Sure To Offend Some: Just My Opinion

[dt3]

I'm going to go out on a limb, Donnie, and say y'all got married before you deployed so that if anything were to happen to you Amber would be taken care of?

Pretty much. But I'm waiting on the edge of my seat to find out what's wrong with that.

 

[Alien Allen]

Pretty much. But I'm waiting on the edge of my seat to find out what's wrong with that.

Should be interesting.

I doubt he can pull it off

 

[Lord Stanley]

Pretty much. But I'm waiting on the edge of my seat to find out what's wrong with that.

sad thing is many people of his grandparents generation did the exact same thing - doubt that he has issues with this

 

[Accountable]

opcorn2:opcorn2:opcorn2:

 

[Lord Stanley]

opcorn2:opcorn2:opcorn2:

you might want to order a lot more popcorn - i doubt Dana will re-visit this

 

[dt3]

i doubt Dana will re-visit this

If he has half a brain he probably won't. But given his comments in this thread so far, I'd say even half a brain is debatable at this point.

 

[USF Sam]

Wow... I am so glad that I don't come down to this area too often.

The idea that a volunteer is less worthy of praise than a draftee.... boggles my mind to the point of headache.

 

[Alien Allen]

Wow... I am so glad that I don't come down to this area too often.

The idea that a volunteer is less worthy of praise than a draftee.... boggles my mind to the point of headache.

Consider the source

 

[Dakota Jim]

Wow... I am so glad that I don't come down to this area too often.

The idea that a volunteer is less worthy of praise than a draftee.... boggles my mind to the point of headache.

Or even vice versa.....kid is wet behind the ears.

 

[dt3]

that's very true and what about these couples that marry hastily because they are being shipped off to war?

At least over here, the military offers life insurance. Each service member pays for it on a monthly basis, just like any other job. If they die, the money goes to the beneficiaries they designate, just like any other job. It's no different than any other person who buys life insurance.


And what the fuck is that supposed to mean?

Come on Dana, I'm still waiting. No need to bitch out now, I don't think your foot can go further down your throat. Get in here and explain to me what exactly is wrong with my marriage.

Still waiting. Take your time, I know it's gonna be difficult to dig yourself out of this hole, so think your reply through very carefully.

 

[JanieDough]

the OP is off the hook on this one....

 

[Dakota Jim]

Still waiting. Take your time, I know it's gonna be difficult to dig yourself out of this hole, so think your reply through very carefully.

Donnie, Don't ya just love these civilians who either aren't man enough or are too chickenshit to serve their country but still have mamoth mouths on 'em? If they have a reason not to be able to serve, one would think they'd keep their mouths shut to those who do or did...

 

[Alien Allen]

Jim

Dana would not be able to serve due to his condition

So don't bring in the man enough or chickenshit bull shit into this

You got enough else to use to rebut and don't need to go that route

 

[USF Sam]

Jim

Dana would not be able to serve due to his condition

So don't bring in the man enough or chickenshit bull shit into this

You got enough else to use to rebut and don't need to go that route

Agreed.

 

[Alien Allen]

Dana would ya please respond to Donnie so he can change that obnoxious signature

 

[Dakota Jim]

Jim

Dana would not be able to serve due to his condition

So don't bring in the man enough or chickenshit bull shit into this

You got enough else to use to rebut and don't need to go that route

Actually this portion of my post applies to anyone who CANNOT serve:

If they have a reason not to be able to serve, one would think they'd keep their mouths shut to those who do or did...

I appreciate that some cannot serve for medical reasons or even other reasons but that does not give them the right to denigrate those who did or are.

Edit: BTW this wasn't Dana's first crack about servicemen....
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[siasl]

I appreciate that some cannot serve for medical reasons or even other reasons but that does not give them the right to denigrate those who did or are.

actually, it does....take away all the pomp and circumstance, and that's precisely the reason that you served, isn't it?

it better be....because that's why you've got my respect :ninja

the question the OP raises is about discernment, imo....wars are no more the same than people are....both are the result of motivations...and motivations are not automatically "good"

there is nothing in your service to this country that guarantees they will be....or that anybody will use their freedom to discern anything beyond one that is selfish (desperately needing structure is pretty selfish, if you ask me -but that doesn't make it "bad", either)....social conciousness and respect are not insured by any victory on the battlefield: they are the result of living in the community where "everyday life" is the norm.

and it's there where the disparity driving this thread is born, lives, and dies.....thing is, it ain't dying, and this thread is just more proof of that.....it's becoming as PC to automatically honor our soldiers as it is to automatically claim that gays have every right to be married in a church.

honoring the OP for serving is far different from respecting his need for direction in his life: this particular direction could get him killed, and his death would be the result of selfish motivations....not some "nobler" sense of social conciousness that you are defending.

when you start honoring everybody in a group or everything surrounding an action because of some expectation that it's automatically deserved (kinda like "national security", that), you just contribute to the death of freedom in this country, imo....providing a blind service to motivations that don't necessarily serve your selfish interests, nor your larger view of social conciousness and respect.

if freedom doens't remain the responsibility of the individual -and if that isn't the source of our respect for it- then it ain't really freedom anymore, is it?

 

[Alien Allen]

actually, it does....take away all the pomp and circumstance, and that's precisely the reason that you served, isn't it?

it better be....because that's why you've got my respect :ninja

the question the OP raises is about discernment, imo....wars are no more the same than people are....both are the result of motivations...and motivations are not automatically "good"

there is nothing in your service to this country that guarantees they will be....or that anybody will use their freedom to discern anything beyond one that is selfish (desperately needing structure is pretty selfish, if you ask me -but that doesn't make it "bad", either)....social conciousness and respect are not insured by any victory on the battlefield: they are the result of living in the community where "everyday life" is the norm.

and it's there where the disparity driving this thread is born, lives, and dies.....thing is, it ain't dying, and this thread is just more proof of that.....it's becoming as PC to automatically honor our soldiers as it is to automatically claim that gays have every right to be married in a church.

honoring the OP for serving is far different from respecting his need for direction in his life: this particular direction could get him killed, and his death would be the result of selfish motivations....not some "nobler" sense of social conciousness that you are defending.

when you start honoring everybody in a group or everything surrounding an action because of some expectation that it's automatically deserved (kinda like "national security", that), you just contribute to the death of freedom in this country, imo....providing a blind service to motivations that don't necessarily serve your selfish interests, nor your larger view of social conciousness and respect.

if freedom doens't remain the responsibility of the individual -and if that isn't the source of our respect for it- then it ain't really freedom anymore, is it?

Bored since your other place is down eh

Morning.

And interesting response you gave here

I think you might right about it now being PC for those to honor the troops. Me thinks that is another casualty of Nam.

 

[Margene]

if freedom doens't remain the responsibility of the individual -and if that isn't the source of our respect for it- then it ain't really freedom anymore, is it?

Of course it is my responsiblity, but that is the source of my respect for those who serve in the armed forces. I cannot take up arms and serve to protect our country. I do not confuse the meaning behind any war in which they fight with whether I owe them respect or not either. That is the nature of the military, they do not start wars, that lies with politicians. Servicemen and women do what they are told and are living up to their agreement with the service under which they signed up. Though it may question the mission themselves, and some have, they still do their job and I respect that they enlist knowing their lives could very possibly be on the line.

I respect that.

 

[MoonOwl]

Of course it is my responsiblity, but that is the source of my respect for those who serve in the armed forces. I cannot take up arms and serve to protect our country. I do not confuse the meaning behind any war in which they fight with whether I owe them respect or not either. That is the nature of the military, they do not start wars, that lies with politicians. Servicemen and women do what they are told and are living up to their agreement with the service under which they signed up. Though it may question the mission themselves, and some have, they still do their job and I respect that they enlist knowing their lives could very possibly be on the line.

I respect that.

Me too....

I can remember when I was small and seeing the news coverage of Vietnam. I remember seeing people spitting on our returning Troops. I thought that was sad. If you want to spit on someone, go spit on the politicians that sent them to war. That is who you spit on. Period.