for all you atheists out there...
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I don't think Religion has anything to do with having complete faith in God or in his existence, because there are many people who assume themselves as Religious but in reality they are not....
As my dear friend Peter said in his quote that people going to church, temples etc... shud go b'coz it works for them and shud not bother others b'coz it doesn't work for everybody....
It's fine no one has did so unless their has been a topic or point raised on existence of a supreme body known as GOD.
I have said this earlier also , that GOD is not assumable you call him by true heart and he will be their for you but your call shud be true .... and also one more thing we only get those things in life which we deserve so if things doesn't work for you that doesn't mean in anyways to blame GOD or deny his existence !!!! One's faliure is his own responsibility.
Many people are still confused on how to relate with GOD, or rather they are not in a state of mind to know the FACT / REASON before coming to a conclusion to doubt his existence...
So it depends on everyone's personal experience about GOD, so lets hope for the best.
As my dear friend Peter said in his quote that people going to church, temples etc... shud go b'coz it works for them and shud not bother others b'coz it doesn't work for everybody....
It's fine no one has did so unless their has been a topic or point raised on existence of a supreme body known as GOD.
I have said this earlier also , that GOD is not assumable you call him by true heart and he will be their for you but your call shud be true .... and also one more thing we only get those things in life which we deserve so if things doesn't work for you that doesn't mean in anyways to blame GOD or deny his existence !!!! One's faliure is his own responsibility.
Many people are still confused on how to relate with GOD, or rather they are not in a state of mind to know the FACT / REASON before coming to a conclusion to doubt his existence...
So it depends on everyone's personal experience about GOD, so lets hope for the best.
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Magic P
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Peter seems to have a problem with other people believing in God and expressing themselves.
random guy 517
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good point, but that still doesnt give james or anybody for that matter the right to insult other peoples beliefs. im NOT trying to "convert" anyone, but what makes you think you can just call someones morals and life principles false and fucked up? WHO THE FUCK DO YOU THINK YOU ARE? ok. fine. i gladly accept that you dont believe in God, but still...i have more to say
Well by all means, this would be the thread to say it in.
James thinks he is James. Thats his opinion. When you get to know him better, you will know that he isnt being cold. Hes just yer friendly forum arse! lol
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Magic P
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Well by all means, this would be the thread to say it in.
James thinks he is James. Thats his opinion. When you get to know him better, you will know that he isnt being cold. Hes just yer friendly forum arse! lol
Ignorance is a lack of education and knowledge.
random guy 517
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at least show some understanding or some fucking respect if at all possible (i doubt it is). just tell me. what qualifies you to cut down peoples beliefs on a whim? PM me or something. i want to know.
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Magic P
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I second that.
Wut Im sayin is, just cause a cat gets shitty with your idea, doesnt give you the right to get yer panties twisted. I dont agree with Jame's theory.*shrugs* If he believed in them, they wouldnt be mine now would they? I mean, if you believe in what I believe, now would be the time practice the turning of yer cheek. If you catch me. ; )
random guy 517
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random guy 517
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I almost infractioned you, until I saw the smiley.
:eek that doesnt sound good. :eek
Just my two cents:
First of all, I agree with James and Peter.
Secondly, who goes door-to-door preaching and getting in your face? The people who believe in God and the Bible OR the people who don't believe in God and the Bible? We all know the answer to that.
My take on God: Despite anyone saying humans are responsible for sin, death, destruction, hate, etc. *Beep* Wrong!! God is. You can't believe in God and that "he/she/it" will help you resolve problems in a positive way and strengthen you if you don't accept that God also is responsible for all the negative. If God is not responsible for negative things, who is? Satan? Who created Satan? God did, of course. According to the God-fearers, God is responsible for creation of all living things; therefore "he/she'it" is responsible for what those living things do.
You can't pick and choose what to believe from the Bible; it's either all or nothing. You also can't say God does certain things, but doesn't do other things. Again, it's all or nothing; stop picking and choosing.
And as far as morals people have, you don't need God or religion to have good morals and be a good person. It is your choice how to act; if you can't think for yourself and have to rely on a fictional book, (which was written after this so-called Jesus character died by a bunch of men), then you are not in control of yourself. Being in control of yourself, being able to make decisions and take steps, without consulting a fictional book or asking a so-called man-of-God, (read: Priest, Preacher, Reverend, etc.), is the true test of power in yourself.
**Okay, haters: pile on, spew the diatribes about me burning in Hell!!
First of all, I agree with James and Peter.
Secondly, who goes door-to-door preaching and getting in your face? The people who believe in God and the Bible OR the people who don't believe in God and the Bible? We all know the answer to that.
My take on God: Despite anyone saying humans are responsible for sin, death, destruction, hate, etc. *Beep* Wrong!! God is. You can't believe in God and that "he/she/it" will help you resolve problems in a positive way and strengthen you if you don't accept that God also is responsible for all the negative. If God is not responsible for negative things, who is? Satan? Who created Satan? God did, of course. According to the God-fearers, God is responsible for creation of all living things; therefore "he/she'it" is responsible for what those living things do.
You can't pick and choose what to believe from the Bible; it's either all or nothing. You also can't say God does certain things, but doesn't do other things. Again, it's all or nothing; stop picking and choosing.
And as far as morals people have, you don't need God or religion to have good morals and be a good person. It is your choice how to act; if you can't think for yourself and have to rely on a fictional book, (which was written after this so-called Jesus character died by a bunch of men), then you are not in control of yourself. Being in control of yourself, being able to make decisions and take steps, without consulting a fictional book or asking a so-called man-of-God, (read: Priest, Preacher, Reverend, etc.), is the true test of power in yourself.
**Okay, haters: pile on, spew the diatribes about me burning in Hell!!
random guy 517
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why do you call the Bible fictional? what do you know? you cant prove if the Bible is fake...nobody can, so dont say it is.
again, no respect.
again, no respect.
See, people, this is one of the things I'm talking about!!
People who believe in the Bible are allowed to get in your face and tell you what THEY believe in and what YOU should believe in, but the second you tell a Bible-thumper that you don't believe in the Bible, they tell you you have no respect and to keep your mouth shut.
So only certain people are allowed to have opinions; everyone else shut-up? Is that how Christians, God-fearers, Mormons, Bible Thumpers, etc. are told to act? Believe me, this IS the way a big majority of them act and believe. Only if you believe in God and the Bible are you superior and moral; all other people are inferior losers who will rot in Hell.
Message received, loud and clear!!
random guy 517
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what the fuck? when did i tell you what you should believe?
first, youve never met me, you dont know me, dont call me a damn Bible thumper.
second, apparently youre not a part of this religion so why are you saying what we can and cant do? you make it seem like were some superior alien invading race and shit. when did i say you will rot in hell? when did i tell you to shut up? my thing is, dont say something you cant back up. so im not saying for you to keep quiet.
first, youve never met me, you dont know me, dont call me a damn Bible thumper.
second, apparently youre not a part of this religion so why are you saying what we can and cant do? you make it seem like were some superior alien invading race and shit. when did i say you will rot in hell? when did i tell you to shut up? my thing is, dont say something you cant back up. so im not saying for you to keep quiet.
random guy 517
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what i am saying is that if you have any sort of evidence to support your accusations then i will happily recieve them. if not, give them to someone else.
TheOriginalJames
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A 2000 year old book that's been rewritten thousands of times, and skewed to fit beliefs of different cultures, histories and religous leaders isn't necessarily fictional - but it's not something I would call 'gospel.'
You can't prove the bible is real, so don't even try to go down that road with me bro. Hell I could get out my bible and start pointing out scriptures that contradict each other.
If there is an after life and it is eternal that in esence would be hell. Eternal life is not something I would wish apon any body. Take this quote from Our Lady Peace:
"Take death for example.
A great deal of our effort goes into avoiding it.
We make extraordinary efforts to delay it and often consider
its intrusion a tragic event.
Yet we'd find it hard to live without it.
Death gives meaning to our lives. It
gives importance and value to time.
Time would become meaningless if there were too much of it.
If death were indefinitely put off, the human psyche would end
up, well, like the gambler in the "Twilight Zone" episode. "
Seriously you dont want me to really get into this debate, but it really draws me to do so. I will try to refrain. I consider myself agnostic because that is the easiest way to put it without wrighting a book. I believe that there could be forces out there greater than our own but to dwell on it is pointless.
To quote Abraham Lincoln: "When I do good I feel good. When I doo bad I feel bad. That is my religion
"Take death for example.
A great deal of our effort goes into avoiding it.
We make extraordinary efforts to delay it and often consider
its intrusion a tragic event.
Yet we'd find it hard to live without it.
Death gives meaning to our lives. It
gives importance and value to time.
Time would become meaningless if there were too much of it.
If death were indefinitely put off, the human psyche would end
up, well, like the gambler in the "Twilight Zone" episode. "
Seriously you dont want me to really get into this debate, but it really draws me to do so. I will try to refrain. I consider myself agnostic because that is the easiest way to put it without wrighting a book. I believe that there could be forces out there greater than our own but to dwell on it is pointless.
To quote Abraham Lincoln: "When I do good I feel good. When I doo bad I feel bad. That is my religion
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