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Stone

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You made the claim you back it.


Admit it, you not only support the use of torture.....you love it.







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I didnt ask if you would condemn the guards...I asked below

"Do you believe we should let any prisoner go that is tired of being confined."




But you went and ahead and responded with comparison above....which means you would be stating being a guard doesnt make it right.

But yet you already condoned torture by definition ...but yet say just because it is a job doesn't make it right.
Why not? you already condoned it{prison being torture}


and by the way, it is blatantly obvious, and a bit crass what you are trying to do here...

this is illogical, and simply a pathetic attempt at redirection...
noone buys it!
 

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And again

For your convenience here is the definition....as you obviously do not know the definition


con·done/kənˈdōn/
Verb:

Accept and allow (behavior that is considered morally wrong or offensive) to continue.
Approve or sanction (something), esp. with reluctance.

When I clearly have stated below





So how the fuck am I condoning torture when this is my official position?
I swear a preschooler could even see I am not condoning torture.


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Also you said you would not condemn someone doing their job when it was legal?

"In 2007 it was reported that the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) was using waterboarding on extrajudicial prisoners and that the Department of Justice had authorized the procedure,[SUP][7][/SUP][SUP][8][/SUP] even though the United States government hanged Japanese soldiers for waterboarding US prisoners of war in World War II."

[SUP]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waterboarding[/SUP]
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You also made an argument that the guys were just doing their jobs but :

"The Court of Military Appeals held that "the justification for acts done pursuant to orders does not exist if the order was of such a nature that a man of ordinary sense and understanding would know it to be illegal.""
[SUP]http://usmilitary.about.com/cs/militarylaw1/a/obeyingorders.htm

so in conclusion, just because it was their job, does not make it right...[/SUP][/SUP]
that the Department of Justice had authorized the procedure

What do you want me to do about it......egg their house?


the justification for acts done pursuant to orders does not exist if the order was of such a nature that a man of ordinary sense and understanding would know it to be illegal


LOL...good luck with that...I mean wouldn't an ordinary man think his orders were legal.
Excuse me sarge...I need to go to the law library and see if I am allowed to do that.

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What do you want me to do about it......egg their house?

LOL...good luck with that...I mean wouldn't an ordinary man think his orders were legal.
Excuse me sarge...I need to go to the law library and see if I am allowed to do that.

LOL at rob

Nice try....fail....the comman man, even uneducated man knows that things like torture, arson, murder, theft....those are illegal...and you can question and refuse those orders....even someone with your "military history" should know that...
 

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Then why is everyone wanting out rob?
by definition it is torture...you were shown the definition.

actually, it is not by definition torture....nice try again with the arguiment on semantics..
you are trying to use the definition of torture as an exclamation to include broad jumps in your "il"logic...
prison confinement in corraboration with conviction of a crime is not by any definition a constitution of torture....

try something better!
 

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Nice try....fail....the comman man, even uneducated man knows that things like torture, arson, murder, theft....those are illegal...and you can question and refuse those orders....even someone with your "military history" should know that...
I was not aware that they were told to commit any of those acts.
 

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Tim you stated I condone torture
Back that claim.
I dont have to answer anything...its your claim

I mean should I call you a midget first without asking.

Either back it or get the fuck out


But you do condone using torture.
And you posted it in this thread.
About 15 pages back.
You aren't fooling anyone that can read.
 

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Just like John
Make a claim without proof.
Stone and Rob as well.

You guys are doing nothing but destroying your credibility.

All over me

Fucking pathetic.

Mass jealousy...I swear ....like a locker room full of cheer leaders.


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actually, it is not by definition torture....nice try again with the arguiment on semantics..
you are trying to use the definition of torture as an exclamation to include broad jumps in your "il"logic...
prison confinement in corraboration with conviction of a crime is not by any definition a constitution of torture....

try something better!

Denial rob.


Definition of TORTURE
1
a : anguish of body or mind : agony
b : something that causes agony or pain
2
: the infliction of intense pain (as from burning, crushing, or wounding) to punish, coerce, or afford sadistic pleasure
3
: distortion or overrefinement of a meaning or an argument : straining
See torture defined for English-language learners »
See torture defined for kids »
Examples of TORTURE

Waiting is just torture for me.
Listening to him can be torture.
 

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*sigh* it is like arguing nap time with a 6 year old....

you are wrong TM

: distortion or overrefinement of a meaning or an argument : straining
See torture defined for English-language learners »
See torture defined for kids »
Examples of TORTURE

Waiting is just torture for me.
Listening to him can be torture.


distortion or overrefinement


don't you know what the highlighted words mean....
don't play semantic word games this late at night TM, you're slipping
 
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