Why I Hate Religion, But Love Jesus || Spoken Word

[Francis]

I believe in a God but I have a problem with Religion.. Simply put Religion, and I've been to multiple churches, all discuss things I feel are outside their realm. When Religion speak about politics, other churches being evil and how money is the root of all issues while they pass the collection plate I have a problem.. Just my Opinion of what I witnessed..

In any case, this Video was interesting to watch..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IAhDGYlpqY

 

[Dana]

See when I think of Jesus, I automatically think religion. You can shun religion but you're still devoting yourself to Jesus, which is what religion like Christianity does. Yes you can hate what religion stands for and the acts of blasphemy and hypocrisy it creates but the only true way to say you aren't religious is to be your own person and whorship yourself, friends, and family. Whether Jesus shunned religion or not he will be forever tied to it. The only thing universal is God.

 

[Kyle B]

All religions fall victim to human nature. Even if followers believe that their religion is divinely created, it still has human influence. That's where you're going to get the politics and such mixed in. Like it or not, you can't expect all people of a particular religion to act 100% to their creed because they're humans with flaws.

 

[doombug]

All religions fall victim to human nature. Even if followers believe that their religion is divinely created, it still has human influence. That's where you're going to get the politics and such mixed in. Like it or not, you can't expect all people of a particular religion to act 100% to their creed because they're humans with flaws.

I agree. That goes for anything humans try to do. Governments and even science is influenced by human flaws in a negative way.

 

[BornReady]

"I hate religion but love Jesus" when translated often means my Christianity is better than all other sects of Christianity and all other religions. I call that religious bigotry. That's just a general comment, not directed at the OP.

I think religion is good. Religion organizes people. There are a lot of well meaning people out there who don't do much in the way of helping others. A church brings the people together and turns the good intentions into good actions. This doesn't mean we can't do good works without the church. But I think a church makes it easier.

 

[Joe the meek]

A church brings the people together and turns the good intentions into good actions.

I believe that is exactly what people should be looking for in a church.

The real bitch is if you love Jesus, you should not only help others, but spread the word of His father.

 

[Panacea]

I just left a town of mountain dwelling fundamentalist Pentecostal North Carolinians. I was there for a funeral. Their dichotomy is incredibly striking. While they're (namely the members of my aunt's church) the most helpful, caring, and sweet individuals I have ever met in my life, they'll turn on you in a heart beat if you don't conform.

I got hugged and praised repeatedly for my demeanor and helpfulness, but I knew if word got out I wasn't saved, I would be hassled and insulted. Kind of felt weird to know I was one disclosure away from a total shift in reception.

My own christian father was harassed rudely for not being saved.

Now what does the good part of this come from? It seems the same thing that makes them great people makes them intolerant people. Is that the faith or the religion?

 

[Dana]

I just left a town of mountain dwelling fundamentalist Pentecostal North Carolinians. I was there for a funeral. Their dichotomy is incredibly striking. While they're (namely the members of my aunt's church) the most helpful, caring, and sweet individuals I have ever met in my life, they'll turn on you in a heart beat if you don't conform.

I got hugged and praised repeatedly for my demeanor and helpfulness, but I knew if word got out I wasn't saved, I would be hassled and insulted. Kind of felt weird to know I was one disclosure away from a total shift in reception.

My own christian father was harassed rudely for not being saved.

Now what does the good part of this come from? It seems the same thing that makes them great people makes them intolerant people. Is that the faith or the religion?

Saved??

 

[Panacea]

Saved??

Ya, baptized and accept Jesus as your personal savior and all that

 

[BornReady]

It seems the same thing that makes them great people makes them intolerant people. Is that the faith or the religion?

I know where you're coming from. People of faith can be the most judgmental people you will ever meet. I think the solution is in realizing that we're all different. One person's faith may not fit another. And no one should try to force it on them. The ancient Hebrews were fond of saying the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac (Abraham's son) and the God of Jacob (Isaac's son). To me, this means each generation must find God for them selves. My dad is a Christian and that's fine. But I am not. I can not and should not take on his beliefs. They belong to him. I must find my own. And I have. Secular humanism fits me.

 

[Panacea]

I know where you're coming from. People of faith can be the most judgmental people you will ever meet. I think the solution is in realizing that we're all different. One person's faith may not fit another. And no one should try to force it on them. The ancient Hebrews were fond of saying the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac (Abraham's son) and the God of Jacob (Isaac's son). To me, this means each generation must find God for them selves. My dad is a Christian and that's fine. But I am not. I can not and should not take on his beliefs. They belong to him. I must find my own. And I have. Secular humanism fits me.

There is just no room in their particular religion for differing views, because their eternal soul depends on making sure they do everything they can to convert people. Their failure means they are not walking the path of righteousness. THAT is a scary thought!

 

[Francis]

Now what does the good part of this come from? It seems the same thing that makes them great people makes them intolerant people. Is that the faith or the religion?

If you want my opinion it's the Religion..

Faith is something you can believe in without pushing it onto others..

You have faith in yourself, others and faith life will be good to you.

Religion pushes you to treat those that are not part of their "Cult" as a curse, a demon and a sinner unless you repent and give up your treacherous ways and hand over many many dollars to prove your innocence.. Because when it all comes down to it, it will basically come back to "giving of yourself" as far as all religions are concerned..

 

[doombug]

I have never been intimidated by any religious person. There are too many important things to worry about than getting preached at. Heck, I don't even let a homeless guy holding a sign that says "the end is near" bother me.

 

[Panacea]

If you want my opinion it's the Religion..

Faith is something you can believe in without pushing it onto others..

You have faith in yourself, others and faith life will be good to you.

Religion pushes you to treat those that are not part of their "Cult" as a curse, a demon and a sinner unless you repent and give up your treacherous ways and hand over many many dollars to prove your innocence.. Because when it all comes down to it, it will basically come back to "giving of yourself" as far as all religions are concerned..

I agree with you, and I can't imagine how it would be to feel like you'd burn for eternity if you didn't convince people to conform to your beliefs. With the exception of those who go nearly crazy on the mission and block out their conscience, it must be a conflicting and stressful reality.

 

[HK]

I agree with you, and I can't imagine how it would be to feel like you'd burn for eternity if you didn't convince people to conform to your beliefs. With the exception of those who go nearly crazy on the mission and block out their conscience, it must be a conflicting and stressful reality.

Sometimes I wonder if people like having something so huge to devote themselves to, because it takes the pressure off the more mundane stresses of everyday life.

I mean, what's an overdue gas bill compared to an eternity in a fiery hell? Really puts everything in perspective.

 

[doombug]

Sometimes I wonder if people like having something so huge to devote themselves to, because it takes the pressure off the more mundane stresses of everyday life.

I mean, what's an overdue gas bill compared to an eternity in a fiery hell? Really puts everything in perspective.

I think people (including religious people) do this because it is alot easier to look at others "faults" than it is to look in the mirror. It seems that many people(non-religious as well) would rather spend their time picking out other people's short comings than to deal with their own.

 

[Panacea]

Sometimes I wonder if people like having something so huge to devote themselves to, because it takes the pressure off the more mundane stresses of everyday life.

I mean, what's an overdue gas bill compared to an eternity in a fiery hell? Really puts everything in perspective.

For sure, it's an interesting point. It's a hobby, and it's water cooler talk, as well. It's all intended to "get ya through", I think.

 

[doombug]

If you want my opinion it's the Religion..

Faith is something you can believe in without pushing it onto others..

I have ran up against about every religion out there and never felt like anyone was trying to "push" anything. I don't know. I did visit the Amish once maybe I narrowly escaped being forced to churn butter. Those evil bastards!! :24:

 

[Tim]

[video=youtube_share;YGRVsSS5vrc]http://youtu.be/YGRVsSS5vrc[/video]

 

[Tim]

Ya, baptized and accept Jesus as your personal savior and all that

Just to clarify this point...

To be "Saved" means to accept Jesus into your heart and admit that he died for your sins.

Baptism is only a public sign that you have done this and has nothing to do with your salvation. In other words, you do not need to be baptized.