Depression

[memento_mori]

but you don't believe that there are legit mental illnesses that can't be cured by a swift kick in the ass?

some people are just fucked up and need correction to function in society. i'm sure you can understand that if you're thinking of being a psychologist.

 

[Suzie]

Well since I havnt been around, I just kind of scrolled thru the 7 pages of this topic...Ive been on Effexor for the past 2 years... the reason is in the gun thread topic. When I first started taking it, I was out of it for days. I felt like a zombie, I was constantly tired and numb to the world. But to me, it was better then feeling sad all the time. I would rather feel numb then feel the way I was feeling. Anyway, 2 years later, I want to get off of them. And I tried to stop taking them a few days ago, but I found out that was a bad idea to try and do that all together like that. I got really dizzy and light headed. So Im gonna try and wean myself off of them.... or find myself a dr around here to help me out with it.

 

[chris32]

there are but i believe that depression is i dont know its very i would say iffy because a lot of people say theyre depressed but theyre just bored thats what im saying but if i was your phsycologist id know about you and whether or not the kick in the ass was needed or if a pill would do the trick...right?

 

[chris32]

drugs are shit for you i think theyre a last resort no matter what and i think dr is a good idea because cold turkey could be a bitch and if your having trouble with depression maybe itll be too hard to do it cold turkey any way i think you should get the hospital dr first and then check into a place if its neccessary

 

[Suzie]

Well if that post was directed towards me... I dont need a hospital. Im not depressed anymore... Ive been on the meds for 2 years... and I want off. Yeah, I know its not good to stop all by myself... thats why Im not. But Im not in a condition where I need to "check into a place, or go to a hospital".

 

[Peter Parka]

Well since I havnt been around, I just kind of scrolled thru the 7 pages of this topic...Ive been on Effexor for the past 2 years... the reason is in the gun thread topic. When I first started taking it, I was out of it for days. I felt like a zombie, I was constantly tired and numb to the world. But to me, it was better then feeling sad all the time. I would rather feel numb then feel the way I was feeling. Anyway, 2 years later, I want to get off of them. And I tried to stop taking them a few days ago, but I found out that was a bad idea to try and do that all together like that. I got really dizzy and light headed. So Im gonna try and wean myself off of them.... or find myself a dr around here to help me out with it.

I know how you feel, my missus is on Effexor are she is a really cranky bitch if she misses taking it, I'd love to know how you finish taking it without these bad side effects too.

 

[memento_mori]

there are but i believe that depression is i dont know its very i would say iffy because a lot of people say theyre depressed but theyre just bored thats what im saying but if i was your phsycologist id know about you and whether or not the kick in the ass was needed or if a pill would do the trick...right?

there's no question there's a gray area, it's why i started the thread.

shrinks are trained to look for warning signs and cassic behavior, and to give drugs to those people whether they're depressed or not.

but isn't it better to give drugs to too many than too little?

it's a huge industry that gives people jobs, and it helps people who seek it. whether it's an act or not.

i think kicks in the ass come in different ways every day. you don't need to have a perscription for that, just walk out your door.

 

[chris32]

well its just because withdrawl is painful and soo at a hospital to my knowledge they help you with that...soo thats why i recommended it or a place because i thought you were talking as if you wanted off them now and you cant do it.. you know if you were in that condition.. sorry but i really hope you get off them soon because i guess its a better way to live:S?

 

[Suzie]

I know how you feel, my missus is on Effexor are she is a really cranky bitch if she misses taking it, I'd love to know how you finish taking it without these bad side effects too.

Well.. I dont become a bitch if I miss a pill or 2... I just cant function that good. Like this AM, I was helping my parents move boxes and crap around and I realized I missed my pill because I got really dizzy and light headed. When I first started taking it, I wasnt planning on being on them this long.. I was just waiting for that shitty part of my life to pass... now I just want to get off them without the bad side effects. How long has your girl been on them?

 

[Peter Parka]

She's been on it a good couple of years now. She gets the same side effects as you but because she is a bit of a perfectionist and hates feeling ill she gets fustrated and cranky because of this too.

 

[Suzie]

Yeah...it totally sucks. And if she ever finds a way to get off of them... you gotta tell me the secret.

 

[chris32]

there's no question there's a gray area, it's why i started the thread.

shrinks are trained to look for warning signs and cassic behavior, and to give drugs to those people whether they're depressed or not.

but isn't it better to give drugs to too many than too little?

it's a huge industry that gives people jobs, and it helps people who seek it. whether it's an act or not.

i think kicks in the ass come in different ways every day. you don't need to have a perscription for that, just walk out your door.

it is such a dirty industry litterally its like being a legal drug dealer true it does supply a lot of jobs but you have to go to school to be a pharmacist soo why not doing something more moral like become a chef or a fireman ... why make and sell drugs?... also ya everyone gets a kick in the ass everyday but it has to mean something to you... soo no its not better to have people running around with altared minds than being straight and trying to cope... i guess there will always be the cases that are very serious but some people dont even know theyre actually not dpressed:S

 

[Peter Parka]

Yeah...it totally sucks. And if she ever finds a way to get off of them... you gotta tell me the secret.

Will do, you too!

 

[Suzie]

Sure will

 

[memento_mori]

it is such a dirty industry litterally its like being a legal drug dealer true it does supply a lot of jobs but you have to go to school to be a pharmacist soo why not doing something more moral like become a chef or a fireman ... why make and sell drugs?... also ya everyone gets a kick in the ass everyday but it has to mean something to you... soo no its not better to have people running around with altared minds than being straight and trying to cope... i guess there will always be the cases that are very serious but some people dont even know theyre actually not dpressed:S

obviously you make and sell drugs because you think it's moral enough to do it and get a paycheck.

and i'm just going to go back to the "better to medicate the non-depressed that want it than not medicate the depressed that need it" argument for that last one.

 

[chris32]

but how can you say that? ... if you were a garbage man you cant say you pick up garbage because you think your doing a service for the world ... you do it to get paid and because you probably cant do anything else at the moment... people who make and sell drugs dont think about it morally especially not the CEO's .. it is soo easy to get perscriptions and drugs in the states... theyll give them to you like candy.... your drug company represntatives dont have morals ... they have pockets... pockets that would like to remain full do you at least agree on that?

 

[memento_mori]

but how can you say that? ... if you were a garbage man you cant say you pick up garbage because you think your doing a service for the world ... you do it to get paid and because you probably cant do anything else at the moment... people who make and sell drugs dont think about it morally especially not the CEO's .. it is soo easy to get perscriptions and drugs in the states... theyll give them to you like candy.... your drug company represntatives dont have morals ... they have pockets... pockets that would like to remain full do you at least agree on that?

no, it sounds like a generalisation based off of publicised dramatised news reports of corrupted drug manufacturers, popular images of big businessmen preying on the weak, and misplaced moral outrage.

sure it's a business, but they have to put out a good product. and even if the legalities and the patents and the money get in the way, at the end of the day someone who needs the medication will get the medication. and people who are don't really need the medication might as well have the medication, because if they're asking for it it doesn't sound like they have enough confidence in themselves to act normal anyways.

 

[chris32]

i think there is not correct answer to that question its one of those innocent people suffer if you do or if you dont... soo it sucks but i the world today is doing what your saying.. and business owners such as rexal or other drug companies might as well be the actual devil...you cant actually say that they feel guilty for the products they put out most of the time shitty side-affects... its more of do the ends justify the means? for them clearly yes

 

[Suzie]

My brother was diagnosed with MS about 5 years ago... his life totally stopped when he found out. He layed in his dark room in his bed for days. No exaggeration. He went to the drs. who put him on depression med. I dont know where he would be right now if he wasnt on them. So, in cases like my brother, who got the shock of his life and didnt come out of his room for days.. I think its a life saver... And the bad side effects are worth it.

 

[memento_mori]

they are doing a good while doing an evil that you have yet to prove is worth worrying about. until then, i don't think their morals are suspicious.