Atheists Better Educated? NEVER!

[Tuffdisc]

Well I became an atheist because of the simple fact that the bible is incompatible with science and modern knowledge.

Why is it incompatible with science when there are Christian scientists?

 

[Dana]

OTZ'S RELIGIOUS PERSECUTION!!!!!!!
When will the flogging start? :24:

 

[KimmyCharmeleon]

I'm sorry if none of you can't admit to yourselves when you're being irrational. Ed's posts make sense, heh heh, ya see, I have my thinking cap on, it's called a lightbulb, or a brain

 

[cam elle toe]

yeah that's true. The stance of atheists can often be incredibly condescending.

:clap

In my experience ....waaaay more so than the religious people they look down upon.:cool

 

[KimmyCharmeleon]

There is a very small number of Christian scientists, probably those who don't apply their science to their faith or who are pseudoscientists.

If you know about the natural, you can dismiss the supernatural. You falsify it first, and if so much evidence has come up AGAINST the supernatural, then how do you go about finding confirming evidence for it...can you really make something so wrong, right?

 

[Dana]

See you all need to be understanding of other peoples fucking beliefs. I may not agree with somthing somebody believes in but I am not going to tear them down because our opinions differ. Having opposing views is what makes life interesting if everyone thought "logically" like you then the world would be pretty fucking boring.

 

[KimmyCharmeleon]

No, the world would be more interesting if you took away organised religion, no need for that exploitation.

 

[BornReady]

Statistics has nothing to do whether atheists are better educated than Christians

lol Statistics have everything to do with it.

Here are the statistics of people who believe in God in the USA:
88% of adults with a high school diploma or less
73% of college graduates
71% of postgraduates

As you can see, the more education a person has the less likely they are to believe in God. However, even a postgraduate is likely to believe, at least in the USA.

Of course, this proves nothing about whether God exists. But denying hard facts says something about the people who deny them.

 

[Tuffdisc]

lol Statistics have everything to do with it.

Here are the statistics of people who believe in God in the USA:
88% of adults with a high school diploma or less
73% of college graduates
71% of postgraduates

As you can see, the more education a person has the less likely they are to believe in God. However, even a postgraduate is likely to believe, at least in the USA.

Of course, this proves nothing about whether God exists. But denying hard facts says something about the people who deny them.

Education has something to do with belief in God? Since when? Moses was highly educated considering he was taught by the Pharaoh of Egypt, you're now saying that the more you are educated the less you believe in God? What nonsense

 

[sexysadie]

lol Statistics have everything to do with it.

Here are the statistics of people who believe in God in the USA:
88% of adults with a high school diploma or less
73% of college graduates
71% of postgraduates

As you can see, the more education a person has the less likely they are to believe in God. However, even a postgraduate is likely to believe, at least in the USA.

Of course, this proves nothing about whether God exists. But denying hard facts says something about the people who deny them.

Nicholas Copernicus (1473-1543)
Copernicus was the Polish astronomer who put forward the first mathematically based system of planets going around the sun. He attended various European universities, and became a Canon in the Catholic church in 1497. His new system was actually first presented in the Vatican gardens in 1533 before Pope Clement VII who approved, and urged Copernicus to publish it around this time. Copernicus was never under any threat of religious persecution - and was urged to publish both by Catholic Bishop Guise, Cardinal Schonberg, and the Protestant Professor George Rheticus. Copernicus referred sometimes to God in his works, and did not see his system as in conflict with the Bible.

 

[sexysadie]

Isaac Newton (1642-1727)
In optics, mechanics, and mathematics, Newton was a figure of undisputed genius and innovation. In all his science (including chemistry) he saw mathematics and numbers as central. What is less well known is that he was devoutly religious and saw numbers as involved in understanding God's plan for history from the Bible. He did a considerable work on biblical numerology, and, though aspects of his beliefs were not orthodox, he thought theology was very important. In his system of physics, God is essential to the nature and absoluteness of space. In Principia he stated, "The most beautiful system of the sun, planets, and comets, could only proceed from the counsel and dominion on an intelligent and powerful Being."

 

[cam elle toe]

lol Statistics have everything to do with it.

Here are the statistics of people who believe in God in the USA:
88% of adults with a high school diploma or less
73% of college graduates
71% of postgraduates

As you can see, the more education a person has the less likely they are to believe in God. However, even a postgraduate is likely to believe, at least in the USA.

Of course, this proves nothing about whether God exists. But denying hard facts says something about the people who deny them.

But a higher percentage of "educated" people still believe rather than not....go figure......I 'd be willing to bet the other 29% arent all strictly atheists either, but a mixture of agnostic and undecided as well.



So...how does that show atheists are better educated? Honest question...I cant see the reasoning.
All the statistics show to me...is that about 18% lose their faith.:dunno

 

[sexysadie]

Albert Einstein (1879-1955)
Einstein is probably the best known and most highly revered scientist of the twentieth century, and is associated with major revolutions in our thinking about time, gravity, and the conversion of matter to energy (E=mc2). Although never coming to belief in a personal God, he recognized the impossibility of a non-created universe. The Encyclopedia Britannica says of him: "Firmly denying atheism, Einstein expressed a belief in "Spinoza's God who reveals himself in the harmony of what exists." This actually motivated his interest in science, as he once remarked to a young physicist: "I want to know how God created this world, I am not interested in this or that phenomenon, in the spectrum of this or that element. I want to know His thoughts, the rest are details." Einstein's famous epithet on the "uncertainty principle" was "God does not play dice" - and to him this was a real statement about a God in whom he believed. A famous saying of his was "Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."

 

[KimmyCharmeleon]

Why Don't Scientists Fear Hell - by Phil Hellenes. YouTube that video, here's the first part:

In a blatant, and desperate attempt to seem far more rational than they actually are, Christians and Muslims will often show you a list of famous scientists who believed in God, as if such minds are ENTIRELY on their side. For example, Galileo, Kepler, Newton, Faraday...are all normally found on such lists. Giants of science who all called themselves Christian, but all of them died long before the atomic age, and the discovery of the god-confounding mechanisms of pure chance that rule ALL quantum reactions. They never heard of DNA, spectroscopy, redshift, stellar nucleosynthesis. They never heard of protons or neutrons, or the laws that govern everything these particles can, and cannot do. They never heard of radioactivity, and the window this provides for measuring the ages of rocks (and thereby, our planet).

Newton, living 400 years ago, may have believed as many Christians and Muslims still believe today that life cannot come from non-life. But that's only because nobody in the sixteen hundreds knew that our bodies are made entirely from non-life in the form of atoms. Would Faraday or Kepler? Who endorsed the Biblical creation story, had their minds encountered the explanatory power of the DNA molecule, the data behind the rates and causes of genetic mutation, the vast time scales involved, not to mention the highly detailed mathematics and observations that underpin 21st century cosmology.

We'll never know. But there's plenty of statistical evidence to suggest that in the Information Age at least, the more you know, the less likely you are to believe that the creator of the universe cares what you do with your sexual organs, or which direction you pray in. Or even if you pray at all.

 

[dkwrtw]

 

[KimmyCharmeleon]

Lol that isn't atheism at all I bet an "Intelligent Designist" created it.

 

[cam elle toe]

But a higher percentage of "educated" people still believe rather than not....go figure......I 'd be willing to bet the other 29% arent all strictly atheists either, but a mixture of agnostic and undecided as well.



So...how does that show atheists are better educated? Honest question...I cant see the reasoning.
All the statistics show to me...is that about 18% lose their faith.:dunno

In case it was mised....

Anyone?

 

[KimmyCharmeleon]

In case it was mised....

Anyone?

The higher the education, the less belief in god. High school graduates believed more than someone who is a postgraduate from university, that's how I'm seeing it anywho. I don't doubt it either, postgraduate study, particularly Masters are competitive and hard to attain.

 

[dkwrtw]

Lol that isn't atheism at all I bet an "Intelligent Designist" created it.

I don't know who made it but it made me lol

 

[KimmyCharmeleon]

To be technical, and a party pooper, it doesn't describe it at all. It describes how a Christian sees the theory of evolution, and they assume that all atheists must believe in evolution if they don't believe in god. Bad Christian, bad! :ninja