A hypothetical situation.

[Breath]

No, I will go to hell based upon the rules god has set up in the universe. That would mean all cause regresses back to the law giver.

Wrong. If you choose the path, the fault lies within yourself.
You were given the proof in our hypothetical situation.
Naughty boy, trying to put the blame for your own damnation on someone else.

 

[All Else Failed]

Guess it depends on your level of faith .. I am not so devout that I would do it without some har devidence that I should (or why I should) .. but I am quite sure there are those that would.

And why are you asking such questions .. kinda a shitty question to ask this time of year .. to not be stirring a pot, or anything .. ya know :dunno

but you WOULD do it if the hard evidence was presented?

 

[SRC]

trying to put the blame for your own damnation on someone else.

It's the first thing anyone faced with punishment does .. blame it on someone else besides themselves.

It's like in the movie SAW .. he doens't kill them .. he gives the people the ability to live .. by making a hard decision. It is up to them and them alone to decide their fate.

 

[SRC]

but you WOULD do it if the hard evidence was presented?

Did I say I would, or did I just say I wasn't devout enough to do so but I'm sure there are those that would.

Can you not read tonight or something?

 

[Breath]

*takes over the thread from certain destructive comments at such a beautiful time of year*

And why are you asking such questions .. kinda a shitty question to ask this time of year .. to not be stirring a pot, or anything .. ya know

Point already mentioned in Post # 4.

 

[All Else Failed]

Wrong. If you choose the path, the fault lies within yourself.
You were given the proof in our hypothetical situation.
Naughty boy, trying to put the blame for your own damnation on someone else.

I'm not putting the blame on anyone. Ultimately, everything works according to god's will (if you believe in it). HE set up the rules. HE made the universe work the way it does. Whatever we do in this life, is in direct response to what he has set up in his little game. We're forced to play it when we are born. (supposedly). In fact, god is responsible for Satan. God creating a being like Satan, "the great deceiver", knowing full well who he was and what he would do, lets him loose on all of humanity anyways? Thats like closing your toddler off in a room with a pit bull, knowing what will happen.

 

[All Else Failed]

It's the first thing anyone faced with punishment does .. blame it on someone else besides themselves.

It's like in the movie SAW .. he doens't kill them .. he gives the people the ability to live .. by making a hard decision. It is up to them and them alone to decide their fate.

Not really, I'm a very responsible person.

 

[Breath]

Wrong. If you choose the path, the fault lies within yourself.
Naughty boy, trying to put the blame for your own damnation on someone else.

It's the first thing anyone faced with punishment does .. blame it on someone else besides themselves.

Already brought out in Post # 61.

 

[All Else Failed]

Breath, answer my quesiton.

 

[Breath]

...Ultimately, everything works according to god's will. HE set up the rules. HE made the universe work the way it does. Whatever we do in this life, is in direct response to what he has set up.

Ron, the assumption is that you were given unequivocal PROOF in God, the Supreme Being. You are going to question His "rules"? I don't think that once you absolutely have proof in this higher being, that you have any say-so in what the rules are. Follow them or be damned. Black and white. You KEEP forgetting that. So you would STILL not follow?

 

[Breath]

Breath, answer my quesiton.

Prove to me that you are my Supreme Ruler. I'll obey you.

 

[All Else Failed]

Ron, the assumption is that you were given unequivocal PROOF in God, the Supreme Being. You are going to question His "rules"? I don't think that once you absolutely have proof in this higher being, that you have any say-so in what the rules are. Follow them or be damned. Black and white. You KEEP forgetting that. So you would STILL not follow?

I think I'll enjoy my eternity without the presents of god.


Breath, answer my question. Stop ignoring it.

 

[All Else Failed]

Prove to me that you are my Supreme Ruler. I'll obey you.

stop being silly, answer my question.

 

[SRC]

Already brought out in Post # 61.

yeah I know that's why I quoted you .. but as far as this thread goes .. seems he needs things repeated sometimes.

 

[Breath]

I think I'll enjoy my eternity without the presents of god.

In your current situtaion, yes.
But you hypothetically stated that if God was proven to you, you would believe, you would not follow and would accept Hell as the consequence.
Why? There's gonna be good times in Heaven.

 

[Breath]

stop being silly, answer my question.

I'm sorry you are so frustrated. I take full responsibility for your blue balls.

 

[All Else Failed]

In your current situtaion, yes.
But you hypothetically stated that if God was proven to you, you would believe, you would not follow and would accept Hell as the consequence.
Why? There's gonna be good times in Heaven.

Heaven will have nothing but boring people in it.

I'd rather shoot pool with Hitler.

 

[SRC]

I'd rather shoot pool with Hitler.

that's just disgusting .. why would you want to associate with someone as vile as him?

 

[All Else Failed]

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[All Else Failed]

that's just disgusting .. why would you want to associate with someone as vile as him?

you get jokes.


well, he's actually nothing compared to your god that drowned every man, woman and child in your book of Genesis.