Comparing the death of civilians during a war to terrorists flying planes into buildings unprovoked is pathetic at best.
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He'd think it worse had we not taken every measure possible to stop the death of innocent civilians for no reason.
Killing innocent civilians in war PALES in comparison to killing innocent civilians because of a racial bias. It's still bad, but it's not as bad. I say that 20,000 innocent civilians killed to at least try stop a genocidal dictator is better then 20 civilians killed by that genocidal dictator because he thought their noses were too big.
Can I ask how innocent people provoke B-17's dropping bombs on them?
There was no reason for the fire bombings at Dresden. Everyone knew it was a non-military target.
Killing innocent people is killing innocent people. The motivation hardly matters. I think its horrifying that you think that in certain situations killing innocents is "not as bad" as in others. You have a lot to lean.
Not that what was done was right...Because it wasn't, but they did what they did to prove a point, and now we are.
I see it as a push:unsure:
Haven't you ever read the Bible?
And if you're thinking that I am saying that I'm justified in killing if God told me so, that's not what I believe. God doesn't speak to us anymore. Not directly, at least.
I've read it many times. Its a bore.
No...as a matter of fact he speaks through George Bush alone now...That's mentioned int eh third verse of....
Oh and FOX news, he speaks through them as well...
We were involved in a war. Those people knew they were in a war zone, and they were even warned to leave.
We take as many precautions as possible to ensure as few civilian casualities as possible.
Unfortunately that's war, and you're naive if you think wars are unavoidable, as are civilian casualities.
You're missing the point that Dresden wasn't a military target at all. We bombed it intentionally to kill civilians.
Motivation doesn't matter? I don't even know how to respond to that. No offense, but that is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard. That goes against every single one of my moral premises.
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Okay, so, let's say you have a choice (Oh, and pretend you're Jewish).
a) Hitler will gas you because he says your Jewish, and he doesn't like Jews.
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b) You can die under bombs in a raid that people think might somehow help end the war against the worst human in the history of the world.
You would choose A because it's just as wrong to kill innocent civilians trying to stop a dictator as it is being killed by that dictator because of your race?
Nothing at all. You need to realize that the US isn't some captain America that is all good and all moral. We will do anything to remain in power.
Sorry, I should explain this more fully - we were in a war to stop the senseless slaughter of innocents. Why would the greatest and most democratic nations on earth, the most righteous governments to ever exist, bomb a city simply to kill civilians? Especially when we could have used those bombs to kill SOLDIERS.
Plus: From Wikipedia:
LOL hahaha. So you are trying to break down the killing on innocents in some sort of utilitarian point of view? DRESEDEN WASN'T OF ANY MILITARY SIGNIFICANCE. We didn't have to bomb it at all!
Yet we did it all the same! hahaha
I would like to hear why you think our government is "righteous".
lease read the rest of the wiki article, where basically everyone agrees that its was wrong to do. Plus Germany was only a few weeks away from a Surrender everyone knew was coming.
The key words in that sentance were "THINK," "MIGHT," and "SOMEHOW"
The Bill of Rights, for one. One of the most righteous documents since the Bible.
The right to vote, second. This right is unappreciated, and giving civilians a say in their government is one of the greatest things a government can do for it's people.
I'm sorry, but "think might and somehow" are not justifiable circumstances to bomb innocent men, women and children.
A lot of other countries have the same rights as we do, and some even have more liberties than we give to our own people.
Normally - no. In the case of Hitler - yes. If I thought it would have helped remove Hitler from power, I, who rail on for hours about the ultimate evil of suicide, would have shot myself right through the brain.
And they're righteous governments too, I never said they weren't.
I highly doubt you would kill yourself. Plus, taking your life is a pretty terrible sin, Christian. I just think its hilarious that you somehow think the people of Germany would be glad to have bombs rained down on them to get Hitler out of power. Plus, the Russians had the war won through most of the war. The US wasn't even needed.