Will God be obsolete in 100 years?

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Peter Parka

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I actually looked into a lot of religions and found them full of bullshit too. Science dosen't have all the answers, it dosen't tell me what I want to hear, that is life. What it does tell me though is undisputable facts and logical theories. I'd like to know that I'm going to win the national lottery tommorow, I have as much chance as anyone, logic though tells me its a very improbable chance. Same goes with believing in a god. I wouldn't rule it out but the evidence points to it being less likely than my chances tomorrow.
 
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I actually looked into a lot of religions and found them full of bullshit too. Science dosen't have all the answers, it dosen't tell me what I want to hear, that is life. What it does tell me though is undisputable facts and logical theories. I'd like to know that I'm going to win the national lottery tommorow, I have as much chance as anyone, logic though tells me its a very improbable chance. Same goes with believing in a god. I wouldn't rule it out but the evidence points to it being less likely than my chances tomorrow.


I see your point and agree with you on alot of what you are saying here. For me, I have been involved with science in my career for many years so I have seen it up close. I feel about the same towards science as I do religion. It may look good on paper and make sense but science has been wrong before. It isn't all that it is cracked up to be.
 

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.......I feel about the same towards science as I do religion. It may look good on paper and make sense but science has been wrong before. It isn't all that it is cracked up to be.

forgive me,..I'm not awake yet (bad choice of words )...but are you implying that religion has never been wrong?...


Just a question..
 

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forgive me,..I'm not awake yet (bad choice of words )...but are you implying that religion has never been wrong?...


Just a question..

No, I am not implying that at all. hahaha! Thanks for the laugh but just to clarify Religion ansd Science both have been wrong.
 

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forgive me,..I'm not awake yet (bad choice of words )...but are you implying that religion has never been wrong?...


Just a question..

If that is the case...then that just seems like more of a reason to prefer science, as it would appear they admit when they are wrong , take steps to correct it and still strive forward to obtain fact and truth ...not ooooh and aaaaah believing thousand year old stories that can't be incorrect or misinterpreted even though there isn't any proof to back it up .....

...coffees ready
 

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Same goes with believing in a god. I wouldn't rule it out but the evidence points to it being less likely than my chances tomorrow.

I think believing in the possibility of a generalized God would be a better bet than a specific God, with specific demands.
 

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I think it's perceived as a dangerous slippery slope for the believer to question the bible.

I've found that the "better" churches acknowledge that God gave people brains, and people should question the Bible.

The better minsters/preachers IMO are those who can enable you to relate that story written a very long time ago and have you apply that story in your life today.

When I leave a church that actually makes me think, I know I've found a good church.
 

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I think it's perceived as a dangerous slippery slope for the believer to question the bible. Yanno, accept the bible as a work of fiction, by the next morning you'll be a baby eating atheist :p

I believe that is true in traditional churches.

I've found that the "better" churches acknowledge that God gave people brains, and people should question the Bible.

The better minsters/preachers IMO are those who can enable you to relate that story written a very long time ago and have you apply that story in your life today.

When I leave a church that actually makes me think, I know I've found a good church.

That would be interesting to observe. It's been 15 years since I've been to church (Lutheran, as my wife calls it Catholic light ;)) but at that time there were stories, but it was all about God, his effect on the human race, his rewards and punishments.
 

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One of the most transformative books that gave me a religious experience had little if anything to do with religion. It was The Mind and the Brain: Neuroplasticity and the Power of Mental Force, by: Jeffrey M. Schwartz, M.D. and Sharon Begley. Dr. Schwartz's methods have allowed OCD patients to rewire their own brains using directed therapy, and his research suggests that there is a will beyond the wiring doing it. If that's true, it'll turn a great deal of psychiatry and neuroscience on its head. It was already a sacred cow that the human brain couldn't rewire itself, and Dr. Schwartz has at least proven that to be false.

So what's that got to do with this discussion? Simple. In every philosophy, including every religion and science, there are these sacred cows. Thankfully science tends to shed them more quickly in the historical sense, but it has them. Religion will ultimately do the same, but I think it will take a bit longer than a hundred more years for it to take place.

But just think about this -- Acupuncture was once looked at as voodoo science at best, now it's being used in anesthesia for those that cannot be put under by other means. It's not hard to see how it works -- what the new age hippy dippies call the "aura" is little more than the electromagnetic field of the body, which can be manipulated. So what if this will that's doing the rewiring in Dr. Schwartz's patients is basically what religion calls the soul, but not exactly the way that religion - ANY religion - thinks of it?

What I'm ultimately getting at is: What if the very nature of the universe is simply information, 1s and 0s, what Dr. Schwartz is calling will is simply another force like gravity, electromagnetism, strong and weak forces, and that collective will, sentient or not, throughout the universe is the expression of God? If you think about it that would turn religion and science as they are currently completely around.
 

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In every philosophy, including every religion and science, there are these sacred cows.

I agree, good post. This is the reason I get annoyed with focusing on such a narrow range of possibilities in religion/life/meaning...the discussions always go back to the same irreconcilable difference but there is so much more. Knowledge turns itself over in time, it is a living thing. Encapsulating oneself is submitting to ignorance.
 

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I agree, good post. This is the reason I get annoyed with focusing on such a narrow range of possibilities in religion/life/meaning...the discussions always go back to the same irreconcilable difference but there is so much more. Knowledge turns itself over in time, it is a living thing. Encapsulating oneself is submitting to ignorance.

Nah, nothing wrong with following a particular path of belief, that is, if someone really believes in it.
 

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Every time this thread pops up on my feed I read this as "Will God be obese in 100 years?". Had to say it. Makes me lol.
 

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Nah, nothing wrong with following a particular path of belief, that is, if someone really believes in it.

By choosing one particular path of belief, you then believe that all other paths are wrong, at least that has been my experience with Christianity. Personally, I find something wrong with that.
 

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By choosing one particular path of belief, you then believe that all other paths are wrong, at least that has been my experience with Christianity. Personally, I find something wrong with that.

Depends on how you view it. I have looked at many beliefs because I was looking for myself. If a person is looking for something to "impose" on others then that is a losing proposition no matter the belief or path. This goes for Atheism as well. It isn't what a person believes so much as how they choose to view it.

And you are wrong. If a person chooses one particular path or belief it doesn't mean they believe all other paths are wrong. They are just wrong for that person.
 
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