I once got attacked by someone on my doorstep. Trust me after I finished with him he was too shit scared to come anywhere near my house! Oh, another time I caught someone trying to break in. I belted him round the face with a large bike chain and ripped his face to fuck!
Would you kill someone to defend your property?
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I once got attacked by someone on my doorstep. Trust me after I finished with him he was too shit scared to come anywhere near my house! Oh, another time I caught someone trying to break in. I belted him round the face with a large bike chain and ripped his face to fuck!
Right, but say he gets five or six of his friends to get in on it next time. Maybe you were lucky.
Well the first guy would have had to have help from his friends next time because he had trouble walking after I finished with him. I still think its a very lame excuse though to kill someone because they might come back.
I was just trying to press your buttons. I do have a strong opinion about this. But it'll have to wait.
but seriously, you shouldn't risk your life or the lives of others to save something as arbitrary as something like a TV.
what about your favorite porno?
Yep...end of story
You young whippersnappers, get off my lawn! Bang, chkchk, bang! :ninja
have you ever heard of over kill, because that is exactly what I would do. Unless it is my car. Hell I would like for someone to steal it please. I have insurance. Take it to Mexico.
LOL BuckingFackward. That's a good one.:24:
It is true though. I already have one car there. That one was actually stolen though. I figured it might need company.
I was just trying to press your buttons. I do have a strong opinion about this. But it'll have to wait.
Alright. I said I would post when I had time. So here it is. Also, this is not what I believe to generally be right as a rule. I am answering the question "Would you kill someone to defend your property." That said, I am not speaking legally either.
What I was saying earlier to Peter was only a tangential part of my full response. Many people have suggested that a human life is more valuable than any object or material property. My response will largely stand in opposition to that viewpoint, as it pertains to me.
There have been distinctions made between harm towards your person and harm towards your property, whereby lethal defense is noble in one case and not in the other. In my estimation these two are one in the same. I'll try my best to explain with two Scenarios.
Scenario 1. A man breaks into my house and I catch him. He's armed with a pistol and intends to shoot me. Now, regardless of what happens, I face personal damage by any definition. I may never be able to ride my bicycle, race cars, or shoot hoops ever again. In this scenario, I believe most of you will agree that I would be justified in defending myself. Fine.
Scenario 2. A man breaks into my house with the sole intention to steal my car. Like the first man, he will still be depriving me of something that is rightfully mine.
The common misconception is that it is something that can be replaced. Rest assured this is not the case. It's true that another car can be bought, but there is more that factors into a vehicle, or any other property than just spending money. The cash used to buy the first car didn't materialize from thin air. It was paid for for by the time I spent at a job that I've fought hard for. That time lost can never be repaid. There is no restitution in Justice for time lost, because the nature of Justice is reactive, not proactive. Even if justice through the proper authorities is served, I will not be compensated for that part of my life lost.
My analysis of Scenario 2 does not even weigh in the psychological damage caused by having your belongings stripped from you. When I was 15 I was on my way to a bus stop and I was cornered while walking through a parking garage by two Koreans and a black guy. They only hit me twice. But for days I felt violated, picturing their hands in my mind rifling through my pockets to strip me of $32, my school bag, and all my books. I had to walk home. They didn't even leave me enough for my bus fare. The punches hurt for hours, but having things taken away from me hurt for much longer.
I see no difference between defending myself and defending my valuables. Taking away my property is depriving me of a standard of living I have worked hard and justly to maintain. I will fight to the death if necessary to protect that standard, which I have invested so much time and effort into. The value of any man's life who wished to deprive me of my standard of living is zero in my eyes.
well put. Rep delivered
Well lets see. Someone breaks into your house. You don't know what their mindset is. you don't know if they're armed, and you don't know what they are there to do. Home robbery, murder, home invasion for money, etc.
My goal is to protect my livelyhood... I work DAMN hard for my house and I'll be a monkeys butt fucking uncle if I let someone come in and vandalize my property. MY property is an extension of ME. I may not be in physical pain from something being ripped off out of my house, but financially and emotionally I will be. And believe me, I'm already in a bind financially and emotionally as it is.
It's completely justified to protect oneself from the unknown when an intruder comes in your home... by any means necessary.
"beating the shit out of them" just doesn't fly for me. They spend a few years in jail and are let out only to do it all over again. Career criminals are only looking to make a fast buck off what you worked your ass off for.
If someone is going to try and come in to take things that belong to me whether it's a radio or my life in the process, they better damn well be sure they can get away with it. Because if I catch them I'll kill em.
No. It's just something I own. Why would someone deserve to die just because they stole/destroyed and object of mine?
So if someone flat out stole your car to make a profit, and you had the chance to stop them in the process, you'd rather let them get away, strip your car and fuck you on your insurance?
I'd seriously rather get them in prison, than actually kill them, for that.
I don't feel I can answer this with any measure of objectivity, and also, that my answer may be a little more than bitter.
I am a South African, which means that unless I want to spend my life in prison (away from my child and husband ~ the very people I live for), I don't actually have the choice of killing an intruder.
You see, under South African law, even if someone has a gun to your head... if you shoot them, charges WILL be laid and you WILL go to prison.
Fantastic for a country where they MURDER you for nothing more than a cellphone, or as little as the equivalent of $1. A country where 'petty' criminals get released for no other reason than over crowding in prisons. A country where there is more emphasis placed on the "human rights" of a criminal, rapist, murderer, than is placed on the human rights of their victims. We don't speak about "if" we will be affected by crime... we speak of "when" we will be affected.
I am a South African, which means that unless I want to spend my life in prison (away from my child and husband ~ the very people I live for), I don't actually have the choice of killing an intruder.
You see, under South African law, even if someone has a gun to your head... if you shoot them, charges WILL be laid and you WILL go to prison.
Fantastic for a country where they MURDER you for nothing more than a cellphone, or as little as the equivalent of $1. A country where 'petty' criminals get released for no other reason than over crowding in prisons. A country where there is more emphasis placed on the "human rights" of a criminal, rapist, murderer, than is placed on the human rights of their victims. We don't speak about "if" we will be affected by crime... we speak of "when" we will be affected.
So what should a court be able to pass as punishment for someone found guilty of breaking into a house then? Lock them up for the rest of their life or give them the death penalty? After all they will only go out and rob people again when the're released, according to you.:smiley24:
Because in their quest to invade your space and steal your property you better believe if you are in their way they wouldn't think twice about killing you or damaging you and your family severely?<---------Maybe?