Birth leave sought for girls: Soon-to-be-moms at High School ask for maternity leave

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Birth leave sought for girls
Soon-to-be-moms at East High School ask for four weeks of maternity leave.
By Jeremy P. Meyer
The Denver Post
Article Last Updated: 01/07/2008 02:00:49 AM MST


Kayla Lewis, a senior at East High School, asked school-board members last month to establish maternity leave for students who are new mothers. (Cyrus McCrimmon, The Denver Post)

Pregnant students in a Denver high school are asking for at least four weeks of maternity leave so they can heal, bond with their newborns and not be penalized with unexcused absences.

The request is unusual in Colorado's public schools, where districts tend to deal with pregnant students or new moms with specialized programs or individualized education plans.

Denver Public Schools has no districtwide policy, leaving it up to schools to work out plans for students to continue their education.

Two counselors from East High School approached the school board last month, saying the policy at their school is unfair and inconsiderate because it forces new moms to return to school the day after being discharged from the hospital or face being charged with unexcused absences.

"My initial reaction is if we are punishing girls like that, that is unacceptable," said Nicole Head, one of the counselors who brought the matter to the school board last month. "We've got to do something."

East High School administrators could not be reached for comment over the winter break, but district officials say they are reviewing the policy on absences to make it "friendlier" to new moms, said DPS spokesman Alex Sanchez.

Kayla Lewis, who is five months pregnant and a senior at East, requested that the board establish maternity leave for students at a Dec. 20 public hearing.

"After you have the baby, your body needs time to heal," the 18-year-old said.

That is true, said Dr. Sarah Grope, pediatrician at HealthOne's Rocky Mountain Hospital for Children in Denver.

"To just assume that two days after having a baby they can go back to school is ridiculous at best," Grope said. "During that time, they should be able to do their schoolwork and give time to bond with their children."
School-board member Michelle Moss was baffled that schools were giving girls unexcused absences after birth.

"It's critical that these young women have a chance to bond with their babies," Moss said. "Maybe we do need a policy. Clearly, as a district, we have to look at what is going on with our young women. We've got to look at the birth-control issues and teen pregnancy and how we best help them deal with it and still graduate."

Denver has one of the highest teen-pregnancy rates in the state. Of every 1,000 girls ages 15 to 17, 54.5 will become pregnant in the city, compared with 24.3 throughout Colorado, according to state health statistics.

The district has a school for pregnant teens and new moms, Florence Crittenton School, but it has a waiting list. Plus, many students want to remain at the school where they started, said Head, the counselor at East.
Cherry Creek, Adams 12, Jefferson County and Douglas County school districts have policies in which students work with counselors and principals to devise plans that will keep them in school.

Several districts have special schools with child-care services for new moms. Others have programs that allow students to receive high-school credit.

"When a girl tells us she is pregnant, we advise her to work one on one with her counselor and go from there to see what they can work out," said Michelle Ancell, spokeswoman for Cherry Creek Schools.

"The counselor plays middleman between the principal and the student," said Melissa Reeves of Jefferson County Schools, who added that the district has started a computer-based credit-recovery program that students can use during evening hours.

Douglas County has had a program for 19 years called WINGS, or Winning in New Growth Situations, that offers support and instruction for the girls once a week, allowing them to earn elective credits in nutrition and parenting. The program has 20 students, said coordinator Susan Anderson.
The district has a school that begins at 4:30 p.m. for new parents that is attached to Highlands Ranch High School. Students also are able to stay in their schools, but that is not easy for many new moms, she said.

"Day care is very difficult, hard to come by and expensive," Anderson said. "We just work really hard to make sure kids graduate high school. We know it's so important."

Teen mothers face a challenging future, with many dropping out. A third of teen moms receive their high-school diplomas and 1.5 percent get college degrees before they turn 30, according to the National Campaign to Prevent Teen Pregnancy.

"If there are young mothers asking for maternity leave, the board should listen to them," said Lori Casillas, executive director of the Colorado Organization on Adolescent Pregnancy, Parenting, and Prevention. "If they think it is a barrier to graduation, the board should look at that."

Her organization advocates that schools provide child-care services for new moms. Too many girls drop out after giving birth, and schools must do something to keep them, Casillas said.

Students at one high school in southern Colorado wanted to set up a child-care center, but the principal forbade it, saying it would encourage teen pregnancy, she said.

"There is no evidence that has ever happened," Casillas said. "I don't think schools have been proactive at creating policies that encourage young mothers to remain in school. Schools need to say, 'What if you do come back, then what?'

"Schools need to say, 'This is what we do to support your learning.' That's not happening."
 
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NO way! I think they're free to come back to school when they're ready, but not the same school year. Or, do what my sister had to do, get your GED. Do I think of this as a punishment, you damn right!

Ok, so I said punishment...I also beleive in the death penalty....bring it on.
 

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Gosh, the whole thought of my daughter becoming preggo as teen is just heartbreaking. :(
 

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I dont think they should punish the girls. I think it would be a good idea. Grown women get maternity leave. Why not young girls? I think it would further their chances of finishing high school. They dont punish the guys that helped get the girls pregnant....so why should the girls be punished?
 

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I dont think they should punish the girls. I think it would be a good idea. Grown women get maternity leave. Why not young girls? I think it would further their chances of finishing high school. They dont punish the guys that helped get the girls pregnant....so why should the girls be punished?
Exactly. regardless of her age, she is a new mother, and should be treated as such. I DO think it is unfortunate for such a young person to have a baby at her age, but now that it has come to fruition, we need to deal with the problem here and now with the appropriate actions.
 

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Exactly. regardless of her age, she is a new mother, and should be treated as such. I DO think it is unfortunate for such a young person to have a baby at her age, but now that it has come to fruition, we need to deal with the problem here and now with the appropriate actions.
:clap Great post AEF...and exactly what i was thinking
 

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Don't you know? Some people want to punish young girls who have made mistakes even more, make life even harder for them than it is. Then they all get on their high horse and moan about them sponging benefits when realistically they don't have much choice!
 

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Exactly. regardless of her age, she is a new mother, and should be treated as such. I DO think it is unfortunate for such a young person to have a baby at her age, but now that it has come to fruition, we need to deal with the problem here and now with the appropriate actions.

And the appropriate action is to remove her from her peers, let her know that what she did is NOT acceptable, then let her finish school when she can. We start letting these young girls have maternity leave while they're still in High school, it will all of a sudden be "a cool thing to do".

As for the boys, I whole-heartedly agree with you that they too should held responsible. That's where the focus should be on this subject, not the girls getting some time off. I don't care if it's the Football star that's getting scholarship offers from all the major universities. His butt better be earning a paycheck somewhere to support his new family. This is a big reason why the welfare system in this nation is overwhelmed...a young girl gets pregnant, the parents can't afford to raise their daughter and grand-child, and since the boy is underage as well, the courts don't make him responsible for providing for the girls and baby. Bam, welfare to the rescue...makes me sick to know that my tax dollars are going to things like this and not to finding a cure for cancer or something useful!
 

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Don't you know? Some people want to punish young girls who have made mistakes even more, make life even harder for them than it is. Then they all get on their high horse and moan about them sponging benefits when realistically they don't have much choice!

Are you kidding me? They had a choice when they spread their legs...same with the boy....he had a choice whether or not to leave it in his pants. Obviously, they chose poorly.
 

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And the appropriate action is to remove her from her peers, let her know that what she did is NOT acceptable, then let her finish school when she can. We start letting these young girls have maternity leave while they're still in High school, it will all of a sudden be "a cool thing to do".

As for the boys, I whole-heartedly agree with you that they too should held responsible. That's where the focus should be on this subject, not the girls getting some time off. I don't care if it's the Football star that's getting scholarship offers from all the major universities. His butt better be earning a paycheck somewhere to support his new family. This is a big reason why the welfare system in this nation is overwhelmed...a young girl gets pregnant, the parents can't afford to raise their daughter and grand-child, and since the boy is underage as well, the courts don't make him responsible for providing for the girls and baby. Bam, welfare to the rescue...makes me sick to know that my tax dollars are going to things like this and not to finding a cure for cancer or something useful!
Why is that?

Why do you want to put pregnant girls under unnecessary pressure? To prove a point?


The men should also be held responsible. I agree. It takes two to tango and all of that jazz. But I do think this situation calls for welfare until they get a higher paying income, thats one of the many reasons welfare is there for.

Oh and don't worry, there's plenty of money for cancer research. Well, there would be even more if we weren't playing in a sandbox named iraq at this moment, but hey, we should be punishing pregnant teens!!
 

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Are you kidding me? They had a choice when they spread their legs...same with the boy....he had a choice whether or not to leave it in his pants. Obviously, they chose poorly.

If you can tell me that you never ever did anything stupid when you were a teenager, I'll accept that point.
 

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I believe the mother should be excused out of school for however long her doctor deems necessary. If she wants to stay home longer than what is medically necessary, she can transfer to an online high school (many states if not all have these).
 

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Why is that?

Why do you want to put pregnant girls under unnecessary pressure? To prove a point?


The men should also be held responsible. I agree. It takes two to tango and all of that jazz. But I do think this situation calls for welfare until they get a higher paying income, thats one of the many reasons welfare is there for.

Oh and don't worry, there's plenty of money for cancer research. Well, there would be even more if we weren't playing in a sandbox named iraq at this moment, but hey, we should be punishing pregnant teens!!

So, and please correct me if I misunderstand, we should condone the actions of these children, let them have kids whenever they want, and let the rest of the country pay for it? Really? That to you is a good idea?

Wow, I always thought you had more sense that that AEF....maybe not.

Seriously, does the boy who sperminated the girl get his 2 weeks of paternity leave too? I mean, let's be totally fair, right? HE needs to bond with the baby. Let's make sure that everyone gets paid for all of this too. After all, we're living in a socialist nation, right? Oh wait, no we're not.

Let's not forget that most adults that go on maternity/paternity leave are not getting paid once they use up all their vacation and sick days. The military is about the last place that actually pays for the full maternity leave period....even if it is only 42 days long. So, if adults aren't getting paid for maternity leave, in essence getting punished financially for not working, why on earth would we not do something similar for high school girls?
 

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And the appropriate action is to remove her from her peers, let her know that what she did is NOT acceptable, then let her finish school when she can. We start letting these young girls have maternity leave while they're still in High school, it will all of a sudden be "a cool thing to do".

As for the boys, I whole-heartedly agree with you that they too should held responsible. That's where the focus should be on this subject, not the girls getting some time off. I don't care if it's the Football star that's getting scholarship offers from all the major universities. His butt better be earning a paycheck somewhere to support his new family. This is a big reason why the welfare system in this nation is overwhelmed...a young girl gets pregnant, the parents can't afford to raise their daughter and grand-child, and since the boy is underage as well, the courts don't make him responsible for providing for the girls and baby. Bam, welfare to the rescue...makes me sick to know that my tax dollars are going to things like this and not to finding a cure for cancer or something useful!
Ok so let them know its not acceptable for them to keep a child and try to do right by it? Not every case is some girl trying to be cool...or trying to get welfare money. I think that its commendable that girls who get pregnant so young would try to do right by the child.

THough I do think that while on this maternity leave. They need to keep up on school work...Or even if need be when they come back from maternity. Be expected to be given no slack for being a mom. THey need to be expected to do everything every other kid is expected to do to graduate.

But at the same time again as aef said. They are new mothers and should be treated as such.

And the appropriate action is to remove her from her peers, let her know that what she did is NOT acceptable
Main point. Why make them suffer? Why is it unacceptable that a girl who just gave birth wants to finish school. To make something of her life for her child? You want to take that away from them? Whats that gona do when she gets older and decides to give up on highschool? Wouldnt that just lead to her staying on state or something like that for that much longer?

I say if they want to finsih school. Help them in any way. Give them the tools to shape a better future. Bad choices or not. Why kick them while theyre down?
 

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If you can tell me that you never ever did anything stupid when you were a teenager, I'll accept that point.

All I can say is that my first child arrived when I was 28 years old...not 16. So, I guess I did something right...made the correct choices, you know?
 

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I believe the mother should be excused out of school for however long her doctor deems necessary. If she wants to stay home longer than what is medically necessary, she can transfer to an online high school (many states if not all have these).

Exactly, she doesn't get to have time off, she still has to go to school. Now, she does it away from general population is all.
 

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I understand the compassion behind this, but I don't agree with it. I believe this will increase the amount of young girls getting pregnant.
 
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