This is more than enough proof for me that God has sent down the Quran to the prophet Muhammad. If you disagree, then it's your choice. Everyone has the freedom to think and choose what they like.

 

[pladecalvo]

Yes we do have proof.One miracle in the Quran is the knowledge. How could anyone have known how the baby forms inside the mothers body 1428 years ago?

Listen Temperamental. I hope you're sat down at the moment because this may come as a bit of a shock to you. There's no other way of breaking this to you other than coming straight out with it...sometimes one has to be cruel to be kind eh?

You ask how could anyone how known about human reproduction 1428 years ago. Well, the Egyptians had a good idea of how it all worked...they even knew what the function of the testicles were. The Greeks, Romans and Chinese knew about it too. So if this knowledge being known 1428 years ago amazes you, you must have had your socks blown off to find that the process of human reproduction was actually understood (in very basic form) as far back as 3000BCE. Just think of that dude......that's 4428 years BEFORE the Quran was even written!!

 

[Mase]

Yes we do have proof.One miracle in the Quran is the knowledge. How could anyone have known how the baby forms inside the mothers body 1428 years ago?

Now ask those [who deny the truth] to enlighten thee: Were they more difficult to create than all those [untold marvels] that we have created? - for, behold, them have We created out of [mere] clay commingled with water! (37:11)
Who Makes more excellent everything that he creates. Thus, he begins the creation of man out of clay. (7) the he causes him to be begotten out of essence of a humble fluid; (8) and then He forms him in accordance with what he is meant to be, and breathes into him of His spirit; and [thus, o men,] he endows you with hearing, and sight, and feelings as well as minds; [yet] how seldom you are grateful! (9) (32: 7-9)
Verily, it is We who have created man out of a drop of sperm intermingled, so that We might try him [in his later life]: and therefore We made him a being endowed with hearing and sight. (76:2)
It Is He who creates you out of dust, and then out of a drop of sperm, and then out of a germ-cell; and then He brings you forth as children; and then [He ordains] that you reach maturity, and then, that you grow old-though some of you [He causes to] die earlier: - and [all this He ordains] so that you might reach a term set [by Him] and that you might [learn to] use your reason. (40: 67)
READ in the name of thy Sustainer, who has created (96:1) –created man out of a germ-cell. (96:2)
And [remember:] God creates [every one of] you out of dust, then out of a drop of sperm; and then He fashions you into either of the two sexes. And no female conceives or gives birth unless it be with His knowledge; and none that is long-lived has his days lengthened- and neither is aught lessened of his days- unless is be thus laid down in [God's] decree: for, behold, all this is easy for God. (35:11)
Seeing that He has created [every one of] you in successive stages? (71:4)
O MEN! If you are in doubt as to the [truth of] resurrection, [remember that,] verily, We have created [every one of] you out of dust, then out of a drop of sperm, then out of a germ-cell, then out of an embryonic lump complete [in itself] and yes incomplete, so that We might make [your origin] clear unto you. And whatever we will [to be born] We cause to rest in the [mother's] wombs for a term set [by Us], and then We bring you forth as infants and [allow you to live] so that [some of] you might attain to maturity: for among you are such as are caused to die [in childhood], just as many a one of you is reduced in old age to a most abject state, ceasing to know anything of what he once knew so well. And [if, O man thou are still in doubt as to resurrection, consider this:] thou canst see when We send down waters upon it, it stirs and swells and puts forth every kind of lovely plant! (22:5)
NOW, INDEED, We create man out of the essence of clay, (23:12) and then We cause him to remain as a drop of sperm in [the womb's] firm keeping, (23:13) and then We create within the embryonic lump bones, and then We clothe the bones with flesh- and then We bring [all] this into being as new creation: hallowed, therefore, is God, the best of artisans! (23:14)
He has created you [all] out of one living entity, and out of it fashioned its mate; and he has bestowed upon you four kinds of cattle of either sex; [and] He creates you in your mothers wombs, one act of creation after another, the threefold depths of darkness. Thus is God, your Sustainer: unto Him belongs all dominion: there is no deity same Him: how, then, can you lose sight of the truth? (39:6)
http://miraclesofthequran.com/scientific_57.html
This is more than enough proof for me that God has sent down the Quran to the prophet Muhammad. If you disagree, then it's your choice. Everyone has the freedom to think and choose what they like.

You should realise that isn't anywhere near proof.

 

[Breath]

I was just thinking. (Yeah, it surprised me too )
What WOULD any of us consider to be proof?

 

[TheOriginalJames]

Physical concious touch, sight, sounds.

 

[skyblue]

god....if he exists is an entity thats in all of us......god would be above being a single sex

 

[luc154]

I was just thinking. (Yeah, it surprised me too )
What WOULD any of us consider to be proof?

There is no real proof. That is, God will only reveal Himself to you if you trust Him and have faith in Him. Then He Himself will give you proof of His existence. The fact that so few people are born again and become children of God is because, even if God would reveal Himself (again), people would just reject Him again as they did Jesus.
I would argue atheïsm is a religion as much as Islam and Hinduism and Christianity is a religion because none of these can prove nor disprove the existence of there gods.

 

[gillibean]

I was just thinking. (Yeah, it surprised me too )
What WOULD any of us consider to be proof?

I would happily accept evidence derived through the scientific method.

 

[luc154]

I would happily accept evidence derived through the scientific method.

You would not. Even if some miracle would happen in front of you, you would still explain it away as some magic tric.

 

[gillibean]

You would not. Even if some miracle would happen in front of you, you would still explain it away as some magic tric.

Don't try to tell me what I would or would not think. That is insulting and presumptuous. If there were empirical evidence derived through the scientific method, I would no more deny that evidence than I would the evidence that nitrogen freezes. It would take an awful lot of evidence to prove that god does in fact exist but I'd believe it if it were place in front of me. I'd have no choice, i can't not believe in something that has been proven to exist.

 

[luc154]

Don't try to tell me what I would or would not think. That is insulting and presumptuous. If there were empirical evidence derived through the scientific method, I would no more deny that evidence than I would the evidence that nitrogen freezes. It would take an awful lot of evidence to prove that god does in fact exist but I'd believe it if it were place in front of me. I'd have no choice, i can't not believe in something that has been proven to exist.

I am not the one who is telling you that you do not accept evidence, Jesus is. He said this in Luke 16:31:
"Then Abraham said to him, 'If your brothers do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be persuaded, even if someone were to rise from the dead.'"
Man by nature does not accept proof of God. It is God that has to draw man to Him in order that man can come to faith.