Gnostic or agnostic

[doombug]

talk about a pot calling a kettle black

Well Alien I don't know what planet you are from but your posts sound like they are coming from Uranus....

 

[doombug]

Thought the exact same thing...

I don't see anyone here answering any questions, especially the ones I ask but if you would like to discuss something then man up and do it. Otherwise stay in the peanut gallery.

 

[Panacea]

talk about a pot calling a kettle black

Step 1. Ask a question intended to shift thread topic to unverified bible trivia it deems fact.
Step 2. Move the goal post.
Step 3. Shift to personal attacks.
Step 4. Bask in self-perceived victory.

Repeat

 

[doombug]

Step 1. Ask a question intended to shift thread topic to unverified bible trivia it deems fact.
Step 2. Move the goal post.
Step 3. Shift to personal attacks.
Step 4. Bask in self-perceived victory.

Repeat

....or just skip steps 1 thru 4 and run away in the middle of a thread only to return and take pot shots......

 

[Tim]

....or just skip steps 1 thru 4 and run away in the middle of a thread only to return and take pot shots......

Take a moment and go back and reread this entire thread.... I'll wait.....

Ok, now that you reread it all, what stood out to you?

Was it the fact that everybody answered the original question and you still haven't???

Nobody has run away from this thread except you. You still haven't directly answered the question. Sure, you skirt around it and go off into left field, but we are still waiting for your input.

So are you Gnostic or Agnostic?

 

[doombug]

Take a moment and go back and reread this entire thread.... I'll wait.....

Ok, now that you reread it all, what stood out to you?

Was it the fact that everybody answered the original question and you still haven't???

Nobody has run away from this thread except you. You still haven't directly answered the question. Sure, you skirt around it and go off into left field, but we are still waiting for your input.

So are you Gnostic or Agnostic?

Those are the only choices? There are other possibilities and I have explained my position before.

 

[Tim]

Those are the only choices? There are other possibilities and I have explained my position before.

You either believe in god/gods or you don't.

And then those two categories can be be broken down a little further...

How is this so hard to understand?

 

[doombug]

You either believe in god/gods or you don't.

Really? Don't tell the Agnostics!!

And then those two categories can be be broken down a little further...

I just think when it comes to spirituality there is more to it than choosing a category.

How is this so hard to understand?

Why is it so hard to understand that I am only interested in truth? Labels don't really tell me anything.Maybe you are upset by someone who rejects the idea of choosing something like spirituality from a menu.

It seems to me that many here see truth as a foreign concept.

 

[Alien Allen]

Well Alien I don't know what planet you are from but your posts sound like they are coming from Uranus....

Real Classy

Congrats

Enjoy your trolling

 

[Johnfromokc]

Well Alien I don't know what planet you are from but your posts sound like they are coming from Uranus....

Real Classy

Congrats

Enjoy your trolling

The Alien from Uranus? :willy_nilly:

Remind you of our earlier conversation today Allen?

Ole dumbbug has no clue of the source of the chuckle he just provided. :24:

 

[anathelia]

Really? Don't tell the Agnostics!!



I just think when it comes to spirituality there is more to it than choosing a category.



Why is it so hard to understand that I am only interested in truth? Labels don't really tell me anything.Maybe you are upset by someone who rejects the idea of choosing something like spirituality from a menu.

It seems to me that many here see truth as a foreign concept.

It seems to ME that you are the only one here who is unable to answer a simple question. Plenty of people, including myself, answered the question in more detail than what the poll proposed. Clearly, it is not as simple as Gnostic/Agnostic as there are several subsets within each, but it's really not that hard to explain your beliefs. And if you don't want to explain your beliefs because you don't think you have to, then don't. But don't come into this thread and start trouble with everyone simply because you don't approve of the thread topic. These are not forced discussions. It is your choice as to whether or not you want to participate. But continuing to fling mud and avoid the entire point of the thread is not participating. It is simply annoying and not accomplishing anything for anyone.

 

[Johnfromokc]

It is your choice as to whether or not you want to participate. But continuing to fling mud and avoid the entire point of the thread is not participating. It is simply annoying and not accomplishing anything for anyone.

I gave up on ole dumbbug posting anything coherent a long time ago. Abandon all hope of intelligent discourse with him.

 

[Alien Allen]

The Alien from Uranus? :willy_nilly:

Remind you of our earlier conversation today Allen?

Ole dumbbug has no clue of the source of the chuckle he just provided. :24:

how could I forget

Don't make this out to think I have a thin skin though

I have a thicker one than you can imagine

 

[doombug]

Well Ol' John just couldn't handle the discussions because he has no answers. There are a few here who can handle it and others who are just afraid of the truth. Here is the bottom line: If what you believe stands up to the test of truth then you will probably have no problem with discussing things if not you will not like it. Which category do you fall into. I find that Atheism and Agnosticism really don't offer much so I'm not that attracted to them. Other than that I have been searching for truth, plain and simple. It seems to me that many here only want to bash Christians and that seems like bigotry to me. You guys don't like it because it is true. If you don't think so then stop belly aching and start discussing and debating.

 

[doombug]

how could I forget

Don't make this out to think I have a thin skin though

I have a thicker one than you can imagine

Well good. How about showing it and start participating in discussions and stop hiding.

 

[doombug]

I gave up on ole dumbbug posting anything coherent a long time ago. Abandon all hope of intelligent discourse with him.

You mean that since I don't agree with you and particicpate in the back patting that goes on you refuse to engage in any debate. You run away like many here which is a sign of not having anything intelligent to say. You only look for excuses not to engage in any debate you know you can't win. Run along Johnny I'm sure you can find someone who will buy into your bulllshit.

 

[doombug]

Remind you of our earlier conversation today Allen?

Ole dumbbug has no clue of the source of the chuckle he just provided. :24:

Talking about others behind their back? Hmmmm... real brave Johnny, real brave.

 

[CityGirl]

“Knowers and Gropers”
by Chet Raymo​

"Karl Popper, the eminent philosopher of science, wrote, "It is imperative that we give up the idea of ultimate sources of knowledge, and admit that all knowledge is human; that it is mixed with our errors, our prejudices, our dreams, and our hopes; that all we can do is to grope for truth even though it is beyond our reach." Four centuries after Galileo, the world is still beset by those who claim access to an ultimate source of knowledge - divine revelation through holy books or prophets. If there is a fundamental way to divide people in the world today it is into gnostics and agnostics, those who Know and those who grope. The former are still in the overwhelming majority, while the latter have meanwhile patiently created the scientific and technological infrastructure of modernity.

It was my pleasure once to visit Thomas Jefferson's home at Monticello. Everywhere one saw books, inventions and the other paraphernalia of a curious mind. Jefferson was an architect, horticulturist, paleontologist, archeologist, author and musician. Among his correspondents and friends were such scientists of the time as Joseph Priestly, Georges Louis Leclerc de Buffon, Edward Jenner, and, well, almost anyone else you'd care to name. He understood well the connection between science and democracy, as articulated by Jacob Bronowski: "The society of scientists must be a democracy. It can keep alive and grow only by a constant tension between dissent and respect, between independence from the views of others and tolerance for them."

With others of like mind, Jefferson laid the foundations of a new political paradigm, one not beholden to ultimate sources of knowledge or the "divine rights" of kings. It was a noble experiment, by and large successful, one that must be continuously defended against those who Know. As I toured the beautiful precincts of Monticello, it was clear I was in the company of a groper, a man by no means perfect, who knew that the perfection of truth was a noble human enterprise, not to be completed in his lifetime, if ever.”

- http://blog.sciencemusings.com/2008_03_01_archive.html​

 

[BornReady]

"It is imperative that we give up the idea of ultimate sources of knowledge, and admit that all knowledge is human; that it is mixed with our errors, our prejudices, our dreams, and our hopes; that all we can do is to grope for truth even though it is beyond our reach."

I like that.

 

[doombug]

.....or people can go for atheism. That way you can define your own standards for justice and truth. Heck, you can justify anything even cannibalism.