I'm tired of having this same stupid debate with you. No matter how many times you repeat the lie, voluntary associations do not equal slavery. Period. End of discussion. Thats only the case in your fucked up ridiculous world.
The intelligence you exude is staggering. "I am right and you are wrong" is pretty much all you can say to anything, isn't it? Oh, that and a bunch of childish insults.
By definition, slavery is an involuntary association between individuals.
But that's the whole point isn't it? Given the choice, you think most people would choose to work FOR someone, or WITH someone? Do you think they'd be better workers with a vested interest (WITH) or treated like a slave (FOR)?
I FREELY give up my time while I'm at work in exchange for something I value more, namely a paycheck. I can walk in and tell my boss to go fuck himself and he can't send the slave catchers after me to bring me back at gunpoint.
Bully for you. If you're happy with that arrangement then fine. Many of us see the flaws in that system. You can go tell your boss to fuck off, please do, and then see how quickly you end up becoming a slave to another boss.
What you don't see here is that in a world where there are more people than jobs, like this one, the individual lacks the choice, the power is all in the hands of the bosses who, for the largest portion of your waking life, dictate what you do, how you do it, when you do it.
I mean yeah, its net worth is only like $2 million. Thats nothing, no profit there. Most of that non-existent profit is built off of giving $12,000 recycled speeches to ignorant left wing loonies and selling works of IP that are mostly just more recycled speeches and that are protected by copyright, the idea of which he hatest. Thats just terribly hard work right there let me tell you :24:
See this is exactly the point you seem to totally not understand - THERE HAS BEEN NO EXPLOITATION. NO SUBJUGATION. NO REMOVAL OF LIBERTY. I don't know how to spell that out any simpler for you.
You most certainly can opt out of the system anytime you want. All it takes is a small plot of land and you can go back to subsistence farming. That shouldn't be anything for such a "hard worker" as the illustrious Mr. Chumpsky :24:
Yes of course you can opt out of the system, and then not be in any position to change it. That'd be a great move!!!!
Yeah, my narrow mind stems from operating in that place we call reality instead of whacko socialist fantasy world. You're more than welcome to have as many stupid unrealistic ideas as you want, as long as you leave me out of it. You don't seem content to do that though, you'd rather force me in at gunpoint.
Reality? Let's look at the reality of your beliefs:
You believe in the right to Life, Liberty and Property. Ok firstly Life is a given. Secondly Property, yup, everyone should have the right to own stuff. Also a given. Thirdly, let's look at Liberty.
In your minimal govt world, firstly you STILL have a govt, which is an encroachment on Liberty. You still have a hierarchical structure in society, which is an encroachment on liberty. You still have the majority of money and therefore power in the hands of the few. That is also an encroachment on liberty.
That, my friend, is what you might call a fail. Your idea of liberty is so childishly simplistic it's absolutely laughable.
No one is forcing anyone, by the way.
Chumpsky is a fuckwit who wouldn't know reality if it bit him in the ass. Its no surprise you put so much stock in what he has to say. Keep sucking down the swill my friend, the power hungry left always needs ignorant soldiers to do their dirty work for them. Can't get their hands dirty with executions and all that you know.
Oh is that right?
Please watch the next video below. ALL he is concerned with is reality. He tells the truth, that's why people like you, and the establishment, hate him. He reasons like a true scholar, generates hypotheses and analyses through them with logic and reason. His contribution to the world of linguistics shows that he's an intellectual heavyweight. Try and reason your "reality" and your idea of a good model for society using traditional methods of analytics, logic and reason and you'll fall flat on your face because your system is a bad joke used as an excuse to pay less tax and fuck over the poor and vulnerable. You've been sold a lie, and you've bought into it hook, line and sinker.
Power hungry left? And the right isn't?!!!! Patriot act? War on Terror? Globalisation? Corporation driven media? The greed on the right is not only for money you know.
I'm just using the same asinine arguments you are. You argue people buy into the wage system because they just don't know any better, I argue people buy into Chomsky for the same reason. They just don't realize he's full of shit. And no matter how you spin it, dear Chumpsky doesn't know WTF he's talking about.
People listen to Chomsky because they want to hear the truth. You ignore him, which is a tragedy. Honestly, the US really doesn't realise what they have there - which is one of the greatest thinkers of our time. Why don't you actually watch the videos and try and counter his arguments? Especially the one I'll post next. Go on, be my guest. We both know you can't
Now you and Chumpsky go play with the poor misunderstood Khmer Rouge and see if you can kill another million or so people.
You keep on believing in a system of state sponsored terror, my friend.
ROFL ROFL ROFL For a man that hates corporations and capitalism he sure likes investing in them
Who says he likes doing it? You putting words in his mouth?
