Did man land on the moon?

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youve seen some of the vids ive posted ,i cant be bothered with posting apollo 11 faking the earth from the window or the sun in visors stuff which proves without a doubt that it was faked as itll be ignored .

however,i have one thing to add ,our satellites and telescopes are so powerful now ,added to the satellites which are orbitting around the moon to actually show the debris from the apollo missions ,even the bloody flag ...but why wont nasa show us this positive proof ,because it isnt there ,its in arizona.
 
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Alright Debs, you want opinions? I'm not buying any of it. First, just because there was technology that could have been used to fake it doesn't mean it was. Heck, the technology exists to fake the entire video you posted. Is your video actually using real footage? Because I don't think it is.

Wanna know why? In the middle they're showing two astronauts from Apollo 14. Well, as I've mentioned I'm a space buff. For Apollo 11 and 12 both astronauts wore the same suit. Apollo 13 was the first mission where the commander would wear red stripes to differintiate between the two of them. Obviously, Apollo 13 didn't land on the moon. So Apollo 14 was the first mission where the commander wore red stripes on his suit.

Here's a picture of Alan Shephard before the flight (he's the one in the middle):
AS14_crew.jpg

Note the red stripes on his elbows and knees.

So tell me Debs. Why are they both wearing all white suits in the video? Surely if these people are smart enough to disprove the moon landing, they're smart enough to know which mission the clip came from, right?
 

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I think some of you .. are getting way too involved with this. either believe it or don't .. but you're wrong if you don't.


















just sayin
 

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First off, there's not a single source on this entire site. That makes it pretty shady imo.

[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]FACT: Neil Armstrong is now suffering with mental illness. A direct result of him putting his name forward as the foundation stone for the biggest lie in history. OR it could be that he has become paranoid by the overwhelming number of web sites, exposing him as a liar. [/FONT]

OR he could be old :dunno


[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]FACT: Rumor has it that Apollo 12 astronaut Pete Conrad was going public about the fake Moon landings on the 30th anniversary back in July 1999. He was killed in a motorcycle accident one week before the 30th anniversary.[/FONT]

A rumor isn't a fact :dunno

[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]FACT: It takes the space shuttle 66 hours to reach the International Space Station which is a mere 185 miles above Earth. NASA claim Apollo 13 was 55 hours into it's duration from lift off when it encountered a problem at a distance of 200,000 miles from Earth. Sheesh.[/FONT]

The Space Shuttle has to "chase" the ISS around the Earth, it isn't going straight up for all 66 hours :dunno

[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]FACT: On his web site, world celebrity Uri Geller states that NASA's Apollo Moon pictures have been crudely faked, and asks WHY? Uri however is friendly with Apollo 14 astronaut Edgar Mitchell, so we may ask WHY does he not ask Mitchell himself why the photo's were faked? [/FONT]

What does this prove? :dunno

[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]FACT: President Lyndon Johnson made certain Apollo files classified, with a declassification date of 2026. This is so those involved in the Apollo scam would be long dead and gone, and no one alive to blame. One need not wait 18 years for the truth behind Apollo, as it is already well known. [/FONT]

There's a lot of classified files in the government. How many were made classified? :dunno

[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]FACT: In the early 60's NASA officials, realizing that a manned Moon landing was totally impossible before 1970, met in secret behind closed doors. It was at that meeting they agreed upon a decision to fake Apollo 11, in the hope they would get to the Moon later on, and then shroud the earlier faked pictures for genuine Moon pictures. The reality is they never succeeded with any mission. [/FONT]

Source? Proof? It's not a fact if you can't back it up :dunno

[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]FACT:Arthur C. Clarke referred to Apollo 11 as a "Hole in History". Historian A.J.P. Taylor referred to it as "The biggest nonevent of his lifetime". [/FONT]

And this proves what? :dunno

[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]FACT: NASA had not perfected the lunar landing craft in time for Apollo 11. In 2008 they are still trying to get a rocket to land and take off again, 40 years after Apollo was supposed to have done just that. [/FONT]

Prove it didn't work?

[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]FACT: Film footage taken inside the capsule of ALL Apollo missions, shows a light blue haze, and curvature of Earth through capsule window, when they were supposedly half way to the Moon, and in the blackness of space. This proves that capsule was only in Earth orbit. [/FONT]

The MOON is in EARTH ORBIT! When you go to the moon, you are technically still orbiting the Earth...

[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]FACT: Moon pictures on NASA's web sites are fake, with backdrop scenes pasted. The pictures reveal a black line penciled in where background meets daylight sky, which was blacked out completely. [/FONT]

Where's the picture?

[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]FACT: The LM used on latter missions, was the same spec as the first mission, ie, no modifications. It would have therefore been impossible to carry the rover vehicle to the Moon in the same confined LM, even if it collapsed into a more compact form. [/FONT]

The Rover was stowed OUTSIDE the capsule...

[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]FACT: The lunar rover had inflatable tires which would have exploded if pre-inflated, and there was no air on the Moon to inflate them. Pro Apollo NUTTERS claim the rover had solid wire mesh tires. Yes the rover in the museum had these fitted in the mid 70's when they realized pneumatic tires could not have functioned on the Moon. NASA have had 40 years in which to clear up the plainly obvious mistakes within the Apollo program. Each time some one brings up a query NASA correct it and say nothing, ie, they cannot say why the anomaly was there in the first place. Anyway I have pictures of the rover supposedly on the Moon and it has the SAME tires AND tire valves as the one they used at KSC. In other words it is the SAME one. Early close up pictures of the rover on Internet have CHANGED since the blunder was exposed on this web site.[/FONT]

So where are the pictures?
 

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[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]FACT: It would have been impossible to have a water cooled space suit on the Moon, when outside temperature was already at boiling point of water, there would be no where for the heat to dissipate. [/FONT]

OR the suits could have been INSULATED :dunno

[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]FACT: The LM was suspended from a huge traverse crane based at Langley Research Center, Hampton, Virginia, and was gently lowered at the same time it traversed over a mock Moon surface created beneath it. Check picture on REALITY site, and Channel 4 video "As it Happened" . [/FONT]

They did test the LM numerous times on Earth :dunno In fact, Neil Armstrong was almost killed while testing it on earth, he ejected at the last second...

[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]FACT: Trainee astronauts were also suspended from this huge traverse crane in a horizontal position to simulate reduced gravity. Check picture on REALITY site with the NASA web site picture of Harrison Schmitt tripping up. The unusual high backward leg swing is identical in both pictures.[/FONT]

Coincidences occasionally do happen. But I didn't look at the site after I saw it was owned by the same guy as the first site. You can't reference yourself for a valid reference :dunno

[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]FACT: Film footage allegedly taken by Apollo 8 as it supposedly circled the Moon, is the SAME film used for the Apollo 11 mission, except that film is reversed and run backwards, look for "tadpole like" mountain range. What NASA did was to film the mock lunar surface at LRC, traveling in one direction, then reverse camera, and film surface traveling in opposite direction, as shown in video's. [/FONT]

Apollo 8 was a mission to select the landing site for Apollo 11. So, it would be totally plausible to me that they would go over the same area :dunno

[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]FACT: Film footage showing Apollo missions allegedly circling the Moon, was taken by a rail mounted camera which slowly moved toward a rotating plaster paris model of the Moon. [/FONT]

If this is a fact, where's the proof? :dunno

[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]FACT: James Lovell was reading from a prewritten script in the simulator when he did the voice over for the above film, and referred to the Moon as being "essentially gray, no color, looks like plaster of paris". It was indeed plaster of paris he was referring to, hence the smirk on face of Michael Collins after this remark.[/FONT]

:24: Again, speculation is not a fact...

[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]FACT: Anyone who believes the Moon landings must be "essentially green".[/FONT]

Ok...

[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]FACT:Michael J. Tuttle who composed the fake Moon pictures, used mountain background scenes from the astronaut training sessions in Iceland, and other places, to paste on the genuine simulation pictures. He also digitally composed the 360 degree panoramic shots of fake Moon landing sites for use by NASA. His URL speaks for itself. The majority of NASA's fake Moon landing pictures were taken/composed in the mid 90's, AND NOT in the late 60's as many are led to believe. This was because suspicion was aroused at the time regarding the limited number of photo's available. NASA had to do something rapidly because of the onset of the Internet.[/FONT]

Again, no proof...

[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]FACT: The Saturn V rocket had shed 97% of its weight upon reaching Earth orbit. The remaining 3% was the space capsule placed in Earth orbit.[/FONT]

Rocket fuel is pretty heavy :dunno What does this prove?

[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]FACT: Earth is 250,000 miles from the Moon, yet reflected sunlight from its surface is strong enough to illuminate the darkness on planet Earth. Anyone hovering above surface of Moon would be blinded by the high intensity light reflected back. [/FONT]

Obviously not, since even without the Apollo missions, we've sent plenty of unmanned probes around the moon that weren't blinded....

[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]FACT: In the mid 60's, Alan Shepherd was removed from ALL space missions due to vertigo and meniere's disease. No one in such a poor state of health would be assigned to such a dangerous and complex mission. He was not even on the Apollo 14 mission, which in itself was only in Earth orbit.[/FONT]

Alan Shepherd had a risky new procedure to cure his Meniere's. It took him several years of observation by flight surgeons to get himself back on flight status. Little known fact, Shepherd was originally slated to command Apollo 13...

[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]FACT: Alleged Moon rock is basalt rock found here on Earth. NASA made it radioactive by "baking it" in a radiation oven. If it is genuine Moon rock, then it was brought back by a scoop and return probe. [/FONT]

Neither can be proved. And the "scoop and return" is still in the design phases for Mars. As PT has already said, if they've done it before why are they spending all this money now to do it???

[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]FACT: The monitored radio/data signals were either transmitted from Earth and reflected back by bouncing signal of the Moon, or were transmitted via a leased channel. If a valuable source of monitoring equipment was left on Moon, then it would be used today, and not shut down in the 70's.[/FONT]

I assume by "monitoring equipment" they mean some sort of electronic device. Which probably wouldn't last 30 years on the lunar surface :dunno

[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]FACT: In a TV interview with journalist Sheena McDonald back in 1994, the NASA Administrator, Dan Golden, (alias Dan Dare), openly admitted that mankind cannot venture beyond Earth orbit, until they can overcome the dangers of cosmic radiation. He managed to say this without any mention of the Apollo missions 25 years before, which supposedly went 250,000 miles outside Earth orbit.[/FONT]

Again, the moon orbits the earth dumbass! It's in earth orbit!!!

[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]FACT: Neil Armstrong has NO momento's or photographs whatsoever from his alleged Moon mission, however he has plenty from his test pilot days. There are no photographs of Armstrong supposedly on the Moon, because Armstrong, knowing the saga was fake, refused NASA permission. [/FONT]

Actually, as he himself has admitted, he was the one with the camera the whole time. Which is why there aren't many pictures of him. Because he was taking them. So he couldn't be in them. Just like on Earth...

[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]FACT: In 1969 computer chips had not been invented. The maximum computer memory was 256k, and this was housed in a large air conditioned building. In 2008 a top of the range computer requires at least 64 Mb of memory to run a simulated Moon landing, and that does not include the memory required to take off again once landed. The computer on board Apollo 11 had 32k memory.[/FONT]

So are they saying the onboard computer couldn't have done it? I agree. Which is why they had MISSION CONTROL with hundreds of computers, each dedicated to a different aspect of the flight. It's called *gasp* team work.

[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]FACT: When Apollo astronauts were not in space, they were manning mission control communication for other Apollo missions, this was to limit the number of persons in the know. There were in fact two communication links to every Apollo mission. First was launch control who dealt with communication at lift off, and reentry, however once in Earth orbit communication was handed over to the limited few astronauts manning mission control. Check it yourself on film coverage released at the time. Collins, Duke, Aldrin, Lovell, Shepherd, Schmitt, Cernan etc, are all there on various missions. Lovell himself admitted that there were two communication links to the astronauts.[/FONT]

Yes, normally the CAPCOM (capsule communicator) was a fellow astronaut for many reasons. In fact, they still are today. First off, it's always good to hear someone you know when you're 200,000 miles from home. Secondly, astronauts can probably relate better to a fellow astronaut than they can with a rocket scientist.

 

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[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]FACT: It would have been impossible for the astronauts to get from the Lunar Module to the conical space capsule, as this section was occupied by the 3 large reentry parachutes, which ejected from the conical end.[/FONT]

I'll have to get back to this one later....

[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]FACT: In 2008 NASA does not have the technology to land a man on the Moon, and return them safely. It may be possible in the future, but such a feat is still many, many years away.[/FONT]

Ok. We're not trying to land on the moon in 2008...

[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]FACT: Buzz Aldrin believes he has suffered brain damage as a result of his trip to the Moon. He knows darned well that he never went anywhere near the Moon, and so could not have suffered brain damage in the way he alleges. Aldrin was the only Apollo astronaut who went public, and talked about the Moon landings during the 70's and 80's. The guilt, remorse, and stumbling over awkward questions put to him by the media, have put an intolerable strain on him. His psychological damage is the result of keeping it bottled up for 40 years, instead of getting it off his mind. In Aldrin's book "Return to Earth", he makes a remark that all 6 of them have been made to look fools. Make of this what you will.[/FONT]

Pure speculation...

[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]FACT: Deadly radiation in space beyond the magnetosphere, make space travel impossible. Scientists have not yet found a way to protect astronauts from this deadly radiation.[/FONT]

I'll be back for this one too...
 

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I honestly can't say much about this site, because it's mostly videos that my computer refuses to play. Here's what I can say though:

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Wanna know why the astronaut is lit up on the front? Because the moon REFLECTS sunlight. The sun IS NOT the only source of illumination in these pictures, as the site suggests. The moon reflects sunlight and is therefore another source of light in the pictures. This is why some of the shadows are funky too.
 

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Again. I'm not talking about the technology, but rather the end result.

Besides, you just pointed out a very good reason why the technology from the 60's is better than what they are developing now.
I had a thought yesterday that I realized I've failed to mention. The main engines on the Space Shuttle have throttles. Not the big boosters on the side, but the 3 black ones in the back. In fact, the infamous last transmission to the Challenger from Mission Control was "You are go for throttle up".
 
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