Woman Escorted Off Bus For Reading Bible Aloud

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Woman Escorted Off Bus For Reading Bible Aloud

FORT WORTH (CBS 11 News) ― A passenger on a Fort Worth bus says the T. Bus Service discriminated against her religion.

Christine Lutz says she was reading her Bible to her children when the bus driver asked her to stop or get off the bus.

Lutz, a Seventh Day Adventist, and her children were on their way to church.

"She then said, 'Well I don't think this is the place or the time to do so.' And I said, 'Oh, but it's the perfect time and the perfect place since it is our Sabbath and it is the time with the Lord and therefore I'm going to continue.' And I continued," she explained.

Then, a TRE supervisor came on board. Lutz also told him that she would not stop reading. She and her family were escorted off the bus.

"This was definitely a clear cut case of persecution," she said.

Or was it a clear cut case of policy?

"Anyone who is loud will be asked to be quiet," said representative Joan Hunter. "That is a standard policy across country in the transit industry."

It doesn't matter what is said, the T has a policy of no loud or abusive behavior.

"It's only if the other passengers will complain, or it's obviously so loud it's distracting the operator, that we will ask them to stop," Hunter explained.
 
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That burns me up. I bet if someone were reading anything else outloud there wouldn't have been a thing said about it.
 
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I personally think she was having little or no regard for her fellow passengers and wanted to do her own thing regardless. A bus is a pretty confined area shared with many other passengers besides herself of different persuasions and different frame of minds at the time...who may very well not have wanted to be distracted or disturbed by the reading of the bible aloud or for that matter anything else...or may have wanted to read or listen to whatever else they so chose to privately.

From what she was doing and from her reaction and responses it would suggest that she wanted to impose herself and beliefs in a publicly confined area in a selfish manner despite anyone else's wishes. She could have done that in lots of other places within reason.......unless she lives in the bus.
 
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COOL_BREEZE2 said:
I personally think she was having little or no regard for her fellow passengers and wanted to do her own thing regardless.
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Unless she was yelling as she read to her kids I don't see how you could come to this conclusion.

A bus is a pretty confined area shared with many other passengers besides herself of different persuasions and different frame of minds at the time...who may very well not have wanted to be distracted or disturbed by the reading of the bible aloud or for that matter anything else...or may have wanted to read or listen to whatever else they so chose to privately.
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There is plenty of crap that I do not want to listen to when I am out in public, but I realize that I am out in public and that people are free to be who they want to be and do what they want to do within the confines of the law. So unless this lady was breaking an actual law or the buses rules and regs by yelling or what not - she was being discriminated against.

From what she was doing and from her reaction and responses it would suggest that she wanted to impose herself and beliefs in a publicly confined area in a selfish manner despite anyone else's wishes.
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I disagree. It sounds to me like she wanted to read to her children while she rode on the bus, simple as that.

She could have done that in lots of other places within reason.......unless she lives in the bus.
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Reading is a good way to pass the time. And when out in public, if you do not agree with half the crap that goes on out in public (which this lady probably does not), what better way to distract your children from it than with a positive message/story from their Bible?

==== Bottom line - unless this lady was yelling she was being discriminated against. If she was truly being unruly then I can understand the bus companies position. But from the article they are very vague about her behavior specifically.
 
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ive heard people sceaming at their kids on buses ,now that i find offensive.

if she was reading harry potter i doubt that the reaction would have been like this.the bible like harry potter has some great moments,so what is the problem?
 
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She sounds like a nut case. When they approached her she just kept reading, and ignored them. They also said "Anyone who is loud will be asked to be quiet", which leads me to believe she wasn't just reading out loud at normal volume.

Seems to me that she got what she deserved.
 
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heheh,

a) the public area is an area used by the public.
b) public transportation is public area.
c) public areas are where all ideologies are accepted.

so..

i think she was reading out loud more than necessary.
not to mention... is it just their sabbath that it is time spent with their lord, or is it every day?
or, do the children know not how to read yet?

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questions abound, and investigation into this matter is not much of my concern, or so it appears to me as of this current moment. but do not let that stop any of you who feel differently, or are of different convictions.
 
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GraceAbounds said:
Unless she was yelling as she read to her kids I don't see how you could come to this conclusion.
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Came to the conclusion because the report says she was reading "aloud"....in a public bus. From my understanding of a bus it is a pretty confined area.


There is plenty of crap that I do not want to listen to when I am out in public, but I realize that I am out in public and that people are free to be who they want to be and do what they want to do within the confines of the law. So unless this lady was breaking an actual law or the buses rules and regs by yelling or what not - she was being discriminated against.
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Comes down to having consideration for others.

I disagree. It sounds to me like she wanted to read to her children while she rode on the bus, simple as that.
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We will have to agree to disagree on this.

Reading is a good way to pass the time. And when out in public, if you do not agree with half the crap that goes on out in public (which this lady probably does not), what better way to distract your children from it than with a positive message/story from their Bible?
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Agreed, reading is a good way to pass the time. However reading aloud or doing other things aloud in public without having regard to those in close proximity is not good form. Comes back to having consideration to others. And because others may do it doesn't make her doing it right.

==== Bottom line - unless this lady was yelling she was being discriminated against. If she was truly being unruly then I can understand the bus companies position. But from the article they are very vague about her behavior specifically.
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The article says the lady was reading "aloud" or "loud"......the bible...in a publicly confined area...namely a bus. Without regard to her fellow passengers....and when asked to consider, chose to ignore and continue. Methinks she was being inconsiderate and could have done what she wanted to do in private or under common circumstances of sharing, of which surely she would have had access to. My guess is that she also had ulterior motives.
 
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