Abortion. Right or wrong?

[Peter Parka]

Agreed.


A broken condom can very well be the guys fault. The girl agrees to have sex with him, but how could she know the condom is broken?

As for Hitler: have you ever read up on history? Hitler was a sick man, no doubt. But most of his experiments on humans led to our advances in medicine.

I fail to see how a condom breaking is any more the guys fault than the girls, accidents happen.
Don't preach to me about Hitler and reading up on history, I'm pretty sure I have a greater knowledge of Nazi history than you. And once again I ask, are you seriously suggesting that raping girls to produce a superior, master race was a good idea? Because that was the Nazi policy I was referring too but then you would know that seeing you seem to think you know more about Nazi history than me!

 

[All Else Failed]

The argument i always get from supposed pro-life people is "abortion destroys potential life! The fetus could grow up to be a living, feeling person!" Well, you know what? So can your sperm! With that logic, you can't even masturbate! Because whenever you cum, you're destroying potential life. Your murdering what could have potentially become a living, feeling human being! Even for those who do not masturbate, you're not off the hook just yet. Every second you are not having sex with a woman, you are hindering the possibility of human life from growing. if you just screw one chick and have ONE baby, in a time span where you could have screwed 100 women creating 100 babies, then you are hindering those 99 babies from coming into existence. It sounds a bit extreme, but if you are against abortion simply because you think it destroys potential human life, then you have to do this or you are a hypocrite.

The same goes for all of you pro-life women. You have to get yourself pregnant as fast as you can, and after 9 months after you have that baby, you have to hurry up and get yourself pregnant, again! And you have to do this over and over again until you finally die or hit menopause because every second you don't spend creating human life, you are hindering the human you could have created from becoming a person.

 

[dt3]

The argument i always get from supposed pro-life people is "abortion destroys potential life! The fetus could grow up to be a living, feeling person!" Well, you know what? So can your sperm! With that logic, you can't even masturbate! Because whenever you cum, you're destroying potential life. Your murdering what could have potentially become a living, feeling human being! Even for those who do not masturbate, you're not off the hook just yet. Every second you are not having sex with a woman, you are hindering the possibility of human life from growing. if you just screw one chick and have ONE baby, in a time span where you could have screwed 100 women creating 100 babies, then you are hindering those 99 babies from coming into existence. It sounds a bit extreme, but if you are against abortion simply because you think it destroys potential human life, then you have to do this or you are a hypocrite.

The same goes for all of you pro-life women. You have to get yourself pregnant as fast as you can, and after 9 months after you have that baby, you have to hurry up and get yourself pregnant, again! And you have to do this over and over again until you finally die or hit menopause because every second you don't spend creating human life, you are hindering the human you could have created from becoming a person.

:smiley24::urstupid:

 

[All Else Failed]

:smiley24::urstupid:

Its pretty sound logic. There's really no difference when you're talking about "stopping potential life". Its even worse, since you're not even giving the chance of a baby forming, you're stopping it outright.

 

[Peter Parka]

I don't view a life as having been created until the sperm enters the egg. By that logic, nothing wrong with masturbation seeing it would come out in a wet dream if you didn't anyway and a girl must be killing a life everytime she has a period too!

 

[All Else Failed]

I don't view a life as having been created until the sperm enters the egg. By that logic, nothing wrong with masturbation seeing it would come out in a wet dream if you didn't anyway and a girl must be killing a life everytime she has a period too!

But you are ultimately stopping it from even happening. That is why the whole "you're stopping potential human life form happening!" is bullshit.

 

[Dodge_Sniper]

I fail to see how a condom breaking is any more the guys fault than the girls, accidents happen.
Don't preach to me about Hitler and reading up on history, I'm pretty sure I have a greater knowledge of Nazi history than you. And once again I ask, are you seriously suggesting that raping girls to produce a superior, master race was a good idea? Because that was the Nazi policy I was referring too but then you would know that seeing you seem to think you know more about Nazi history than me!

I never said I knew more about Nazi history than you. Also, I'm speaking of Hitler's personal experiments, not the Nazis.

The argument i always get from supposed pro-life people is "abortion destroys potential life! The fetus could grow up to be a living, feeling person!" Well, you know what? So can your sperm! With that logic, you can't even masturbate! Because whenever you cum, you're destroying potential life. Your murdering what could have potentially become a living, feeling human being! Even for those who do not masturbate, you're not off the hook just yet. Every second you are not having sex with a woman, you are hindering the possibility of human life from growing. if you just screw one chick and have ONE baby, in a time span where you could have screwed 100 women creating 100 babies, then you are hindering those 99 babies from coming into existence. It sounds a bit extreme, but if you are against abortion simply because you think it destroys potential human life, then you have to do this or you are a hypocrite.

The same goes for all of you pro-life women. You have to get yourself pregnant as fast as you can, and after 9 months after you have that baby, you have to hurry up and get yourself pregnant, again! And you have to do this over and over again until you finally die or hit menopause because every second you don't spend creating human life, you are hindering the human you could have created from becoming a person.

Its pretty sound logic. There's really no difference when you're talking about "stopping potential life". Its even worse, since you're not even giving the chance of a baby forming, you're stopping it outright.

But you are ultimately stopping it from even happening. That is why the whole "you're stopping potential human life form happening!" is bullshit.

I owe you rep for that one

I don't view a life as having been created until the sperm enters the egg. By that logic, nothing wrong with masturbation seeing it would come out in a wet dream if you didn't anyway and a girl must be killing a life everytime she has a period too!

PMS is a natural occurance. A girl can't stop having her period.

 

[Peter Parka]

But I don't believe its wrong to stop POTENTIAL human life, I just think its wrong to kill babies, what you consider to be a baby and what I consider to be a baby, we're never going to agree on as we've already seen. Thats why I'm going to leave that angle of this discussion there as its pointless us both repeating ourselves over and over again.

 

[All Else Failed]

But I don't believe its wrong to stop POTENTIAL human life, I just think its wrong to kill babies, what you consider to be a baby and what I consider to be a baby, we're never going to agree on as we've already seen. Thats why I'm going to leave that angle of this discussion there as its pointless us both repeating ourselves over and over again.

Thats what abortion is. You stop a baby from being born. its potential human life.

 

[dt3]

Thats what abortion is. You stop a baby from being born. its potential human life.

Wrong. Now you're going back to your old standby of imposing your definitions on others. It's not "potential human life", it IS human life.

 

[Peter Parka]

Also, I'm speaking of Hitler's personal experiments, not the Nazis.

Well I wasn't, I was talking about one Nazi experiment as I clearly explained. If you'd like to show me wtf what you're going on about has anything to do with the issue of abortion I'm all ears.

 

[HouseOvaries]

Why does every thread turn into some religious debate here? It's annoying.

 

[dt3]

Why does every thread turn into some religious debate here? It's annoying.

Please, allow me to show you, since I predicted it several pages ago:

Abortion, regardless of the circumstances, is wrong.

(It's a much longer, thought-provoking post, but I edited it for simplicity purposes)

Then AEF said:

WHY is it always wrong, though? I'm just curious.

To which I so presciently replied:

Now this is going to turn religious, because you know damn well that's where her set of moral values comes from. Then you're gonna complain about how you don't know why people accuse you of always turning things into a religious debate. And I'm gonna point to this post and say "That's why".

That's why.

 

[All Else Failed]

Wrong. Now you're going back to your old standby of imposing your definitions on others. It's not "potential human life", it IS human life.

Not in the first trimester where its just a glump of cells. Thats not a human.

 

[All Else Failed]

Why does every thread turn into some religious debate here? It's annoying.

It involves religion when people with religious morals object to it on religious grounds.

 

[dt3]

Not in the first trimester where its just a glump of cells. Thats not a human.

That's by your definition of life. Imposing it on others is wrong. My definition says it is.

 

[All Else Failed]

That's by your definition of life. Imposing it on others is wrong. My definition says it is.

Doctors and biologists will disagree.

 

[dt3]

Doctors and biologists will disagree.

And some won't.

 

[All Else Failed]

Well, in closing I don't think its inherently wrong for a woman to seek an abortion as long as it doesn't have any active brainwaves. To me and many others it just isn't a human until it does.

 

[HouseOvaries]

It involves religion when people with religious morals object to it on religious grounds.

I don't think you "have" to keep religion in everything you reply to.