American Wages and Healthcare Compared To Australia

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Minor Axis

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Dang Minor....Did you just say something nice about me or very nicely poke me in the eye? :p

Your intense, so was he in a "take no prisoners" kind of way, however mostly I agree with where you are coming, and I disagreed with the other's point of view. Your passionate, even somewhat like Retro (in passion only) although he has ratcheted down the intensity on his part lately, believe it or not. You currently hold the crown of intense exchanges. :D Honestly, it's not my method. Points can be made somewhat gently or come out swinging although if you name any prominent Republican, I'll name the same as an ass-wipe. :cool There are even some Dem ass-wipes, yup, I said it, but if I have to choose, it will never be a backstabbing anti-American Republican. Shoot, they don't even resemble the Republican's when I was a young man. That's when I was a Republican...
 

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Yeh, he was a third-degree ass hat, too. :cool

Speaking of third-degree asshats, hello there accountable. Nothing like a little "intelligent" commentary from a government employee with cranial rectumitus induced myopia. Enjoying your taxpayer funded summer vacation? Or are you picking up some additional government summer school taxpayer money? :p

Your intense, ........... however mostly I agree with where you are coming, and I disagreed with the other's point of view.

Thanks...I think...lol. I'm just intensly tired of reading the same old right wing talking points while they lie and deny they listen to bot radio. Hell, I know their talking points better than they do. :D

Your passionate, even somewhat like Retro (in passion only) although he has ratcheted down the intensity on his part lately, believe it or not.

Believe it or not, I was a conservo-bot somewhat like retro when I was his age - never quite went ino tantrum mode like he does though...geeze. (If he's ractcheted it down, that boy must have really been a shit.)Thought I knew everything just like he thinks he does, parroted the right wing anti-government talking points just like he and his bot buddies do. But then one day I heard El Rushbo giving some misinformation about a particular governmental entity I'm quite familiar with. He was nowhere near the truth - and of course, the lesser talk show parrots picked it up and ran with it. It got me to thinking about what other misinformation the right wing talk machine was putting out there. Turns out most things they say are misrepresentations - some minor, some major. That was a turning point for me. I began questioning everything everthing they said, and still do.

You currently hold the crown of intense exchanges. :D Honestly, it's not my method.

People like retro, accountable and AA won't be persuaded - I knew that coming in. But other people read their parroted bullshit and if no one counters it, they'll just keep on putting out bullshit. I step in and challenge their positions and give them a benevolent bitch-slap or two when it's needed. I get a kick out of seeing retro go ballistic. I probably shouldn't reveal that because he might actually calm down a little - but I kinda doubt it. :D I think that's what Moonie referred to as "ShillSlaying"...I call it Bot-Busting. :p


Points can be made somewhat gently....

Only to reasonable people. You have to take the conservo-bots to the mat, but even then, like I said before, they'll get right back up and repeat the same garbage that was just discredited - They're like "Energizer Bullshit Bunnies" - they just keep repeating and repeating and repeating.....

OK, back on topic now. ;)
 

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And to continue the discussion about population density... years ago National Geographic compared Chicago (220 sm)with Paris (22sm) and the same number of peeps living in both places. The U.S. has the luxury of space, but a condensed city is better for the environment and the infrastructure.

Are you sure Chicago?

I know for a fact that Paris is more populated than London, which makes it a pretty big city.

I do imagine population denisity has some effect on healthcare, doctors per person is always an important statistic.
 

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Name calling is not necessary. Or I could say takes one to... Actually John reminds me whateverhisnamewas (no name needed) that left a while back but was on the conservative end of the spectrum...very passionate. ;)

I was thinking that mazHur would be a more accurate comparison.
 

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Are you sure Chicago?

I know for a fact that Paris is more populated than London, which makes it a pretty big city.

I do imagine population denisity has some effect on healthcare, doctors per person is always an important statistic.

It was Chicago, but this was back around 1980, so it could have changed since then.
 

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People like retro, accountable and AA won't be persuaded - I knew that coming in. But other people read their parroted bullshit and if no one counters it, they'll just keep on putting out bullshit. I step in and challenge their positions and give them a benevolent bitch-slap or two when it's needed. I get a kick out of seeing retro go ballistic. I probably shouldn't reveal that because he might actually calm down a little - but I kinda doubt it. :D I think that's what Moonie referred to as "ShillSlaying"...I call it Bot-Busting. :p

For those of us entrenched in our views (more or less) no one will change their minds. However these discussions are beneficial to those with doubts, either about their current views or the political leadership they question or used to trust.

In case anyone like that is listening questioning the conservative view, if you make less than $150k annually as someone's employee, you are shooting yourself in the foot by supporting Republicans and/or Conservatives. They don't care about you, other than to get your vote. Their policies are openly hostile to your economic well being if you take the time to really analyze their double-speak. Sure after loosing their collective minds for 8 years under "W", they are not back on the "we're responsible" track, but their view of responsibility only applies to those who reside in the top economic tier of society. Everyone else is expendable, you can bank on it. One easy example: they want to eradicate Medicare. Average citizens won't be able to afford health care in their old age. "Oh well" say the Republicans, "we just can't afford it."
 

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Conservatives. They don't care about you, other than to get your vote.

Neither do democrats, but the trick is, democrats are wise enough (I use the term relatively) to at least present as though they care. Conservatives are working one of the most successful cases of Stockholm Syndrome in the world; they've actually convinced simple minds like my dad's (bless him) that giving everything to the rich makes everyone else rich. Maybe they are the clever ones afterall. :24:
 

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In case anyone like that is listening questioning the conservative view, if you make less than $150k annually as someone's employee, you are shooting yourself in the foot by supporting Republicans and/or Conservatives. They don't care about you, other than to get your vote. Their policies are openly hostile to your economic well being if you take the time to really analyze their double-speak. Sure after loosing their collective minds for 8 years under "W", they are not back on the "we're responsible" track, but their view of responsibility only applies to those who reside in the top economic tier of society. Everyone else is expendable, you can bank on it. One easy example: they want to eradicate Medicare. Average citizens won't be able to afford health care in their old age. "Oh well" say the Republicans, "we just can't afford it."
Gawd! Talk about parroting talking points. Go 'head on, Partisan.
 

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Gawd! Talk about parroting talking points. Go 'head on, Partisan.

Partisan? I take exception to your characterization. I prefer logical and knowing what is best for the majority, not screwing them, and definitely not babying the wealthy minority. I'm not prejudiced or unreasoning. The GOPpers have worked hard to earn my disdain.

Partisan: a firm adherent to a party, faction, cause, or person; especially : one exhibiting blind, prejudiced, and unreasoning allegiance
 

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I'm not liking it as a nickname, sounds weird to the ear. Liberal whackadoodle, leftist clown, hell even stick with the old tried and true Commie/Socialist ones...Partisan?

Almost sounds like fancy french bread when repeated over and over :24:
 

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Neither do democrats, but the trick is, democrats are wise enough (I use the term relatively) to at least present as though they care. Conservatives are working one of the most successful cases of Stockholm Syndrome in the world; they've actually convinced simple minds like my dad's (bless him) that giving everything to the rich makes everyone else rich. Maybe they are the clever ones afterall. :24:

Dad and lots of others... The GOPpers are brilliant in at least one thing, appealing to stupidity. With the millions who are being setup to take it in the shorts, I admit I'm impressed they have not been run out of all positions of authority.
 

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Partisan? I take exception to your characterization. I prefer logical and knowing what is best for the majority, not screwing them, and definitely not babying the wealthy minority. I'm not prejudiced or unreasoning. The GOPpers have worked hard to earn my disdain.
Stop being partisan and I'll stop calling you partisan.
 
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