Do You Believe in the Theory of Evolution?

[IntruderLS1]

Thanks for the info!

Thoughts?

 

[Minor Axis]

Thoughts?

I was afraid you were going to ask that. I need to dig up my Bible, blow the dust off it and check it out. I'm not sure at this point if referring to circles equals understanding the earth is a globe in the heavens. There was a time after Jesus, where I could swear the established authorities pictured the Earth as a flat plane, and on the edges you could fall off into something that might be like space. And after we understood there were the stars, we had to get over the fact that we weren't the center of everything.

But as far as evolution, as far as I know, the only info offered by the Bible is the story of Adam and Eve. If you take it literally, there can be no evolution. If you take it as an allegory, then the story can somewhat coincide with evolution except for the part blaming Eve for all of mankind's suffering. That seems to be the viewpoint of ancient man towards woman, second class status, etc.

I'm wondering if anyone in religious circles has considered the Old Testament to be BS, and the New Testament to be worth following?

 

[GraceAbounds]

I'm wondering if anyone in religious circles has considered the Old Testament to be BS, and the New Testament to be worth following?

No, they are a set - God doesn't change. He is a constant.

 

[Minor Axis]

No, they are a set - God doesn't change. He is a constant.

Honestly Grace, this issue is not about God, it's about what man chose to include in a holy book. The two books have very different view points about God. Old Testament- fire and brimstone, New Testament- love and forgiveness. These two different viewpoints say more about what man imagines about God than the true nature of God.

And how the heck do you know God does not change?? If these books were the word of God, he certainly did change from the first book to the second book.

 

[GraceAbounds]

Honestly Grace, this issue is not about God, it's about what man chose to include in a holy book. The two books have very different view points about God. Old Testament- fire and brimstone, New Testament- love and forgiveness. These two different viewpoints say more about what man imagines about God than the true nature of God.

And how the heck do you know God does not change?? If these books were the word of God, he certainly did change from the first book to the second book.

No he didn't change. Man changed. God is still God. It is not God's fault when man warps God. God loved deeply in the OT. He loves deeply in the NT. There are consequences and punishment in the OT. There are consequences and punishment in the NT. Christ came to fulfill the law, not abolish it. The new agreement does not abolish the old agreement. The new agreement shows how man screwed up the old agreement.

God had man put the Holy Book together exactly how he intended it to be put together, thus why he chose to pay us a visit in person so that we could see the difference, since we were not getting the message on our own.

 

[GraceAbounds]

And you are right ... this thread is not about God, it is about evolution ... buy you asked.

Sorry... can't help myself sometimes ... lol

 

[All Else Failed]

lol
did you even watch the video I posted? because it shows how all that evolution stuff is wrong.

Yes, I watched all of them and they are bullshit. You didn't even watch the videos I posted, because if you did he completely dismantles every argument you have.


I don't see why a lot of religious people think that religion and evolution are incompatible. That guy in those videos I posted is a Christian. There's something called "Theistic evolution". You don't have to believe that god blew into a piece of dirt to "make us". Hell, even St. Augustine said that anyone who takes the bible literally is a fool.

 

[Minor Axis]

And you are right ... this thread is not about God, it is about evolution ... buy you asked.

Sorry... can't help myself sometimes ... lol

I don't know, someone brought up God in an evolution thread. Imagine that.

 

[GraceAbounds]

I know ... IMAGINE! Oh the horror! :eek

LOL!

 

[Godsloveapples]

Yes, I watched all of them and they are bullshit. You didn't even watch the videos I posted, because if you did he completely dismantles every argument you have.


I don't see why a lot of religious people think that religion and evolution are incompatible. That guy in those videos I posted is a Christian. There's something called "Theistic evolution". You don't have to believe that god blew into a piece of dirt to "make us". Hell, even St. Augustine said that anyone who takes the bible literally is a fool.

I watched your videos hon...and like you, I think they're all BS. They use the smallest, most worthless arguments which have all been proven wrong. Religion and evolution are incompatible because religion suggests that there is God and He created everything while evolutions suggests that there is no God and everything evolved. I find it amusing that people still believe in something so ridiculous. If you want to believe that you were once a monkey, then go right ahead, I couldn't care less.

 

[gillibean]

I watched your videos hon...and like you, I think they're all BS. They use the smallest, most worthless arguments which have all been proven wrong. Religion and evolution are incompatible because religion suggests that there is God and He created everything while evolutions suggests that there is no God and everything evolved. I find it amusing that people still believe in something so ridiculous. If you want to believe that you were once a monkey, then go right ahead, I couldn't care less.

Evolution makes absolutely positively NO CLAIMS on the existence of god. They are not mutually exclusive.

 

[Godsloveapples]

Evolution makes absolutely positively NO CLAIMS on the existence of god. They are not mutually exclusive.

It as good as makes a claim that God doesn't exist. If there is God, then He created everything as it is, He didn't let it evolve. Besides, why would He even want it to evolve, he has the power to create anything.

 

[All Else Failed]

I watched your videos hon...and like you, I think they're all BS. They use the smallest, most worthless arguments which have all been proven wrong. Religion and evolution are incompatible because religion suggests that there is God and He created everything while evolutions suggests that there is no God and everything evolved. I find it amusing that people still believe in something so ridiculous. If you want to believe that you were once a monkey, then go right ahead, I couldn't care less.

 

[COOL_BREEZE2]

 

[Minor Axis]

Religion and evolution are incompatible because religion suggests that there is God and He created everything while evolutions suggests that there is no God and everything evolved.

That's your problem, evolution does no such thing.

 

[Minor Axis]

Wait just a minute, you look just like Peter Parka, I mean Parker.

 

[gillibean]

That's your problem, evolution does no such thing.

:homo:

 

[COOL_BREEZE2]

Wait just a minute, you look just like Peter Parka, I mean Parker.

Have some pity. I'm crying for christ's sake.

 

[ssl]

I would like to partake of the conversation regarding the issue at hand, but unfortunately, as I have long ago discovered, I am not smart enough for the poll, less any discussion.

 

[All Else Failed]

I would like to partake of the conversation regarding the issue at hand, but unfortunately, as I have long ago discovered, I am not smart enough for the poll, less any discussion.

You don't have to be a genius to figure out evolution.


What is evolution and how does it work?