Reasons I question if God exists

[IntruderLS1]

Reasons I question my parents existence:

They never gave me a pony, even though I asked for it every year for as long as I can remember.

My dad never led my little league team to the World Series. I asked him a thousand times, and I even did it in agreement with my whole team!

I see other parents who abuse their kids.

I think I'm older than they say I am. I googled my name, and found things going back to the 70's.

They tell me all the fun stuff is bad. Smoking, drinking, coloring on walls, picking on my sisters, etc...

This is such BS. People always get all pissy with me when I show them my proof too. They can't deny evidence like this. They're just cool-aid drinkers.

 

[TheLightedPath]

1. Praying is not an assumption that it will be granted. Who ever said anywhere that praying for anything will get you it. Its a way to talk to god not sitting on santas lap.

2. I don't see how the actions of a few men can question the existence of god. If anything it proves that we all sin no matter how close we think we are to him.

3. Carbon Dating? I fail to see how carbon dating can refute the existence of god unless you used the strictest adherence and took the bible as a historical document then you might be able to refute that the times were wrong in the bible but it would still not refute the existence of god.

4. What is your definition of fun? Because I live a pretty fun life myself and the only definition I can think you may be having is one I don't think of as fun.

 

[Suzie]

1. Praying is not an assumption that it will be granted. Who ever said anywhere that praying for anything will get you it. Its a way to talk to god not sitting on santas lap.

I dont think you have to pray to see if God exists out there or not... watch the news tonight.

 

[SRC]

Where did the decisions come from?

it's called free will .. otherwise we would all be mindless robots .. he created the human mind to be able to think and operate of it's own accord .. without any interference.

 

[All Else Failed]

The existence of free will is highly debatable.



Personally, I think prayer is utterly useless.

 

[SRC]

That's great for you .. no one is trying to make you pray. Everything will work itself out at the end of it all .. and I guess then we shall all see who is right and who is wrong.

I just hope everyone made the right decisions in life.

 

[All Else Failed]

Oh, I know no one is trying to make me pray, its just an opinion. From what I have witnessed and experienced (I am an ex-roman catholic) I've come to the long thought out conclusion that prayer is just a placebo.

 

[Charmer]

The existence of free will is highly debatable.

Personally, I think prayer is utterly useless.

I agree with both statements.

People may think they have free will, but then when God kills a person with a disease that mysteriously came unto them, then that person's free will exists no more. God took it away.

*Again, that is if God exists.

**And again, God is just a belief handed down for centuries and centuries, There is no proof of any human that was/is God and no one created one man and one woman who then created more people, who then had to have incensual relationships to create more people, who then later God had every one of them killed off by his magically flood. Now we are all supposedly related to Noah and his family.

 

[SRC]

God doesn't kill people. He may allow them to die .. but why should he intervene. We are born to die .. we all know it. We are getting allthese diseases and cancers from things we have done to ourselves. God didn't do it to us.

Saying god doesn't exist and that he's just a belief is no better argument than me saying the same thing abotu science.

If you don't believe in something .. you are worth nothing.

And saying we all came from some explosion in outspace or from radiation or from some single cell orginism makes just as much sense .. doens't it?

What it boils down to is what we each believe .. and what happens when we die. We won't know if we made the right choice until the moment we are no longer alive .. personally, I like to have on a life preserver when I jump into fathomless depths.

 

[NightWarrior]

God doesn't kill people. He may allow them to die .. but why should he intervene. We are born to die .. we all know it. We are getting allthese diseases and cancers from things we have done to ourselves. God didn't do it to us.

Saying god doesn't exist and that he's just a belief is no better argument than me saying the same thing abotu science.

If you don't believe in something .. you are worth nothing.

And saying we all came from some explosion in outspace or from radiation or from some single cell orginism makes just as much sense .. doens't it?

What it boils down to is what we each believe .. and what happens when we die. We won't know if we made the right choice until the moment we are no longer alive .. personally, I like to have on a life preserver when I jump into fathomless depths.

I made this thread because mainly I was bored at work yesterday. I do not pray to win the lottery. Although I may pray for the Dolphins on occasion

I would have to disagree with the above statement though. I think Tim spoke about this earlier. God created us. If he is the all-knowing being that he is said to be then he already knows of what would happen after creating us. The explanation given when someone mentions this is that he gave us Free Will. This maybe true, but then God is some sick character who likes to sit back and watch people suffer.

I also agree with you though that people can believe whatever they want to believe. Anything that makes them sleep better at night is just fine by me.

The Big Bang Theory makes much more sense to me, but I am a man of science, not here say.

I don't know why it is heresy to say that we have evolved into what we are today, that we just didn't pop up on the planet. We are an animal just like every other creature on this planet.

 

[GraceAbounds]

If he is the all-knowing being that he is said to be then he already knows of what would happen after creating us. The explanation given when someone mentions this is that he gave us Free Will. This maybe true, but then God is some sick character who likes to sit back and watch people suffer.

No believer or non-believer is able to wrap their finite mind around the mind of a holy infinite Creator. We haven't 'evolved' to that level. But when we die, we will be. (at least that is what I believe)

The Big Bang Theory makes much more sense to me, but I am a man of science, not here say.

I'm a woman of God, but I LOVE science. The Bible is not a science book so I have no problem with saying we have evolved. But I really do not care how God decided to make me or how long it took. In the Bible it says a 1,000 years are like a day and visa versa. I don't totally know what that means, and I don't care as it doesn't change the totality of the Word. I personally think when we were made in God's image, a soul has more to do with that, than the vessel. No other creature has a spirit and a soul and a mind the way a human does. (3 in 1)

I don't know why it is heresy to say that we have evolved into what we are today, that we just didn't pop up on the planet. We are an animal just like every other creature on this planet.

I don't think it is heresy AllVenom. But we are so much more than 'just an animal' IMO. We were meant to live for so much more.


Grace

 

[All Else Failed]

God doesn't kill people. He may allow them to die .. but why should he intervene. We are born to die .. we all know it. We are getting allthese diseases and cancers from things we have done to ourselves. God didn't do it to us.

Saying god doesn't exist and that he's just a belief is no better argument than me saying the same thing abotu science.

If you don't believe in something .. you are worth nothing.

And saying we all came from some explosion in outspace or from radiation or from some single cell orginism makes just as much sense .. doens't it?

What it boils down to is what we each believe .. and what happens when we die. We won't know if we made the right choice until the moment we are no longer alive .. personally, I like to have on a life preserver when I jump into fathomless depths.

Isn't god responsible for diseases existing in the first place? Even if you argue that disease and all other bad things were spawned by Adam & Eve's sin, god is still ultimately responsible for such concepts even being in his own reality.


Are you comparing science to religion? Science isn't a belief system. Maybe I'm reading that wrong.




"If you don't believe in something .. you are worth nothing."

Woahhhhh thats a bit of a leap there. You don't have to believe in a supreme being to have meaning in life. At all.




Actually theories like the big bang make more sense and are more probable that some guy creating us out of dirt and a piece of a rib bone he tore out of someone.


Wait, so do you only believe so you "play it safe" when you die? A divine life preserver?

 

[SRC]

"If you don't believe in something .. you are worth nothing."

Woahhhhh thats a bit of a leap there. You don't have to believe in a supreme being to have meaning in life. At all.

I didn't say you had to believe in a supreme being .. I said if you don't have something that you believe in period. You are quite a lost soul if you have nothing to wrap your mind around.

 

[SRC]

If he is the all-knowing being that he is said to be then he already knows of what would happen after creating us. The explanation given when someone mentions this is that he gave us Free Will. This maybe true, but then God is some sick character who likes to sit back and watch people suffer.

Yes, he did .. he also instructed Adam and Eve on what not to do. He asked them to not do one thing .. he gave them no other restrictions besides the one .. and they did it anyway.

So God allowed punishmnets to fall upon them. he doesn't punish us, but he doesn't stop bad things from happening either. Sometimes we learn individually, sometimes it show others things when bad things rear their heads.

The world is full of good and bad .. if it weren't .. it wouldn't be a free will kinda place .. it would be like a video game some one was really good at playing.

Everyone has to die, so just because you die a bad way as opposed to in your sleep .. doesn't mean God doesn't care. Man has taken control of "his" life .. and God has let him. So it just makes sense that bad things are gonna happen from time to time.

 

[All Else Failed]

I didn't say you had to believe in a supreme being .. I said if you don't have something that you believe in period. You are quite a lost soul if you have nothing to wrap your mind around.

I think everyone has somehting they believe in. When I say "believe in" I mean something that keeps them going etc etc.

 

[All Else Failed]

Yes, he did .. he also instructed Adam and Eve on what not to do. He asked them to not do one thing .. he gave them no other restrictions besides the one .. and they did it anyway.

So God allowed punishmnets to fall upon them. he doesn't punish us, but he doesn't stop bad things from happening either. Sometimes we learn individually, sometimes it show others things when bad things rear their heads.

The world is full of good and bad .. if it weren't .. it wouldn't be a free will kinda place .. it would be like a video game some one was really good at playing.

Everyone has to die, so just because you die a bad way as opposed to in your sleep .. doesn't mean God doesn't care. Man has taken control of "his" life .. and God has let him. So it just makes sense that bad things are gonna happen from time to time.

God knew they would eat from the tree, so why was he so surprised when they did? its like putting out a steak in front of a hungry lion and being stunned that the lion ate it.


Isn't it the belief among most Christians that original sin IS a punishment for mankind's first sin? I would say letting us slip into hell is punishment, regardless if he sends us there or not. Plus, theres those instances in the OT of god raining plagues down on people, but thats if you take the OT seriously.


Again, the existence of free will is highly debatable.

 

[SRC]

God knew they would eat from the tree, so why was he so surprised when they did? its like putting out a steak in front of a hungry lion and being stunned that the lion ate it.

hope perhaps

 

[All Else Failed]

hope perhaps

Hope matters not when he knew what would happen. That would be like hoping that the sun doesn't rise knowing full well it will.


This leads into the impossibility of an omniscient god having emotions.

 

[EVERYBODY KILLA]

if god does too much people become dependent on god, if god doesnt do enough people lose faith. If god has done his job correctly, then people wont know if god has done anything at all.

 

[All Else Failed]

if god does too much people become dependent on god, if god doesnt do enough people lose faith. If god has done his job correctly, then people wont know if god has done anything at all.

What exactly does god do?