27 People Dead, Mostly Children, at Connecticut Elementary School Shooting

[Dana]

Has this been posted yet?

[video=youtube;cKWgCRBR5qE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=cKWgCRBR5qE[/video]

 

[Johnfromokc]

I need to get me one them 1000 yard scopes. How more badass is it than a 500 yard scope?

Why would anyone need a scope for 500 yards?

 

[redliner]

What if you actually thought before you posted?

Par for the course john.

 

[Joe the meek]

Why would anyone need a scope for 500 yards?

Don't give me that crap lol Your eyes, along with mine, aren't what they use to be.

I'm good out to about 300, but on a pie plate past that, I need some glass.

At least I'm honest

 

[Johnfromokc]

Don't give me that crap lol Your eyes, along with mine, aren't what they use to be.

I'm good out to about 300, but on a pie plate past that, I need some glass.

At least I'm honest

Well - you were in the Army and they only shot at 50 yards, so I understand your handicap.

 

[Joe the meek]

Well - you were in the Army and they only shot at 50 yards, so I understand your handicap.

I'm a a better man than to respond in kind lol

You'd like this one...



The recent bid history on 100 pack mags. Look at what the winning bid was.

This is why I gave up trying to find a tractor at auctions.

 

[Johnfromokc]

It's like idiot fest with the gun freaks. Wonder what I could get for my Colt right now?

I have no desire to buy more guns. Got plenty to survive the Teabilly Apocalypse, lol.

 

[Joe the meek]

It's like idiot fest with the gun freaks. Wonder what I could get for my Colt right now?

No bull. My buddy texted me today on a Colt he just picked up, NIB for $1,800!

On our local forum, a guy is asking $6,500 for his POS "new" AR.

 

[Joe the meek]

A guy said this was taken at a local gun shop here in NC, not sure if it's accurate or not, but from what I've seen around here today, I can believe it.

 

[Johnfromokc]

 

[FoxInSox]

 

[Minor Axis]

While I can see armed guards in schools as an immediate although ineffective way to address the problem, I've read several articles about how the NRA has hamstrung the ATF's ability to keep track of firearms in the U.S. You know how you can't go into a pharmacy and get your renewals until when they are due? This is because of computers. When it comes to tracing the origins of the purchase of a gun used in a crime, it involves shoe boxes and cards and if there is a record, they are lucky to be able to trace it back.

NYTimes- Legislative Handcuffs

For example, under current laws the bureau is prohibited from creating a federal registry of gun transactions. So while detectives on television tap a serial number into a computer and instantly identify the buyer of a firearm, the reality could not be more different.

When law enforcement officers recover a gun and serial number, workers at the bureau’s National Tracing Center here — a windowless warehouse-style building on a narrow road outside town — begin making their way through a series of phone calls, asking first the manufacturer, then the wholesaler and finally the dealer to search their files to identify the buyer of the firearm.

About a third of the time, the process involves digging through records sent in by companies that have closed, in many cases searching by hand through cardboard boxes filled with computer printouts, hand-scrawled index cards or even water-stained sheets of paper.

The paranoid tail is wagging the dog. There is no excuse for this situation. We know who owns cars, there should be a computerized system that identifies gun owners and available to law enforcement. You must realize there is a contingent of gun nuts who don't want any federalis knowing the number and type of guns they own.

 

[Accountable]

The paranoid poster is wagging his finger. Here's some information you are apparently unaware of: the NRA is a lobby organization. The ATF is an official federal agency. A lobbying organization can't hamstring an official federal agency, though the reverse is definitely possible.

Your analogy doesn't match. Nobody tries to trace origins of the purchase of a pill. Are you under the impression that it would be possible if someone tried?

Why is it important to keep a computerized record of past owners of cars?

 

[Minor Axis]

The paranoid poster is wagging his finger. Here's some information you are apparently unaware of: the NRA is a lobby organization. The ATF is an official federal agency. A lobbying organization can't hamstring an official federal agency, though the reverse is definitely possible.

Your analogy doesn't match. Nobody tries to trace origins of the purchase of a pill. Are you under the impression that it would be possible if someone tried?

Why is it important to keep a computerized record of past owners of cars?

Your response does not warrant a meaningful reply. My points sailed over your head or you just like arguing. What the heck do you think lobby groups do in Washington? You refuse to acknowledge that computerized data is better than info kept in a shoe box??? You're turning into a bitter old curmudgeon. Maybe you should take a break from OTZ, regain some good humor.

 

[Accountable]

Your response does not warrant a meaningful reply.

:24: and to prove it ==>

My points sailed over your head or you just like arguing. What the heck do you think lobby groups do in Washington? You refuse to acknowledge that computerized data is better than info kept in a shoe box??? You're turning into a bitter old curmudgeon. Maybe you should take a break from OTZ, regain some good humor.

Lots of words and nothing said.

It wouldn't matter what lobbyists do if you partisans would stop the status quo bullshit and start voting for people who aren't prepackaged and prepurchased. The fact remains that it is the legislators that vote to do any hamstringing, not the NRA. Lay the blame where it belongs.

Let me scrub the sarcasm off my question and rephrase.
Why do you think that computerized data would be important? And do try to actually answer the question instead of your typical rhetoric-filled non-answer.

 

[Minor Axis]

:24: and to prove it ==>

Lots of words and nothing said.

It wouldn't matter what lobbyists do if you partisans would stop the status quo bullshit and start voting for people who aren't prepackaged and prepurchased. The fact remains that it is the legislators that vote to do any hamstringing, not the NRA. Lay the blame where it belongs.

Let me scrub the sarcasm off my question and rephrase.
Why do you think that computerized data would be important? And do try to actually answer the question instead of your typical rhetoric-filled non-answer.

Are you an NRA member? You sound like the paranoid one. It's your mistaken right to feel that computerized data has no role for gun registration/tracking. When you get ridiculous, I'll do my best to avoid engaging in your BS games.

 

[Accountable]

It's your mistaken right to feel that computerized data has no role for gun registration/tracking.

It's either a right or it's not. No such thing as a mistaken right.

When you get ridiculous, I'll do my best to avoid engaging in your BS games.

Okay, now you're all butt-hurt because you can't answer the question.

Why is it important to have a computerized record of who owns guns?

 

[Minor Axis]

It's either a right or it's not. No such thing as a mistaken right.

Okay, now you're all butt-hurt because you can't answer the question.

Why is it important to have a computerized record of who owns guns?

You're a teacher right? Are you honestly trying to argue that when it comes to guns there is no place for computerized data and record keeping? Is this a unique position or do you feel this way in general regarding computerized data?

And yes, I'm becoming fatigued with your persistent bad mood.

 

[Accountable]

You're a teacher right? Are you honestly trying to argue that when it comes to guns there is no place for computerized data and record keeping? Is this a unique position or do you feel this way in general regarding computerized data?

And yes, I'm becoming fatigued with your persistent bad mood.

Again, you don't answer. Why post at all?

 

[Minor Axis]

Again, you don't answer. Why post at all?

Why do you think that computerized data would be important?

I'm not going to answer questions that you as an educated person know the answer to. I have to say this?? The NRA's goal is to minimize gun record keeping in this country for all guns legal and illegal. Now you tell me why any data would be better off not computerized? Come on say it.