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[Pudding Time]

So Socialism just encourages everyone to be a lazy worthless piece of shit then.. Awesome lets do that right away! :clap

No. Everyone has the oppotunity to be productive in their own way without having to worry about providing for themselves or their family. Everyone is provided for, and therefor can pursue whatever they want in life, without being bogged down with a day job.

 

[BreakfastSurreal]

No. Everyone has the oppotunity to be productive in their own way without having to worry about providing for themselves or their family. Everyone is provided for, and therefor can pursue whatever they want in life, without being bogged down with a day job.

ha. would be nice if it really worked that way, huh? too bad it doesn't. Certain jobs require 100% effort and 100% accuracy. Seriously, would you want to ride in an airplane that was built by someone who was just doing enough work to get by and get paid??? come on now be realistic!

 

[Cotton]

ha. would be nice if it really worked that way, huh? too bad it doesn't. Certain jobs require 100% effort and 100% accuracy. Seriously, would you want to ride in an airplane that was built by someone who was just doing enough work to get by and get paid??? come on now be realistic!

:clap

Three cheers for the voice of reason... I mean the world sees just how great Socialism works in....Cuba..

 

[Pudding Time]

ha. would be nice if it really worked that way, huh? too bad it doesn't. Certain jobs require 100% effort and 100% accuracy. Seriously, would you want to ride in an airplane that was built by someone who was just doing enough work to get by and get paid??? come on now be realistic!

I really don't understand how you people think... if you people think at all..

Who's going to build an air plane poorly? Who in their right mind is going to build a crap plane that may cause multiple deaths? No one would ride in airplanes ever again...

Look at the Mig-29. Built by Communist Russia. It has been one of the best built fighter/bomber jets built for the last 25 years now.

 

[Pudding Time]

:clap

Three cheers for the voice of reason... I mean the world sees just how great Socialism works in....Cuba..

I don't see any problems in Cuba related to socialism.

I see plenty of problems related to a dictatorship, and US embagos.

 

[Cotton]

I don't see any problems in Cuba related to socialism.

I see plenty of problems related to a dictatorship, and US embagos.

:24:

Ahh always find a way to blame the US... Good Socialist..good boy...Your owners have taught you well... Do you sit and speak as well?

So people risk death fleeing from Cuba daily because of.... duh duh duh evil US Embargos...

I'm also guessing that the US is to blame for all the death in Iraq during UN sancations..

What page in the socialist handbook does blame America first fall under?

As far as the Migs go, shit those things probably had to be built good, if not the engineers were probably murdered. Also the Migs can't hold a candle to any US figher jet.

 

[All Else Failed]

But your exact quote was "We will do anything to remain in power". My point is that that is the very point of anything's existence.

Being a super power isn't necessary to stay alive.

 

[All Else Failed]

So Socialism just encourages everyone to be a lazy worthless piece of shit then.. Awesome lets do that right away! :clap

Yeah because thats why most Democratic social socities have a much higher standard of living, they are healthier, and smarter. Please stop talking about something you have no idea about.

 

[Pudding Time]

:24:

Ahh always find a way to blame the US... Good Socialist..good boy...Your owners have taught you well... Do you sit and speak as well?

The US is at fault for a lot of what's wrong in the world.

So people risk death fleeing from Cuba daily because of.... duh duh duh evil US Embargos...

No, that would be because of the Dictatorship. Really, that wasn't hard to figure out yourself. Oh yeah, you're twisting facts to discredit me, and make me seem stupid. Good Republican, good boy. Your owners have taught you well..

I'm also guessing that the US is to blame for all the death in Iraq during UN sancations..

You mean all the deaths at the hands of Saddam? Saddam being the one put in power by the US.

What page in the socialist handbook does blame America first fall under?

That's a great statement to sum up your intelligence.

 

[Sparkey Duck]

I'm a socialist boy myself, and find that the link between true socialism and communism to be a large one, made closer by those in the media and the likes...

I can't be arsed to get into a debate over it, but it must be known that there are plenty of socialist governments that have worked fine and are still working just fine, those that are based on the more fundamental aspects of economic socialism and less on political theory (i.e misinterpreted Marxism.) On the other hand Communism, in it's true form, tends to be a big no go. Always has and always will, as no one actually follows what 'capital' had to say

Just to clear that one up, as I hate to see the two banded together.

 

[All Else Failed]

I think its would be incredibly naive to say that our problems aren't caused by what we have done in the past/still are doing.

 

[Pudding Time]

I'm a socialist boy myself, and find that the link between true socialism and communism to be a large one, made closer by those in the media and the likes...

I can't be arsed to get into a debate over it, but it must be known that there are plenty of socialist governments that have worked fine and are still working just fine, those that are based on the more fundamental aspects of economic socialism and less on political theory (i.e misinterpreted Marxism.) On the other hand Communism, in it's true form, tends to be a big no go. Always has and always will, as no one actually follows what 'capital' had to say

Just to clear that one up, as I hate to see the two banded together.

I hate people thinking Communism is bad because of the history of Communism. Practically every single Communist Country that has ever existed has been instated by a dictator. A lot of people don't understand that all the bad things they are taught about Communism is actually things about the Dictatorship. Most Americans can't separate the two.

 

[All Else Failed]

Its even more sad that most Americans automatically think all socialism = communism. There are SO MANY different types of socialism. The best in my mind being democratic socialism. The kind you find in most European countries, mainly the scandinavian ones.

 

[Sparkey Duck]

I hate people thinking Communism is bad because of the history of Communism. Practically every single Communist Country that has ever existed has been instated by a dictator. A lot of people don't understand that all the bad things they are taught about Communism is actually things about the Dictatorship. Most Americans can't separate the two.

Yeah, communism is beaten up on a lot. The problem is that you need (after the two revolutions for it to actually start) the country to be run by someone who is not going to abuse power, or enforce the wrong methods. Communism has nearly always failed on that front. In theory it works fine... In theory

 

[Pudding Time]

Its even more sad that most Americans automatically think all socialism = communism. There are SO MANY different types of socialism. The best in my mind being democratic socialism. The kind you find in most European countries, mainly the scandinavian ones.

They might also learn that there are many different Socialized health care systems, not just the one in Canada.

 

[Cotton]

lol I can't even continue to post in this thread and take these two guys seriously.. I'm removing myself from all things politics related before I get banned.

 

[All Else Failed]

lol I can't even continue to post in this thread and take these two guys seriously.. I'm removing myself from all things politics related before I get banned.

Translated: I realize that I am talking out of my ass and I rely too much on regurgitated sayings and beliefs from neo-con figure heads.

 

[Pudding Time]

Yeah, communism is beaten up on a lot. The problem is that you need (after the two revolutions for it to actually start) the country to be run by someone who is not going to abuse power, or enforce the wrong methods. Communism has nearly always failed on that front. In theory it works fine... In theory

True. Communism has been used by many dictators to rape their country of it's wealth/power, and put it all in the hands of the corrupt government.

 

[Tim]

I'll have to add a surrender flag smilie for Cotton...

*runs off to look*

 

[Tim]

How's this one...